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Personal anecdote: I exhausted my Claude usage yesterday so I decided to spend 20$ to try Kimi while I was at it. Logged in, paid, downloaded Kimi Code, set it

Personal anecdote: I exhausted my Claude usage yesterday so I decided to spend 20$ to try Kimi while I was at it. Logged in, paid, downloaded Kimi Code, set it to use K3 and prompted something along the lines of: "Check this repository and find all the settings that can be passed as input related to hardware, I/O, thread control or networking. Produce a report". It thought for about 12 minutes and then told me I had exhausted my daily quota. (The next day Fable did the same task in 3m) If you want to buy a plan for K3 do NOT buy the 20$ one.

satvikpendem 2mo ago
Codex works for this, it'll continue thinking and will answer the prompt even if your limit is reached.
- wingworks 2mo ago
  I feel like this is the right way to do it. Especially if you're using your own credits. Unless it's obnoxiously long task. So often it'll cut off just as it's about to finish.
  - onlyrealcuzzo 2mo ago
    Buys $10 worth of credits. > Codex, translate the entire PostgreSQL codebase to idiomatic Rust, make no mistakes.
    - therein 2mo ago
      Next day do it in Zig. The day after that, Zig broke compatibility, fix that.
Altern4tiveAcc 2mo ago
I had the _exact_ same problem. Got the 20 USD/month subscription from Kimi.com (paid annually), exhausted my 5-hour quota with a simple prompt on OpenCode + Kimi K2.7 through their API. Cursor got the same prompt done in minutes. According to their web interface, I'm also on 23% of my weekly usage. That feels crazy, as I do a lot more than that on the 20 USD Cursor plan, and never got even a warning. I thought OpenCode was doing something wrong, but you had the same issue with Kimi Code.
- ffsm8 2mo ago
  Moonshot AI has two subscriptions archetypes and the one they link to from their main page is the subscription for the web interface/research/agents/OpenClaw (that they host for you) There is a small link below the tiles for these plans saying something "looking to use it for code? Use Kimi code" and upon clicking you'll get a basically identically looking subscription page with different sub prices and more quota Non coding plans: * Plus (19 "base agent" -- wahtever that might be) * Pro (39 x2 ) * Max (99 x6) * Ultra (199 x12) > https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing Coding plans: * Starter (19 - "base coding") * Explorer (49 - x4) * Expert (99 x10) * Master (219 x25) > https://www.kimi.com/code https://www.kimi.com/code I stumbled on that when i tried Kimi K2.5 back when that was released. It's also worth mentioning that the $20 get you a 0.25 priority for API usage - because the others get x4 priority. So get ready for a _slow_ experience
  - Altern4tiveAcc 2mo ago
    Thank you so much. I was about to ask you for links, since they have multiple domains that look similar (kimi.ai, kimi.com, moonshot.ai, etc.). I wasn't sure which one was the legit one, or if they all are. The plan I got is called "Moderato", which somehow isn't any of those 8... I'll try to read more about it.
  - sbochins 2mo ago
    That doesn’t appear to be the case anymore. They just have one set of plans: Allegreto, modereto, etc which apply to both the chat app and the coding apps.
    - KronisLV 2mo ago
      Can confirm, I see these monthly prices on both pages: Moderato: 19 USD or 15 USD annually Allegretto: 39 USD or 31 USD annually Allegro: 99 USD or 79 USD annually Vivace: 199 USD or 159 USD annually However, they're saying that the plans might get split up again: > New Membership Plans Coming Soon > Kimi and Kimi Code benefits will be separated. Existing subscribers are unaffected. > You can still buy the current plan before launch. Same as with the Tweet: > Going forward, we'll also split membership into two more focused plans: Kimi Membership for Kimi Web, App, and Work; and Kimi Code Membership for coding workflows. This will help us match compute more precisely and keep the experience stable. Problem is I don't know whether to pull the trigger on the annual Vivace now or wait for after the split - whether it's gonna be a cash grab afterwards on the account of the demand, or whether I might save some money if I buy it after the split.
kamranjon 2mo ago
So I am likely coming from a completely different world because I use entirely self hosted models - but is it really common in your workflows to just wait for 12 minutes without any feedback? I am constantly watching my model and following the path it’s taking and cutting it off or steering it if it’s headed down a dead path. I was just curious if this is really common to just have no feedback for 12 minutes?
- _zoltan_ 2mo ago
  I have Claude workflows that it takes 30+ minutes to get any feedback while it thinks
- thevinter 2mo ago
  Well, to be clear, there was some feedback (e.g. it was calling subagents and printing some thinking messages). That said, yes, it is pretty common for me to wait 10, 20 and sometimes even 30 minutes without steering the model or looking at what its doing. I usually write a pretty detailed prompt at the start that describes the issue, the usecases, the testing to do and the definition of success; then I sometimes ask it to draft a plan and give it a read, but after that I just press enter, let it run and come back when it's done. In the end I do a manual review, both of the code and the functionality, but most of the time I get exactly what I wanted.
- jdthedisciple 2mo ago
  I recently had GPT 5.6 work on something for 54 minutes while I went to sleep
  - MRiabov 2mo ago
    I had two agents work from 7pm to 6am today... a routine for me. Today we needed to migrate to a cheaper CI/CD provider and do a better robotic for a particular task. GPT-5.6 Sol.
- roncesvalles 2mo ago
  Usually, the longer the AI works on something the crappier its output because that means the context is getting filled up. If my AI prompt takes more than 5 minutes to execute, I'm almost certain to stop it and break up the task or be more specific about what files it should look at or what subtask it should tackle first. The people who let it run for hours are absolutely not getting anything worth keeping in the end.
throw1234567891 2mo ago
What's the app? nodejs todo app with a "database back end" in a text file, or a 1m line spaghetti code COBOL app from 1971?
phyzix5761 2mo ago
I had the same experience with Claude the other day. I asked it for something fairly simple and it used up my whole 5 hour quota without producing the answer. Felt like a total waste of time.
zeratax 2mo ago
kinda surprising to me after the macos web demo was apparently done on the $40 monthly coding plan which was like a 6 hour task

satvikpendem 2mo ago

Codex works for this, it'll continue thinking and will answer the prompt even if your limit is reached.

wingworks 2mo ago
I feel like this is the right way to do it. Especially if you're using your own credits. Unless it's obnoxiously long task. So often it'll cut off just as it's about to finish.
- onlyrealcuzzo 2mo ago
  Buys $10 worth of credits. > Codex, translate the entire PostgreSQL codebase to idiomatic Rust, make no mistakes.
  - therein 2mo ago
    Next day do it in Zig. The day after that, Zig broke compatibility, fix that.

Altern4tiveAcc 2mo ago

I had the _exact_ same problem. Got the 20 USD/month subscription from Kimi.com (paid annually), exhausted my 5-hour quota with a simple prompt on OpenCode + Kimi K2.7 through their API. Cursor got the same prompt done in minutes. According to their web interface, I'm also on 23% of my weekly usage. That feels crazy, as I do a lot more than that on the 20 USD Cursor plan, and never got even a warning. I thought OpenCode was doing something wrong, but you had the same issue with Kimi Code.

ffsm8 2mo ago
Moonshot AI has two subscriptions archetypes and the one they link to from their main page is the subscription for the web interface/research/agents/OpenClaw (that they host for you) There is a small link below the tiles for these plans saying something "looking to use it for code? Use Kimi code" and upon clicking you'll get a basically identically looking subscription page with different sub prices and more quota Non coding plans: * Plus (19 "base agent" -- wahtever that might be) * Pro (39 x2 ) * Max (99 x6) * Ultra (199 x12) > https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing https://www.kimi.com/membership/pricing Coding plans: * Starter (19 - "base coding") * Explorer (49 - x4) * Expert (99 x10) * Master (219 x25) > https://www.kimi.com/code https://www.kimi.com/code I stumbled on that when i tried Kimi K2.5 back when that was released. It's also worth mentioning that the $20 get you a 0.25 priority for API usage - because the others get x4 priority. So get ready for a _slow_ experience
- Altern4tiveAcc 2mo ago
  Thank you so much. I was about to ask you for links, since they have multiple domains that look similar (kimi.ai, kimi.com, moonshot.ai, etc.). I wasn't sure which one was the legit one, or if they all are. The plan I got is called "Moderato", which somehow isn't any of those 8... I'll try to read more about it.
- sbochins 2mo ago
  That doesn’t appear to be the case anymore. They just have one set of plans: Allegreto, modereto, etc which apply to both the chat app and the coding apps.
  - KronisLV 2mo ago
    Can confirm, I see these monthly prices on both pages: Moderato: 19 USD or 15 USD annually Allegretto: 39 USD or 31 USD annually Allegro: 99 USD or 79 USD annually Vivace: 199 USD or 159 USD annually However, they're saying that the plans might get split up again: > New Membership Plans Coming Soon > Kimi and Kimi Code benefits will be separated. Existing subscribers are unaffected. > You can still buy the current plan before launch. Same as with the Tweet: > Going forward, we'll also split membership into two more focused plans: Kimi Membership for Kimi Web, App, and Work; and Kimi Code Membership for coding workflows. This will help us match compute more precisely and keep the experience stable. Problem is I don't know whether to pull the trigger on the annual Vivace now or wait for after the split - whether it's gonna be a cash grab afterwards on the account of the demand, or whether I might save some money if I buy it after the split.

kamranjon 2mo ago

So I am likely coming from a completely different world because I use entirely self hosted models - but is it really common in your workflows to just wait for 12 minutes without any feedback? I am constantly watching my model and following the path it’s taking and cutting it off or steering it if it’s headed down a dead path. I was just curious if this is really common to just have no feedback for 12 minutes?

_zoltan_ 2mo ago
I have Claude workflows that it takes 30+ minutes to get any feedback while it thinks
thevinter 2mo ago
Well, to be clear, there was some feedback (e.g. it was calling subagents and printing some thinking messages). That said, yes, it is pretty common for me to wait 10, 20 and sometimes even 30 minutes without steering the model or looking at what its doing. I usually write a pretty detailed prompt at the start that describes the issue, the usecases, the testing to do and the definition of success; then I sometimes ask it to draft a plan and give it a read, but after that I just press enter, let it run and come back when it's done. In the end I do a manual review, both of the code and the functionality, but most of the time I get exactly what I wanted.
jdthedisciple 2mo ago
I recently had GPT 5.6 work on something for 54 minutes while I went to sleep
- MRiabov 2mo ago
  I had two agents work from 7pm to 6am today... a routine for me. Today we needed to migrate to a cheaper CI/CD provider and do a better robotic for a particular task. GPT-5.6 Sol.
roncesvalles 2mo ago
Usually, the longer the AI works on something the crappier its output because that means the context is getting filled up. If my AI prompt takes more than 5 minutes to execute, I'm almost certain to stop it and break up the task or be more specific about what files it should look at or what subtask it should tackle first. The people who let it run for hours are absolutely not getting anything worth keeping in the end.

throw1234567891 2mo ago

What's the app? nodejs todo app with a "database back end" in a text file, or a 1m line spaghetti code COBOL app from 1971?

phyzix5761 2mo ago

I had the same experience with Claude the other day. I asked it for something fairly simple and it used up my whole 5 hour quota without producing the answer. Felt like a total waste of time.

zeratax 2mo ago

kinda surprising to me after the macos web demo was apparently done on the $40 monthly coding plan which was like a 6 hour task