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Chinese laws are not valid in the EU

by NicoJuicy 21d ago

jtbayly 21d ago
That’s pretty funny to say when the EU claims GDPR applies worldwide.
- croes 21d ago
  What they don’t do. They claim that the GDPR applies if you provide your service in the EU, and that’s a valid claim.
  - jtbayly 21d ago
    They obviously don’t have a valid claim to be able to tell everyone who wants to put a website on the internet that they have to do it the EU way, which is what we’re actually talking about.
    - croes 21d ago
      If the site can be viewed in the EU, it has to follow EU rules. Not different from other countries. What do you think why the normal polymarket site is blocked for US users.
      - jtbayly 21d ago
        I’ve got a bunch of sites that can be viewed from (checks notes) the internet. If people in Europe don’t like that, they can block it, or choose not to visit it. In the meantime, you’ve proven exactly what I first said, which is that they are claiming it applies worldwide. Here I am, just putting a site on the internet, and you’re telling me I have to follow EU laws concerning it. Nope. I don’t.
        croes 21d ago
        So you decided to provide your webpage in the Eu and know it's the EUs fault that you have to follow local laws. Ar eyou demanding that your rights are valid globally? That's more than the EU want with the GDPR. BTW if you are concerned about the GDPR it means you track your visitors and store personal data about them otherwise you wouldn't have any problem.
        jtbayly 18d ago
        Oh, yeah, no. I’m not providing my webpage in the EU. I’m providing it on the internet. I let people create accounts, so there might be some personal data. Depends on what the GDPR considers personal. I have no idea. Couldn’t care less. I’m not demanding anything. Like I said, I put my site on the internet. If the EU doesn’t like my site, they can block it. I’m not demanding they allow my site in the EU. In the meantime, you are trying to convince me I’m prohibited me from putting a site on the internet unless I’m willing to figure out GDPR’s requirements.
  - ryan-c 21d ago
    They claim it applies to EU citizens when both they and the service are outside the EU as well.
    - croes 21d ago
      No they don’t. The GDPR is location scoped so the data of an EU citizen given to an hotel while on vacation in the US isn’t protected by GDPR but the data of an US citizen giving their data to a hotel in the EU while on vacation is.
      - nijave 21d ago
        That is my understanding as well. Not a lawyer but recently looked into it since we have US, EU, and non-EU European employees and we were looking at token usage tracking tools (which would appear to potentially fall under employee surveillance or at the very least require explicit consent) Not sure the exact legalese but legal put together a consent form for anyone wanting to do the PoC

Chinese laws are not valid in the EU

jtbayly 21d ago

That’s pretty funny to say when the EU claims GDPR applies worldwide.

croes 21d ago
What they don’t do. They claim that the GDPR applies if you provide your service in the EU, and that’s a valid claim.
- jtbayly 21d ago
  They obviously don’t have a valid claim to be able to tell everyone who wants to put a website on the internet that they have to do it the EU way, which is what we’re actually talking about.
  - croes 21d ago
    If the site can be viewed in the EU, it has to follow EU rules. Not different from other countries. What do you think why the normal polymarket site is blocked for US users.
    - jtbayly 21d ago
      I’ve got a bunch of sites that can be viewed from (checks notes) the internet. If people in Europe don’t like that, they can block it, or choose not to visit it. In the meantime, you’ve proven exactly what I first said, which is that they are claiming it applies worldwide. Here I am, just putting a site on the internet, and you’re telling me I have to follow EU laws concerning it. Nope. I don’t.
      - croes 21d ago
        So you decided to provide your webpage in the Eu and know it's the EUs fault that you have to follow local laws. Ar eyou demanding that your rights are valid globally? That's more than the EU want with the GDPR. BTW if you are concerned about the GDPR it means you track your visitors and store personal data about them otherwise you wouldn't have any problem.
        jtbayly 18d ago
        Oh, yeah, no. I’m not providing my webpage in the EU. I’m providing it on the internet. I let people create accounts, so there might be some personal data. Depends on what the GDPR considers personal. I have no idea. Couldn’t care less. I’m not demanding anything. Like I said, I put my site on the internet. If the EU doesn’t like my site, they can block it. I’m not demanding they allow my site in the EU. In the meantime, you are trying to convince me I’m prohibited me from putting a site on the internet unless I’m willing to figure out GDPR’s requirements.
- ryan-c 21d ago
  They claim it applies to EU citizens when both they and the service are outside the EU as well.
  - croes 21d ago
    No they don’t. The GDPR is location scoped so the data of an EU citizen given to an hotel while on vacation in the US isn’t protected by GDPR but the data of an US citizen giving their data to a hotel in the EU while on vacation is.
    - nijave 21d ago
      That is my understanding as well. Not a lawyer but recently looked into it since we have US, EU, and non-EU European employees and we were looking at token usage tracking tools (which would appear to potentially fall under employee surveillance or at the very least require explicit consent) Not sure the exact legalese but legal put together a consent form for anyone wanting to do the PoC