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Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive
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- burnt-resistor 2mo agoTechnofeudal overlords pick and choose what customers can lease temporarily when they erroneously believed they bought ownership.
- charcircuit 2mo ago>If you used this account for Minecraft, we regret to inform you that the game cannot be recovered. A new purchase will be required on a newly created account. Welcome to the club of people who Microsoft stole Minecraft from. They deleted my copy since I did not migrate my account in time.
- aetherspawn 2mo agoI’ve bought Minecraft like 5 times in my lifetime at this point if you could the multiple times I bought the OG version and lost access, then Microsoft accounts, then console versions… probably spent $150 buying Minecraft over and over
- AngryData 2mo agoAfter I migrated mine I still had to contact support and send a half dozen messages because I didn't verify my email after accepting the migration and the link expired.
- dismalaf 2mo agoMe too. But Minetest is good enough, plus way more performant.
- Qem 2mo agoRelated: https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/xbox/brazilian-court-orders-microsoft-to-restore-a-gamers-account-and-digital-library-after-it-told-him-to-rebuy-his-games https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/xbox/brazilian-cour...
- lousken 2mo agoEven enterprise M365 solutions dont have backups unless you pay extra. Always have your own separate backup, ideally offline.
- ocdtrekkie 2mo agoThis is one of those things a shockingly large number of businesses do not understand. The cloud has been sold as magic, people don't realize you have all of the same needs as you do on-premise, you're just also paying rent.
- lousken 2mo agoOften they do not even know where the data is. It only becomes a problem if it is not available all of a sudden. My most recent - "I can't search my mailbox because exchange online is broken?" - new outlook + 180days offline cache max + online only search
- LightBug1 2mo agoWhat a bunch of wankers ... Timely reminder to back every fucking thing up. Trust none of these valley assholes to do the right thing. Just make sure YOU do the right thing.
- HeavyStorm 2mo agoWho the fuck designs these flows...
- Simulacra 2mo agoSomeone who knows that there's absolutely nothing this guy can do about it. Maybe he could sue, but really if a major company like Microsoft, or Google, decides to delete all of your data, and doesn't want to give it back, there's really nothing you can do about it. We really do need a law protecting consumer's data from arbitrary deletion.
- nhinck2 2mo agoSome random Brazilian disagrees.
- oliyoung 2mo agoIt's designed by committee, with n stakeholders with n+1 opinions and motivations and pressures from other business units over 17 workshops and governance decisions
- BeetleB 2mo agoThis is why I always ensure I have a big enough HD. I've used my current cloud backup for almost 15 years, and am really happy with it. But I never rely on them exclusively. If they go out of business tomorrow, I still have all the data locally! And of course, if my HD crashes, I sync back all the really important stuff. (OK, I would lose prior revisions of a file - I can live with that).
- b112 2mo agoI don't know about in this case, but I've heard of both Apple and Microsoft "cloudifying" then deleting local files just found on your drive. I think with Apple, it was music. The lack of control with closed platforms is staggering. Best make those offline bsckups.
- BeetleB 2mo agoWith Microsoft, you can control it - they have to let you control - at least for enterprise use. I assume Apple give you control as well. Sane people like me use Linux, though. > Best make those offline bsckups. I have that too! A separate HD that I mount and clone to once a week.
- jagged-chisel 2mo agoThat's only if you point the cloud at the directory with the files. For example, if your ~/Documents is on iCloud, it'll happily remove the copy from the actual ~/Documents folder after syncing to the cloud. However, if you have an external drive at /Volumes/MYSHTUFF, you do not point iCloud at /Volumes/MYSHTUFF. You maintain a copy of ~/Documents at /Volume/MYSHTUFF/Documents. Maybe you use that as your primary work space an sync to ~/Documents periodically. For some apps and workflows (Logic projects, git repos), you don't want your live copy to be the cloud-sync'd copy. Same with Apple Music. Keep your MP3s on an external drive, place a copy on the internal drive, drag the internal copy onto the Music app.
- Gigachad 2mo agoIt's called Virtual Files on macos. In general it's a very useful feature because it keeps files local while they are being accessed which makes them super snappy to work with, and then offloads them automatically when disk space is low. It does mean you need a separate backup process though.
- Simulacra 2mo agoBaby pictures.. That's really sad… Reminds me of when the executive editor of wired magazine, Matt Honan, trusted all of his baby pictures and movies to iCloud only for it to get hacked and have it all deleted. Always have that off-line back up.
- anonymars 2mo ago3-2-1 rule still alive and well 3 copies, 2 different media, 1 off-site But also, what a fucking disgrace, Microsoft Edit to add: cloud plus synced hard drives do not count as separate copies
- oliyoung 2mo agoThis is a good opportunity to shill for Immich https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48761944 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48761944 With the barest of config, it's almost a drop-in replacement
- tapoxi 2mo agoI bought a Synology Beestation just for this purpose. I don't need it to do anything else, just keep my pictures backed up.
- robotnikman 2mo agoAnother reason why no one should use OneDrive and ignore all the damn prompts by Windows telling you to use it.
- self_awareness 2mo agoA bitter reminder for all of us that we don't own digital content at all.
- tintor 2mo agoUnless you download it to your own hardware.
- self_awareness 2mo agoStill DRM can revoke rights, depends on what form we download it as, but yeah, downloading locally is generally much better than keeping it "in the cloud" (which is just someone else's computer).
- andor 2mo agoSince he spent Euros, he must be somewhere on the EU. This is a GDPR violation and I bet he can reach actual people that are able to help by mailing their GDPR legal contact.
- Glandalf 2mo agoCheck the TOS, it was never the user’s account.
- thin_carapace 2mo agomicrosoft "permanently suspended (his) account ... (to) ensure (his) data remains protected". but microsoft cannot give him his data. therefore microsoft stole his personal property and are protecting it for their own use. this is legal because he agreed to it. everybody has to use windows, and microsoft account creation is now forced by windows - therefore I call this slavery coercion
- bryanrasmussen 2mo ago>everybody has to use windows I don't. What makes me so special!?
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- Glandalf 2mo agoGrow a spine, LOL. It was never, ever his account.
- thin_carapace 2mo agoI consider it appropriate to stand up for those who haven't had the fortune to be educated as to the extent of slavery agreed to by clicking that little check box during sign up. i find it amusing, you calling me spineless for standing up for the uneducated. are you really that callous or was this simply an opportunity for a drive by? you do know the average person is forced into this flow by windows sign up right?
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- oliyoung 2mo agoMan, I love the PlayStation is going purely digital, who needs physical media for the games or movies you buy, nothing like this ever happens
- OJFord 2mo agoThat's a compelling argument (or for how it should be but I bet it isn't) for local play I suppose, but surely the volume's in online multiplayer, where physical media really doesn't save you because you're reliant on server etc. anyway. (And arguably why not download the game assets or whatever if you're going to necessarily play connected anyway.)
- amanaplanacanal 2mo agoPretty sure they were referring to the more than 500 movies that PlayStation deleted after people had purchased them.
- OJFord 2mo agoI forgot about that (and missed 'or movies'), but the news this week was that they'd stop making physical games, download only.
- basilikum 2mo agoThis has nothing to do with physical vs "digital" (CDs are digital anyway), but with owning. CDs can have DRM and only work with keys from whitelisted systems that might even have to authenticate online or trigger a time bomb and wipe their keys and downloads can be in a DRM free format that can be copied, archived and played on any capable device forever.
- fragmede 2mo agoHow're they gonna do that to an offline system like the PS2 or NES? Why should I simply just give up the rights I had on those systems because Sony and Microsoft want more money?
- munchler 2mo ago> "This action is irreversible and ensures that your data remains protected." This amounts to "We deleted all your data in order to keep it safe." WTF.
- BrenBarn 2mo agoIt became necessary to delete the data to save it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_B%E1%BA%BFn_Tre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_B%E1%BA%BFn_Tre)
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- SchemaLoad 2mo agoPersonally I would much rather Google delete my files than hand them to an attacker. I can restore them from a backup. Tech companies need to do better at encouraging users to keep their own local backup alongside the cloud one.
- johnea 2mo ago#1 This sucks #2 This is the personal version of what europe is going through now, with the realization that those cloudy cloudy services may be convenient, but don't bet your life on one. Keep a local backup!!! In fact, local backup first, with the cloud as a backup of your backup.
- dismalaf 2mo agoMicrosoft doing Microsoft things. That being said, I hope this gets enough visibility to force Microsoft to be better. Doubt it.
- Gigachad 2mo agoI could understand locking the files. Having this compromised would be devastating and you should have a backup of them elsewhere. But locking the games out is unacceptable since you can not back these up and they are not sensitive data. At the very least Microsoft should either offer a new account with all the purchases included, or a full refund.
- CSMastermind 2mo agoBack in college, I did a hackathon where I striped data across different clouds like OneDrive and Dropbox so that even if one of the providers went down you would still be able to recover your data. Had the additional benefit of no single provider being able to read your files because none of them had the full data set. Ended up not pursuing it but every time I see a story like this I think I should have.
- esikich 2mo agoIf you're talking consumer, there are a plethora of solutions already that are much simpler. If you're talking enterprise, there's no way the cost will make sense for TBs of data as enterprise backup solutions have existed since forever.
- ColdStream 2mo agoI mean it couldn't be any worse than a stripped RAID setup and a HDD decides to blow up.
- aleksandrm 2mo agoI truly hope you get this resolved if it is at all salvageable. The more stories I hear like this the less I am inclined to do any kind of backups with these companies because they are notorious for not giving a single fuck.
- jherskovic 2mo agoHave a TrueNAS server at home with a bunch of drives in a RAID-Z array. Backups go there. My pictures, which are probably my single most important item, are also there but get cross-backed up to a very good friend’s NAS in a different city. And his to mine. My wife’s backups also go on BackBlaze because she would be much, much, much less tolerant of a local glitch than I would. TL;DR local-first backups here. Time Machine makes it trivial except when it falls on it face and has to start over. Highly recommended if you can put up with replacing a hard drive every few years.
- case_ratchet 2mo agoYeah, of course you should keep your own backups of important files, but we’re in a time that tech companies—including Microsoft—are causing hardware prices to skyrocket. Price out a beefy home NAS in 2023 prices vs today. It’s absurd.
- rekabis 2mo agoMy good, when will people finally realize that local accounts are the only rational option? Like, do people have to learn in such a needlessly painful manner?
- COMMENT___ 2mo agoSelf-host your data. I like Immich for personal photos: https://immich.app https://immich.app. And VisualDrive Server in corporate environment as a self-hosted replacement for cloud-based OneDrive: https://www.axiorema.com/visualdrive-server/ https://www.axiorema.com/visualdrive-server/.
- butz 2mo agoIt is not "your account", it is literrally called "Microsoft account".
- apple4ever 2mo agoThis should be illegal. No two ways about it. Companies should not be allowed to do this.