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I've been using GPT-5.6 Luna for everything at this point. It is more than enough to do all the work I need to do. You have to lead it by the nose, but if you k
by all2 21d ago
I've been using GPT-5.6 Luna for everything at this point. It is more than enough to do all the work I need to do. You have to lead it by the nose, but if you know where you're going it works really, really well.
- x3n0ph3n3 21d agoI feel the same way with Cursor Composer 2.5.
- CuriouslyC 21d agoPro tip: use 5.6 sol, and tell IT to lead luna by the nose with subagents.
- jwrallie 21d agoIt seems there are two distinct groups, one which is doing relatively well with Luna, Deepseek Flash and similar models while other seem to be satisfied only with the state of the art.
- firegodjr 21d agoHaving worked with both, it seems like a control thing to me. Either you're cool with Fable spitting out tons of code you'll never read, or you're cool with Luna doing targeted work while you manage the main work thread. (I'm in the second boat so long as I'm responsible for the code I PR)
- copperx 21d agoI'm ok with not-Fable until I need anything design-related: a nice HTML page, LaTeX typesetting, UI design. Sol is especially incapable of doing anything sensible. Is there any alternative model with design sensibilities?
- nunodonato 21d agoKimi K3 is amazing
- l33tman 21d agoDid you add some skill for this? I've been using a frontend design skill with Sol and it's reasonable (for my purposes). I don't remember where I got that skill.md though, it probably was from OAI's own blog about this a few months ago.
- matadormix 21d agofable is good at it but I find it uses the same slop in different variants every time. Even the words it uses for the different alternatives it proposes are the same (cartography, atlas, bench, signal, etc). At least you develop a good nose for slop ;) it becomes a struggle to steer it off the same path every time.
- packetlost 21d agoI'm happily in both depending on what it is. Even Sol / Fable cannot do some truly novel stuff and if you rely on it too heavily you get detached from the underlying systems to the point that it's both uncomfortable and detrimental.
- coder-3 21d agoDepends on how in-the-loop you want to be. I personally delegate all the writing of the code to agents, but I maintain a clear mental model of the architecture, which I come up with by iterating and prototyping with agents. I can use Luna for all of this, although I switch depending on the task. It's nice to be able to throw a 1,000 word rough spec at Fable and get a personal tool that works perfectly though. I expect that as the models get better, I'll continue to be in the loop, but operate at increasingly higher levels of abstraction.
- andai 21d agoYeah, it's about, do you guide it, or does it guide you.
- vidarh 20d agoGP kinda explains why: "You have to lead it by the nose". If you're happy to "lead it by the nose" you can do well with a lot of very low end models. If you want to kick off a "/goal run until [complex verification passes]" and let it run for a week with minimal intervention, then not so much. You can make do with cheaper models for long running agentic runs too, but it tends to require a lot of extra scaffolding and additional review steps.
- mpalmer 20d agoPeople who know what they want and know how to describe what they want with sufficient detail, and everyone else.
- ChrisMarshallNY 21d agoI’ve just been using it, with a chat interface. Basically, as a “consultant.” For me, and my projects, it’s been great. It’s made an enormous difference. I guess my workflow may seem “quaint,” to many folks, here, but the end results speak for themselves. I suspect that one vocation that could get heavily impacted by AI, is the consulting business. That’s where many experienced people go, as they reach their career peak. In my last project (just about to ship), ChatGPT replaced a whole bunch of services that would usually be supplied by external advisors. But these are also services that I would normally not be able to afford, otherwise, and would just have to “make do” with. This release will have a level of polish that I have would never been able to achieve, unassisted by AI (I had originally used “on my own,” there, but the reality is, it actually was “on my own”).
- apercu 20d agoThe thing about consulting is that someone needs to verify the output, know what questions to ask in the first place, and provide a throat for the client to choke in the event of an issue. Also, professional insurance. I could be wrong but in the worlds I live in professionally, accountability is still a thing.
- ChrisMarshallNY 20d agoYup. There's some places that we'll need that accountability. I suspect that this may be filled by folks that act as "LLM brokers," using AI in the background, while dealing with the legalities, in the foreground. But in my case, it wasn't nearly so exotic. The LLM helped me to do a much better job, preparing the App Store presentation, Web support, privacy policies, budget prognostication, and app glossary. I have just had an extremely complex app, pass App Review, in record time (from going into review, to approval). No niggles or bounces at all. I'm thrilled.
- all2 20d agoI'd be curious to pick your brain about the process you went through for this. My mental gap here is not even knowing what to ask for a process like this.
- ghthor 20d agoSame, all I need is speed to execute editing faster than I could in vim. Luna is cheap, intelligent enough, and fast enough I don’t lose the sense of flow.