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Please also note that ADHD-like symptoms can present from sleep Apnea/UARS-induced sleep deprivation and the probability of having Apnea/UARS rises with age. Sm

by mordae 2mo ago

Please also note that ADHD-like symptoms can present from sleep Apnea/UARS-induced sleep deprivation and the probability of having Apnea/UARS rises with age. Smoothly for men and a with a sudden jump after menopause for women. So if you feel like you are getting more ADHD-like issues, do consider a sleep study. Early tells are easy: you often feel like shit in the morning.

Der_Einzige 2mo ago
One of the many reasons why we should air drop GLP-1 over the entire country, like condoms in Bangladesh!
- MrDrMcCoy 2mo ago
  Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them. Weight is also not necessarily the factor that leads to sleep apnea; I got diagnosed while having a healthy weight in my 30s.
  - Levitz 2mo ago
    >Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them. This doesn't seem factual, or at the very least, not that simple? https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/two-years-after-stopping-glp-1s-most-patients-sustain-at-least-some-weight-loss/ https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/two-years-after-stoppi...
    - 0x20cowboy 2mo ago
      Not the OP, but there was a lot of talk that glp1 had a negative effect on bone density and in older people it was especially problematic. There is evidence that is not the case though https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878541/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878541/
      - Izkata 2mo ago
        Something I'd picked up somewhere a decade or two ago was losing weight too fast can cause problems with bone and muscle density. So it could be related but not a direct effect. I think they were referring to rebound weight though, something else I'd heard about these drugs that also doesn't affect everyone. A scarier one was one person whose weight got too low so they stopped taking it, but for some reason had a lot of trouble gaining any weight and getting up to a healthy level.
      - lukas099 2mo ago
        In old people obesity predicts longer lifespans, so GLP-1 might not be indicated anyway.
- ChiperSoft 2mo ago
  The satiation effect that GLP-1s cause also affects motivational drive. I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic.
  - palmotea 2mo ago
    > I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic. You should be using LLM agents anyway. It's the solution to every problem.
    - yifanl 2mo ago
      Can I have LLMs replace my GLP-1?
      - palmotea 2mo ago
        Yes. LLMs are the new zombo.com. You can do anything with LLMs. Anything at all. The only limit is yourself.
      - canibal 2mo ago
        Bruh, you're not using ChatGLP?
    - ChiperSoft 2mo ago
      If only an LLM could clean my house
- SubmarineClub 2mo ago
  No thanks, don’t need it, don’t want it!
- lazide 2mo ago
  Talk about a terrible indictment of western culture if I ever heard of one!
- deterministic 2mo ago
  GLP-1 has negative side effects (loss of lean mass for example) that I most definitely do not want.
athorax 2mo ago
I recently went through this. I was diagnosed with ADHD 15 years ago and have been managing it, but over the last 2-3 years I had been experiencing increased levels of brain fog, fatigue, and by ability to focus had deteriorated to the point I wasn't sure if I would be able to continue working. I had a sleep study done 10 years ago that only found Night Terror Disorder, but no signs of sleep apnea. I did another sleep study about 6 months ago and it turns out while I wasn't having apnea events I had constant and persistent hypopnea. Started using a CPAP and it feels like I've been given a second lease on life. FWIW, I am a very active and in shape individual within a healthy weight range. Don't wait to get tested if you have even the slightest worry you may have it.
- leetrout 2mo ago
  I was prescribed modafinil earlier this year and it worked well when I took it but it was intense at the useful dose so the doctor put in for a sleep study. It was a 3 month wait but I am finally getting it done next week an I'm hopeful it leads to a conclusive diagnosis. I also noticed my issues were worse after my 3rd bout of covid :-/ I had very high sensitivity to alcohol and caffeine after the 2nd bout and have largely cut both out of my life (I never drank more than 20 drinks / year in my life anyway).
- code_biologist 2mo ago
  What machine and mask do you have? I had a bad CPAP experience 2017ish and navigating sleep apnea treatment with ADHD kinda sucks. I got a recent sleep study done, but the doctor's office seems like a sales farm for a specific CPAP brand/model and they aggressively steered me away from an oral appliance.
  - ajolly 2mo ago
    Resmed 10 series are super hackable. Don't get a 11 The 11 is just a cost saving revision. Masks are very individual but a lot of providers will do free exchanges.
  - athorax 2mo ago
    I understand your pain. One of the cruel realities of ADHD is how difficult it makes doing the things needed to help you treat it. I honestly just went with whatever my doctor/insurance gave me. Its a Luna G3X and my insurance uses a company called BetterNight. They have been fine so far, but I know there are also companies you can use that don't take insurance that I have generally heard are better to work with if you are okay with not using insurance. Lofta was what was recommended to me by a coworker.

by mordae 2mo ago

Der_Einzige 2mo ago

One of the many reasons why we should air drop GLP-1 over the entire country, like condoms in Bangladesh!

MrDrMcCoy 2mo ago
Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them. Weight is also not necessarily the factor that leads to sleep apnea; I got diagnosed while having a healthy weight in my 30s.
- Levitz 2mo ago
  >Please, no. GLP1s leave you worse off than when you started if you stop taking them. This doesn't seem factual, or at the very least, not that simple? https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/two-years-after-stopping-glp-1s-most-patients-sustain-at-least-some-weight-loss/ https://www.epicresearch.org/articles/two-years-after-stoppi...
  - 0x20cowboy 2mo ago
    Not the OP, but there was a lot of talk that glp1 had a negative effect on bone density and in older people it was especially problematic. There is evidence that is not the case though https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878541/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8878541/
    - Izkata 2mo ago
      Something I'd picked up somewhere a decade or two ago was losing weight too fast can cause problems with bone and muscle density. So it could be related but not a direct effect. I think they were referring to rebound weight though, something else I'd heard about these drugs that also doesn't affect everyone. A scarier one was one person whose weight got too low so they stopped taking it, but for some reason had a lot of trouble gaining any weight and getting up to a healthy level.
    - lukas099 2mo ago
      In old people obesity predicts longer lifespans, so GLP-1 might not be indicated anyway.
ChiperSoft 2mo ago
The satiation effect that GLP-1s cause also affects motivational drive. I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic.
- palmotea 2mo ago
  > I've noticed my ability to get work done is hampered when I am at higher doses of my ozempic. You should be using LLM agents anyway. It's the solution to every problem.
  - yifanl 2mo ago
    Can I have LLMs replace my GLP-1?
    - palmotea 2mo ago
      Yes. LLMs are the new zombo.com. You can do anything with LLMs. Anything at all. The only limit is yourself.
    - canibal 2mo ago
      Bruh, you're not using ChatGLP?
  - ChiperSoft 2mo ago
    If only an LLM could clean my house
SubmarineClub 2mo ago
No thanks, don’t need it, don’t want it!
lazide 2mo ago
Talk about a terrible indictment of western culture if I ever heard of one!
deterministic 2mo ago
GLP-1 has negative side effects (loss of lean mass for example) that I most definitely do not want.

athorax 2mo ago

I recently went through this. I was diagnosed with ADHD 15 years ago and have been managing it, but over the last 2-3 years I had been experiencing increased levels of brain fog, fatigue, and by ability to focus had deteriorated to the point I wasn't sure if I would be able to continue working. I had a sleep study done 10 years ago that only found Night Terror Disorder, but no signs of sleep apnea. I did another sleep study about 6 months ago and it turns out while I wasn't having apnea events I had constant and persistent hypopnea. Started using a CPAP and it feels like I've been given a second lease on life. FWIW, I am a very active and in shape individual within a healthy weight range. Don't wait to get tested if you have even the slightest worry you may have it.

leetrout 2mo ago
I was prescribed modafinil earlier this year and it worked well when I took it but it was intense at the useful dose so the doctor put in for a sleep study. It was a 3 month wait but I am finally getting it done next week an I'm hopeful it leads to a conclusive diagnosis. I also noticed my issues were worse after my 3rd bout of covid :-/ I had very high sensitivity to alcohol and caffeine after the 2nd bout and have largely cut both out of my life (I never drank more than 20 drinks / year in my life anyway).
code_biologist 2mo ago
What machine and mask do you have? I had a bad CPAP experience 2017ish and navigating sleep apnea treatment with ADHD kinda sucks. I got a recent sleep study done, but the doctor's office seems like a sales farm for a specific CPAP brand/model and they aggressively steered me away from an oral appliance.
- ajolly 2mo ago
  Resmed 10 series are super hackable. Don't get a 11 The 11 is just a cost saving revision. Masks are very individual but a lot of providers will do free exchanges.
- athorax 2mo ago
  I understand your pain. One of the cruel realities of ADHD is how difficult it makes doing the things needed to help you treat it. I honestly just went with whatever my doctor/insurance gave me. Its a Luna G3X and my insurance uses a company called BetterNight. They have been fine so far, but I know there are also companies you can use that don't take insurance that I have generally heard are better to work with if you are okay with not using insurance. Lofta was what was recommended to me by a coworker.