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Number of devices fully supported: 0 Oh, you linked to Fairphone 4, let's see: - battery: partial - audio: partial - camera: partial - fingerprint: broken

by zb3 1mo ago

Number of devices fully supported: 0 Oh, you linked to Fairphone 4, let's see: - battery: partial - audio: partial - camera: partial - fingerprint: broken postmarketOS device support is a joke, they couldn't even get ONE vendor to support the OS..

MYEUHD 1mo ago
Purism Librem 5 is fully supported: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Purism_Librem5_(purism-librem5) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Purism_Librem5_(purism-li...
realusername 1mo ago
I'd say the OnePlus 6 is fully supported so it's one device at least (the stuff that isn't on it is minor). Mainlining is very hard though so the results are expected
- droserasprout 1mo ago
  I can confirm this holding OP6 (enchilada) in my hands — it's a flagship postmarketOS device. It also has other nerd options available — Sailfish and Windows (Renegade Project) — but obviously with poor hardware support. I highly recommend keeping an eye on postmarketOS blog. [1] It's a fun reading, and development's been really rapid lately. What stopped me from full migration to pmOS the last time I tried it about a year ago was poor support of Magisk and Xposed in Waydroid, two things I can't imagine using Android apps without. But! With some tricks you can get pmOS dualboot on OP6. [2] Haven't tried it, but looks amazing. I think with the current direction and velocity, pmOS is going to get really close to Android in usability on supported hardware in the next couple of years. Except for power saving parity that never gonna happen. [1] https://postmarketos.org/blog/ https://postmarketos.org/blog/ [2] https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchilada)/Multi_Booting_and_Custom_Partitioning https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchil...
  - zb3 1mo ago
    You misunderstood my comment.. this level of "support" is based on hacks = volunteer work, where the community working together (for free) is able to support one device "almost" completely after only 8 years, relying on hacks/reverse engineering etc.. But it's not like OnePlus or Qualcomm officially supports that, right? They didn't have any deal with any OEM where there would be someone employed to support the OS.. (even though they receive donations) Like, all this is.. not serious.. the closest alternative to Android/iOS is GrapheneOS, because there are full-time employees AND they have a partnership with Motorola, so they won't have to rely on any hacks.. well obviously that's unaffordable but it's a different story.
    - realusername 1mo ago
      > You misunderstood my comment.. this level of "support" is based on hacks = volunteer work, where the community working together (for free) is able to support one device "almost" completely after only 8 years, relying on hacks/reverse engineering etc.. I guess you have not seen any of actual Qualcomm code yet to say that, Qualcomm code is really what you would define as a pile hacks. Made by hardware engineers with no regards for code quality, maintainability or mainlinability. OnePlus 6 comparatively is almost mainlined properly from start to finish, with a level of quality that you have nowhere in the mobile world. Sure this smartphone a bit older but remember the Nokia N900 is still supported and it went out in 2009. Mainlining mobile devices is very hard, but that's not hacks, that's how it's supposed to be done.
    - droserasprout 1mo ago
      Yes, I get your point. I'd say the waterline of mobile Linux "seriousness" is whether a device has a bootable mainline kernel build. Once SoC support lands in the kernel, it becomes a problem for a lot of people on high salaries (including some at Qualcomm). And hardware support doesn't get dropped from the kernel overnight. For everything above, in userspace, you don't need a deal with OEMs or their blessing to make things work. It's a pretty generic stack: Alpine, systemd, familiar WMs/DEs. But yeah, I hope to see more deals like the recent Motorola-GrapheneOS announcement in the future.
  - 1mo ago

by zb3 1mo ago

MYEUHD 1mo ago

Purism Librem 5 is fully supported: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Purism_Librem5_(purism-librem5) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Purism_Librem5_(purism-li...

realusername 1mo ago

I'd say the OnePlus 6 is fully supported so it's one device at least (the stuff that isn't on it is minor). Mainlining is very hard though so the results are expected

droserasprout 1mo ago
I can confirm this holding OP6 (enchilada) in my hands — it's a flagship postmarketOS device. It also has other nerd options available — Sailfish and Windows (Renegade Project) — but obviously with poor hardware support. I highly recommend keeping an eye on postmarketOS blog. [1] It's a fun reading, and development's been really rapid lately. What stopped me from full migration to pmOS the last time I tried it about a year ago was poor support of Magisk and Xposed in Waydroid, two things I can't imagine using Android apps without. But! With some tricks you can get pmOS dualboot on OP6. [2] Haven't tried it, but looks amazing. I think with the current direction and velocity, pmOS is going to get really close to Android in usability on supported hardware in the next couple of years. Except for power saving parity that never gonna happen. [1] https://postmarketos.org/blog/ https://postmarketos.org/blog/ [2] https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchilada)/Multi_Booting_and_Custom_Partitioning https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchil...
- zb3 1mo ago
  You misunderstood my comment.. this level of "support" is based on hacks = volunteer work, where the community working together (for free) is able to support one device "almost" completely after only 8 years, relying on hacks/reverse engineering etc.. But it's not like OnePlus or Qualcomm officially supports that, right? They didn't have any deal with any OEM where there would be someone employed to support the OS.. (even though they receive donations) Like, all this is.. not serious.. the closest alternative to Android/iOS is GrapheneOS, because there are full-time employees AND they have a partnership with Motorola, so they won't have to rely on any hacks.. well obviously that's unaffordable but it's a different story.
  - realusername 1mo ago
    > You misunderstood my comment.. this level of "support" is based on hacks = volunteer work, where the community working together (for free) is able to support one device "almost" completely after only 8 years, relying on hacks/reverse engineering etc.. I guess you have not seen any of actual Qualcomm code yet to say that, Qualcomm code is really what you would define as a pile hacks. Made by hardware engineers with no regards for code quality, maintainability or mainlinability. OnePlus 6 comparatively is almost mainlined properly from start to finish, with a level of quality that you have nowhere in the mobile world. Sure this smartphone a bit older but remember the Nokia N900 is still supported and it went out in 2009. Mainlining mobile devices is very hard, but that's not hacks, that's how it's supposed to be done.
  - droserasprout 1mo ago
    Yes, I get your point. I'd say the waterline of mobile Linux "seriousness" is whether a device has a bootable mainline kernel build. Once SoC support lands in the kernel, it becomes a problem for a lot of people on high salaries (including some at Qualcomm). And hardware support doesn't get dropped from the kernel overnight. For everything above, in userspace, you don't need a deal with OEMs or their blessing to make things work. It's a pretty generic stack: Alpine, systemd, familiar WMs/DEs. But yeah, I hope to see more deals like the recent Motorola-GrapheneOS announcement in the future.
- 1mo ago