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I have never owned an Apple product that didn't slowly get worse over time. After a couple iPads and MacBooks, I'm almost certain they are intentionally updatin

by foxyv 22d ago

I have never owned an Apple product that didn't slowly get worse over time. After a couple iPads and MacBooks, I'm almost certain they are intentionally updating their operating system to slow down older products. Even worse is the removal of access to certain applications for older hardware in the name of security or compatibility. Meanwhile my Linux laptop continues to get faster every year as the operating system improves with performance updates and bugfixes.

senderista 22d ago
iOS 26 made my iPhone SE pretty much unusable.
- littlecranky67 22d ago
  first gen? Because my SE from 2023 works very well with the latest 26.5 version.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 22d ago
    First gen tops out at iOS15. I just shelved mine (used for a low-end test), a few months ago. I use an iPhone X as my low-end test, now. It tops out on 18.
slowin 22d ago
The only Apple products that I can think of that haven't degraded in quality over time are the iPods and maybe the Apple Watch.
- xp84 22d ago
  Do you mean Airpods?
  - dcl 22d ago
    iPods were a very popular Apple product once upon a time...
  - slowin 21d ago
    No, I meant iPods.
caycep 22d ago
This may be true (not perceptible w/ my apple silicon Macs), but the important thing is that they get slower more slowly than my wintel gets slower (I blame disgruntled Windows and/or nvidia drivers devs....)
- foxyv 21d ago
  Windows is definitely guilty of slowly getting worse performance wise. Requiring faster and faster hardware and more RAM just to keep the OS running.
alluro2 22d ago
Absolutely agree - happened on MBP, 2 generations of iPads, and Watch...For iPads and Watch, I thought that it might just be the famous battery health vs performance tradeoff they enforce on us, but I rarely ever used the MBP on battery, it was plugged in 95% of the time.
DonHopkins 22d ago
My Apple ][+ improved with age as I added things like 48K of RAM, a floppy disk, a language card, etc...
s777 22d ago
When dual booting Asahi Linux and macOS, I have noticed that macOS is much slower and stuff takes like twice as long to compile stuff
yesnomaybe 22d ago
M1 Pro here 32GB 1TB good machine but slowing down so much that I really hate it. I had Asahi on it 2 years ago but in the end had almost bricked it when I tried to reinstall. I'm running a Linux desktop well spec and am quite happy with it. But on the road and in the office I use the MBP. I'm thinking, now that I fully gotten used to and am in love with fedora Workstation and Gnome I should give it another try maybe and see what it can do nowadays. I was holding back cause DP Alt was missing and that still seems to be an issue. but have since reduced to 1 big external monitor so even HDMI would do it. or DisplayLink.

by foxyv 22d ago

senderista 22d ago

iOS 26 made my iPhone SE pretty much unusable.

littlecranky67 22d ago
first gen? Because my SE from 2023 works very well with the latest 26.5 version.
- ChrisMarshallNY 22d ago
  First gen tops out at iOS15. I just shelved mine (used for a low-end test), a few months ago. I use an iPhone X as my low-end test, now. It tops out on 18.

slowin 22d ago

The only Apple products that I can think of that haven't degraded in quality over time are the iPods and maybe the Apple Watch.

xp84 22d ago
Do you mean Airpods?
- dcl 22d ago
  iPods were a very popular Apple product once upon a time...
- slowin 21d ago
  No, I meant iPods.

caycep 22d ago

This may be true (not perceptible w/ my apple silicon Macs), but the important thing is that they get slower more slowly than my wintel gets slower (I blame disgruntled Windows and/or nvidia drivers devs....)

foxyv 21d ago
Windows is definitely guilty of slowly getting worse performance wise. Requiring faster and faster hardware and more RAM just to keep the OS running.

alluro2 22d ago

Absolutely agree - happened on MBP, 2 generations of iPads, and Watch...For iPads and Watch, I thought that it might just be the famous battery health vs performance tradeoff they enforce on us, but I rarely ever used the MBP on battery, it was plugged in 95% of the time.

DonHopkins 22d ago

My Apple ][+ improved with age as I added things like 48K of RAM, a floppy disk, a language card, etc...

s777 22d ago

When dual booting Asahi Linux and macOS, I have noticed that macOS is much slower and stuff takes like twice as long to compile stuff

yesnomaybe 22d ago

M1 Pro here 32GB 1TB good machine but slowing down so much that I really hate it. I had Asahi on it 2 years ago but in the end had almost bricked it when I tried to reinstall. I'm running a Linux desktop well spec and am quite happy with it. But on the road and in the office I use the MBP. I'm thinking, now that I fully gotten used to and am in love with fedora Workstation and Gnome I should give it another try maybe and see what it can do nowadays. I was holding back cause DP Alt was missing and that still seems to be an issue. but have since reduced to 1 big external monitor so even HDMI would do it. or DisplayLink.