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Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

282 points by pizzaiolo 1mo ago

SkinTaco 1mo ago
What is that bit about Bedrijfsaansprakelijkheidsverzekering at the end? I've never heard of business liability insurance before. Does Germany not have an equivalent of an LLC?
- hvb2 1mo ago
  He didn't create an LLC he's a 'stichting' which is basically a non profit with a specific goal to achieve. He doesn't want to create an LLC because he doesn't want anyone to question his motives. Also this is the Netherlands not Germany :)
  - Aachen 1mo ago
    A stichting isn't nonprofit without ANBI status. They can do whatever they want with the money afaik (technically: anything in accordance with the bylaws, but they wrote the bylaws)
- ivan_gammel 1mo ago
  That‘s Dutch, and the same sentence mentions Netherlands. Equivalent of LLC exists everywhere, but business insurance still makes sense if you want to stay in business after paying damages.
- Aachen 1mo ago
  Business liability insurance is standard practice for those operating a foundation (the post calls it nonprofit but afaik that's not the same thing unless they intend to apply for ANBI status, after which you can donate tax-deductably, at least per my understanding) I don't know if it's standard for other business types as well, like in a BV (afaik that's what you call LLC). If you're not the only shareholder, it might help prevent legal issues when you make some mistake and it just gets paid from insurance. That's the purpose of it in a stichting anyway (negligence claims; getting into debts where you could allegedly have foreseen that the foundation can't afford it)
nekusar 1mo ago
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- pimeys 1mo ago
  I bought a OnePlus 6 for 50 euros from eBay and I can do a ton of things with it already. Plasma is great in mobile, and what did not work I got working pretty fast together with Kimi and DeepSeek. For example here's patches to get NFC YubiKey working in Secrets app: https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc It is a work in progress but pretty easy to pick things up and fix in this age of agents...
  - nekusar 1mo ago
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    - wtp1saac 1mo ago
      I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty put-down so you can try and coerce them out of even trying, or make someone else feel bad if they'd use LLMs in their approach. Genuinely, I am going to log off Hacker News and not come back here. Or any social media to be honest. The lot of social media is just doing nothing but raising my blood pressure, making me miserable, and making me more afraid to actually go talk about things with people in real life. And it sucks and I ought to know better at this point. If someone ever sees me use this site again, and scrolls my profile, this is permission to bully me off of using this website :).
      - nekusar 1mo ago
        I didnt say "pimeys sucks". I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest." Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans. Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Climate devastation for sure. Bug ridden? #7 on HN is "AI-Generated GitHub Copilot “Autofix” Allowed Compromise of Snowflake's Jira" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331423 All of that defends the slur 'slopfest', which is well deserved.
greatgib 1mo ago
Great job. My advice would be to not take the frustrating and useless road of a non-profit structure for some things that you do for pleasure. The for-profit will be simpler and give you more liberties, and if, in the end, you have the good mindset that you want your creations to be shared freely, you can do it anyway. It is a state of mind.
- cure_42 1mo ago
  Terrible advice
  - NewJazz 1mo ago
    Why? Nonprofits involve a specific governance structure that may not be optimal, especially for small operations.
    - duckerduck 1mo ago
      That is very region specific, in the Netherlands it's quite easy to operate a non-profit
      - greatgib 1mo ago
        I m quite sure that even in the Netherlands, you will have a lot of obligation and reporting that will be imposed on you because of that. To ensure that the non profit is not used as a for profit. Even in the day to day, like for him to pay himself a salary or do expenses, things could be tricky as administration could easily consider as personal abuse of funds of a non profit.
- Cider9986 1mo ago
  GrapheneOS is a non-profit and they make the most usable, private AOSP operating system.
varun_ch 1mo ago
The part about getting authorized to test the emergency calling capabilities is cool! I should've expected that would be a thing but I didn't ever consider it.
- NewJazz 1mo ago
  Found the pixel modem engineer.
  - ThePowerOfFuet 1mo ago
    Ouch.
zb3 1mo ago
PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM and volunteers have to use hacks to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? That's sad to see. This is just lame, drivers should be implemented by those who work on them.. We had Librem 5 which had real OS support that didn't have to rely on third-party volunteers, I wish they released something more modern..
- yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
  > PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM Is there any precedent to believe that such a thing is in fact possible? > and volunteers have to use hacks I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works. > to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? Conversely, in other places it's far better than Android 1.0. But yes, if you can only start developing against the device after it's released, then your software will be released after the hardware ships plus development time. > That's sad to see. This is just lame, drivers should be implemented by those who work on them.. My general understanding of the Android ecosystem is that they do write drivers, and you don't want those drivers. I like to imagine that somewhere that out there somebody must be making phones with high quality software, but I've never heard of them.
  - zb3 1mo ago
    Murena could, Jolla could, GrapheneOS could do that too (possibly Nexphone also did but we'll find out; only GrapheneOS will give us flagship experience though). Of course these (except Jolla?) are still based on the Android model, but this itself doesn't preclude creating a non-user-hostile OS (of course Google would never certify it), proprietary black-box OEM code only assumes some Android elements, not the end user experience.. > I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works. I've seen some e-waste ODM (Tinno) code and their freestyle philosophy on modifying the kernel code.. however they at least have to fix this so that basic functionality works as there's QA and serious bugs will affect certification and they'd not get paid. But here if you report a bug to PostmarketOS (but well, even LineageOS), nothing will happen unless you fix it (and if you submit a patch, it will sit there forever, welcome to FOSS). > My general understanding of the Android ecosystem is that they do write drivers, and you don't want those drivers What's wrong with pixel drivers for instance? I'm of course not talking about those written by e-waste ODMs like Tinno who can't even release GPL kernel sources properly.
megous 1mo ago
I see AF algo has some trouble with defocussing a perfectly sharp scene for no reason. :) Does this HW have access to PDAF pixel data?
huflungdung 1mo ago
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mistercheph 1mo ago
Awesome
asd000hh 1mo ago
wow amazing
iamkonstantin 1mo ago
Awesome! There are so many cool things we could be doing with our phones if they weren't locked to a single OS
- squigz 1mo ago
  Genuinely curious, like what cool things?
  - 9wQJs3wWewQk 1mo ago
    like running K8s on your old phones?
  - spaqin 1mo ago
    Calling our friends, maybe? No idea; I've tried desktop Linux on phones years prior and besides maybe being a potential portable cyber security rig it was only a cool oddity.
  - ianso 1mo ago
    Apologies for self-linking here, but it's not just cool things, in my opinion it could transform humanitarian aid work. I wrote a use-case/short-story about it here: https://ianso.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-we-dont-have.html https://ianso.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-we-dont-have.html
    - manofmanysmiles 29d ago
      I love this. I see this vision, in many forms, yet have trouble articulating in a way that motivates and inspires others, including myself. I don't think a lack of hardware and software technology is what is lacking, but rather a vision, a dream, a call to action and corresponding courage to act while facing down an invisible enemy that can only been seen by its effects on the world. Thank you for articulating it clearly. It inspires me to take a step back from building, and consider what I'm building and why.
  - fsflover 1mo ago
    Like using your phone as a desktop computer, when it's connected to a screen and keyboard and runs a full desktop OS. Having a full access to all desktop apps, development environments. Also this, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49201496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49201496. Also, choosing the OS means freedom to choose the interface you like or develop your own (or to pay somebody to do that for you). Freedom to not be in walled gardens.
ianso 1mo ago
This is awesome stuff. Fully mainstream Linux with a normal userland running on a modern handset with all features will unlock a tremendous amount of change once it's there. Things like running a distributed database for a community on top of the devices they own, hopefully also running true mesh networking.
- megous 1mo ago
  It's already unlocked on other more open phones. Why do you think this time it will be different?
  - ianso 1mo ago
    I didn't know about the FLX1S+, which looks about as close as to what I want as there is right now. What I'm looking for is an 8GB phone that I can run Docker on, to host apps like DHIS2 & OpenMRS3 (so a JVM). I have the impression that this isn't easily possible with Halium-based kernels, but I'm not an expert. Edit: oh and full access to the radio chips, so I can set up mesh networks (and a cherry on top :-))
abc123abc123 1mo ago
Does ubuntu touch or postmarket os work reliably on the fairphone 6 now, or is this still just components working? Is it possible to use it as a daily driver?
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chinagenie_ai 1mo ago
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hnisjafx40 1mo ago
This aged well
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hn5xz7plcj 1mo ago
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omicronxt 1mo ago
I was recently working on porting PMOS to Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, though switched to NixOS due to much faster update cycle. I got much further than I thought I would (though this was mostly possible due to LLMs without them it would waaaay longer), fixed everything including cameras except mic working in calls. Still bummered about that because I really wanted to try daily driving linux phone but alas not lucky. I wish alternatives like Fairphone or other linux phones step up a game. They have too high a price and too low specs.
- d3Xt3r 1mo ago
  > I wish alternatives like Fairphone or other linux phones step up a game. They have too high a price and too low specs. Check out the FuriPhone FLX1S, Jolla C2 and the Volla Phone Quintus - they all have decent specs for the price (relatively; the reality is that Linux phones will never be cheaper than mainstream Android phones due to the way the market forces work).
- yjftsjthsd-h 29d ago
  > working on porting PMOS to Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, though switched to NixOS due to much faster update cycle As in, Mobile NixOS? How was that?
1dom 1mo ago
I feel the votes and excitement in this thread aren't from people with a Fairphone 6 or PMOS. From the PMOS wiki: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairp...: > No internal speakers or microphones are currently working. Media sound (not calls) is working if connecting a Bluetooth or USB audio device. I got a Fairphone 6 last year, after having a OnePlus 7 Pro which I bought in 2019 and still worked flawlessly, apart from not having received an update in several years. The Fairphone 6 works. It's slower and more buggy than a 7 year old flagship though. I'll probably use it until it dies in however many years time, but my overall experience with Fairphone has been that I've paid a huge amount for a below standard, poorly supported, but apparently fair phone. The Fairphone forums are a trainwreck too. I really, really wish Fairphone was better, but the entire company experience is so janky for how expensive the products are. A prime example: I thought I lost a few eclipse pictures because they weren't showing in the gallery after I took them. I'm pretty certain it's this same bug from over a year ago: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-6-camera-pictures-missing/123096 https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-6-camera-pictures-mi... Me and my partner both got our oneplus 7 pros at the same time, and hers also lasted. She upgraded at same time and just wanted/needed a phone that works for work, so she opted for the Pixel 9a instead. It's cheaper, faster, more reliable and better supported. Sorry to rant - it distresses me a lot when good intentions take a lot of money and deliver a relatively subpar product and service. I guess this is the price of principled tech. It's really not great, unfortunately.
- pizzaiolo 1mo ago
  > No internal speakers or microphones are currently working. Media sound (not calls) is working if connecting a Bluetooth or USB audio device. See the other blog posts by the same author in the story posted.[1] He's added support for these and other hardware parts for the FP6, currently being upstreamed directly to the Linux kernel. [1] https://catcrafts.net/posts https://catcrafts.net/posts
  - 1dom 1mo ago
    Thanks for this. My main hope is that as PMOS become daily-driverable, the nature and number of irritated Fairphone users will quickly make PMOS a better alternative to any of the Androids available on FP6. If that happens, the resultant hardware/software/freedom combo could be well worth the cost. I hope Fairphone make some big donations to PMOS if this happens - it would not be very fair for the people responsible for a buggy phone get all the money whilst the PMOS people who make it great, fair and open get nothing.
solarkraft 1mo ago
I’ve recently been demonstrated NixOS running on a Fairphone (in large part due to the PostmarketOS efforts) and was just blown away by how responsive everything was (legitimately the same as any Android phone, comparable to a low-end Android in Waydroid!). What a far cry from the old Pinephone demos!

282 points by pizzaiolo 1mo ago

What is that bit about Bedrijfsaansprakelijkheidsverzekering at the end? I've never heard of business liability insurance before. Does Germany not have an equivalent of an LLC?

hvb2 1mo ago
He didn't create an LLC he's a 'stichting' which is basically a non profit with a specific goal to achieve. He doesn't want to create an LLC because he doesn't want anyone to question his motives. Also this is the Netherlands not Germany :)
- Aachen 1mo ago
  A stichting isn't nonprofit without ANBI status. They can do whatever they want with the money afaik (technically: anything in accordance with the bylaws, but they wrote the bylaws)
ivan_gammel 1mo ago
That‘s Dutch, and the same sentence mentions Netherlands. Equivalent of LLC exists everywhere, but business insurance still makes sense if you want to stay in business after paying damages.
Aachen 1mo ago
Business liability insurance is standard practice for those operating a foundation (the post calls it nonprofit but afaik that's not the same thing unless they intend to apply for ANBI status, after which you can donate tax-deductably, at least per my understanding) I don't know if it's standard for other business types as well, like in a BV (afaik that's what you call LLC). If you're not the only shareholder, it might help prevent legal issues when you make some mistake and it just gets paid from insurance. That's the purpose of it in a stichting anyway (negligence claims; getting into debts where you could allegedly have foreseen that the foundation can't afford it)

nekusar 1mo ago

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pimeys 1mo ago
I bought a OnePlus 6 for 50 euros from eBay and I can do a ton of things with it already. Plasma is great in mobile, and what did not work I got working pretty fast together with Kimi and DeepSeek. For example here's patches to get NFC YubiKey working in Secrets app: https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc It is a work in progress but pretty easy to pick things up and fix in this age of agents...
- nekusar 1mo ago
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  - wtp1saac 1mo ago
    I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty put-down so you can try and coerce them out of even trying, or make someone else feel bad if they'd use LLMs in their approach. Genuinely, I am going to log off Hacker News and not come back here. Or any social media to be honest. The lot of social media is just doing nothing but raising my blood pressure, making me miserable, and making me more afraid to actually go talk about things with people in real life. And it sucks and I ought to know better at this point. If someone ever sees me use this site again, and scrolls my profile, this is permission to bully me off of using this website :).
    - nekusar 1mo ago
      I didnt say "pimeys sucks". I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest." Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans. Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Climate devastation for sure. Bug ridden? #7 on HN is "AI-Generated GitHub Copilot “Autofix” Allowed Compromise of Snowflake's Jira" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331423 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331423 All of that defends the slur 'slopfest', which is well deserved.

greatgib 1mo ago

Great job. My advice would be to not take the frustrating and useless road of a non-profit structure for some things that you do for pleasure. The for-profit will be simpler and give you more liberties, and if, in the end, you have the good mindset that you want your creations to be shared freely, you can do it anyway. It is a state of mind.

cure_42 1mo ago
Terrible advice
- NewJazz 1mo ago
  Why? Nonprofits involve a specific governance structure that may not be optimal, especially for small operations.
  - duckerduck 1mo ago
    That is very region specific, in the Netherlands it's quite easy to operate a non-profit
    - greatgib 1mo ago
      I m quite sure that even in the Netherlands, you will have a lot of obligation and reporting that will be imposed on you because of that. To ensure that the non profit is not used as a for profit. Even in the day to day, like for him to pay himself a salary or do expenses, things could be tricky as administration could easily consider as personal abuse of funds of a non profit.
Cider9986 1mo ago
GrapheneOS is a non-profit and they make the most usable, private AOSP operating system.

varun_ch 1mo ago

The part about getting authorized to test the emergency calling capabilities is cool! I should've expected that would be a thing but I didn't ever consider it.

NewJazz 1mo ago
Found the pixel modem engineer.
- ThePowerOfFuet 1mo ago
  Ouch.

zb3 1mo ago

PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM and volunteers have to use hacks to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? That's sad to see. This is just lame, drivers should be implemented by those who work on them.. We had Librem 5 which had real OS support that didn't have to rely on third-party volunteers, I wish they released something more modern..

yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
> PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM Is there any precedent to believe that such a thing is in fact possible? > and volunteers have to use hacks I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works. > to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? Conversely, in other places it's far better than Android 1.0. But yes, if you can only start developing against the device after it's released, then your software will be released after the hardware ships plus development time. > That's sad to see. This is just lame, drivers should be implemented by those who work on them.. My general understanding of the Android ecosystem is that they do write drivers, and you don't want those drivers. I like to imagine that somewhere that out there somebody must be making phones with high quality software, but I've never heard of them.
- zb3 1mo ago
  Murena could, Jolla could, GrapheneOS could do that too (possibly Nexphone also did but we'll find out; only GrapheneOS will give us flagship experience though). Of course these (except Jolla?) are still based on the Android model, but this itself doesn't preclude creating a non-user-hostile OS (of course Google would never certify it), proprietary black-box OEM code only assumes some Android elements, not the end user experience.. > I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works. I've seen some e-waste ODM (Tinno) code and their freestyle philosophy on modifying the kernel code.. however they at least have to fix this so that basic functionality works as there's QA and serious bugs will affect certification and they'd not get paid. But here if you report a bug to PostmarketOS (but well, even LineageOS), nothing will happen unless you fix it (and if you submit a patch, it will sit there forever, welcome to FOSS). > My general understanding of the Android ecosystem is that they do write drivers, and you don't want those drivers What's wrong with pixel drivers for instance? I'm of course not talking about those written by e-waste ODMs like Tinno who can't even release GPL kernel sources properly.

megous 1mo ago

I see AF algo has some trouble with defocussing a perfectly sharp scene for no reason. :) Does this HW have access to PDAF pixel data?

huflungdung 1mo ago

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mistercheph 1mo ago

Awesome

asd000hh 1mo ago

wow amazing

iamkonstantin 1mo ago

Awesome! There are so many cool things we could be doing with our phones if they weren't locked to a single OS

squigz 1mo ago
Genuinely curious, like what cool things?
- 9wQJs3wWewQk 1mo ago
  like running K8s on your old phones?
- spaqin 1mo ago
  Calling our friends, maybe? No idea; I've tried desktop Linux on phones years prior and besides maybe being a potential portable cyber security rig it was only a cool oddity.
- ianso 1mo ago
  Apologies for self-linking here, but it's not just cool things, in my opinion it could transform humanitarian aid work. I wrote a use-case/short-story about it here: https://ianso.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-we-dont-have.html https://ianso.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-we-dont-have.html
  - manofmanysmiles 29d ago
    I love this. I see this vision, in many forms, yet have trouble articulating in a way that motivates and inspires others, including myself. I don't think a lack of hardware and software technology is what is lacking, but rather a vision, a dream, a call to action and corresponding courage to act while facing down an invisible enemy that can only been seen by its effects on the world. Thank you for articulating it clearly. It inspires me to take a step back from building, and consider what I'm building and why.
- fsflover 1mo ago
  Like using your phone as a desktop computer, when it's connected to a screen and keyboard and runs a full desktop OS. Having a full access to all desktop apps, development environments. Also this, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49201496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49201496. Also, choosing the OS means freedom to choose the interface you like or develop your own (or to pay somebody to do that for you). Freedom to not be in walled gardens.

ianso 1mo ago

This is awesome stuff. Fully mainstream Linux with a normal userland running on a modern handset with all features will unlock a tremendous amount of change once it's there. Things like running a distributed database for a community on top of the devices they own, hopefully also running true mesh networking.

megous 1mo ago
It's already unlocked on other more open phones. Why do you think this time it will be different?
- ianso 1mo ago
  I didn't know about the FLX1S+, which looks about as close as to what I want as there is right now. What I'm looking for is an 8GB phone that I can run Docker on, to host apps like DHIS2 & OpenMRS3 (so a JVM). I have the impression that this isn't easily possible with Halium-based kernels, but I'm not an expert. Edit: oh and full access to the radio chips, so I can set up mesh networks (and a cherry on top :-))

abc123abc123 1mo ago

Does ubuntu touch or postmarket os work reliably on the fairphone 6 now, or is this still just components working? Is it possible to use it as a daily driver?

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chinagenie_ai 1mo ago

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hnisjafx40 1mo ago

This aged well

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hn5xz7plcj 1mo ago

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omicronxt 1mo ago

I was recently working on porting PMOS to Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, though switched to NixOS due to much faster update cycle. I got much further than I thought I would (though this was mostly possible due to LLMs without them it would waaaay longer), fixed everything including cameras except mic working in calls. Still bummered about that because I really wanted to try daily driving linux phone but alas not lucky. I wish alternatives like Fairphone or other linux phones step up a game. They have too high a price and too low specs.

d3Xt3r 1mo ago
> I wish alternatives like Fairphone or other linux phones step up a game. They have too high a price and too low specs. Check out the FuriPhone FLX1S, Jolla C2 and the Volla Phone Quintus - they all have decent specs for the price (relatively; the reality is that Linux phones will never be cheaper than mainstream Android phones due to the way the market forces work).
yjftsjthsd-h 29d ago
> working on porting PMOS to Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro, though switched to NixOS due to much faster update cycle As in, Mobile NixOS? How was that?

1dom 1mo ago

I feel the votes and excitement in this thread aren't from people with a Fairphone 6 or PMOS. From the PMOS wiki: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairphone-fp6) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Fairphone_(Gen._6)_(fairp...: > No internal speakers or microphones are currently working. Media sound (not calls) is working if connecting a Bluetooth or USB audio device. I got a Fairphone 6 last year, after having a OnePlus 7 Pro which I bought in 2019 and still worked flawlessly, apart from not having received an update in several years. The Fairphone 6 works. It's slower and more buggy than a 7 year old flagship though. I'll probably use it until it dies in however many years time, but my overall experience with Fairphone has been that I've paid a huge amount for a below standard, poorly supported, but apparently fair phone. The Fairphone forums are a trainwreck too. I really, really wish Fairphone was better, but the entire company experience is so janky for how expensive the products are. A prime example: I thought I lost a few eclipse pictures because they weren't showing in the gallery after I took them. I'm pretty certain it's this same bug from over a year ago: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-6-camera-pictures-missing/123096 https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fairphone-6-camera-pictures-mi... Me and my partner both got our oneplus 7 pros at the same time, and hers also lasted. She upgraded at same time and just wanted/needed a phone that works for work, so she opted for the Pixel 9a instead. It's cheaper, faster, more reliable and better supported. Sorry to rant - it distresses me a lot when good intentions take a lot of money and deliver a relatively subpar product and service. I guess this is the price of principled tech. It's really not great, unfortunately.

pizzaiolo 1mo ago
> No internal speakers or microphones are currently working. Media sound (not calls) is working if connecting a Bluetooth or USB audio device. See the other blog posts by the same author in the story posted.[1] He's added support for these and other hardware parts for the FP6, currently being upstreamed directly to the Linux kernel. [1] https://catcrafts.net/posts https://catcrafts.net/posts
- 1dom 1mo ago
  Thanks for this. My main hope is that as PMOS become daily-driverable, the nature and number of irritated Fairphone users will quickly make PMOS a better alternative to any of the Androids available on FP6. If that happens, the resultant hardware/software/freedom combo could be well worth the cost. I hope Fairphone make some big donations to PMOS if this happens - it would not be very fair for the people responsible for a buggy phone get all the money whilst the PMOS people who make it great, fair and open get nothing.

solarkraft 1mo ago

I’ve recently been demonstrated NixOS running on a Fairphone (in large part due to the PostmarketOS efforts) and was just blown away by how responsive everything was (legitimately the same as any Android phone, comparable to a low-end Android in Waydroid!). What a far cry from the old Pinephone demos!