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Why is music so much easier for AI than code?

• measurablefunc 2mo ago
  I recommend you look into Gell-Mann amnesia.
  • ben_w 2mo ago
    Or Dunning Kruger. I like messing around with Suno, but I know I don't have much musical taste, yet even so when I try to push it to be even a little weird it fails utterly: a call for "one minute" of animal noises is rendered as 90 seconds of electric guitar; asking for every verse to be in a different accent from around the world is rendered as *at best* two, but usually one; asking for one specific British regional accent often comes up American, and when it actually is British it's one of two specific accents that's either "posh person trying to be middle class" or "posh person trying to be working class". I was mostly happy to turn out a meme version of the recent SoftBank slides as a parodic James Bond theme, but even then, no goose honk noise.
• Gooblebrai 2mo ago
  > It seems that music is so hard, why is it ai has already surpassed us there but not in code? Seems that code is easier. I note by this that you don't seem to have experience in music? Because in that case, you are not equipped to judge the quality of the song at some levels beyond a listen. The same way that someone not technical can't judge the code output of the LLM and will just be impressed by the functional output (i.e. is the site working)
• gangstaai 2mo ago
  Not certain but being a programmer and a musician i can guess. Theres certain trends about a pop song, tempo, drama, layering, effects, they can mimic hits, use predictable verse/chorus/verse/chorus/tag, etc. I think AI is great at code as well, completely runs circles around me in many domains.
• speedgoose 2mo ago
  Popular music follows well known recipes. Pick a scale and a tuning, a rythme signature, some chords and a progression , some random melodic pattern, a set of instruments that fit the target genre, and it will sound okay. Now, it’s much harder to make original and musically interesting music.
• worldsavior 2mo ago
  Bot post.
  • htlemur_bobby 2mo ago
    lol I actually am not a bot. I took piano lessons since I was a kid thru high school and I have sat at the piano for hour and hours and hours. I was just so stunned not only by the creativity but the subtlety with which it plays the notes each one perfectly stacatto or legato perfect touch… I was never that good but I did it for so many long hours I just appreciate its skill so much.
• hash0 2mo ago
  Seems to me that both music and language fall into the same category of "patterns whose consumption will trigger a highly subjective experience (pleasurable or repulsive)". AIs as pattern matching machines can do this pretty well by now. Coding, however, is a separate category, one where cold, hard logic reigns supreme. Code is not consumed to illicit a subjective response but to work, fullfil its job - which might explain the gap between these two.
• NotepadDev 2mo ago
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• Rochus 2mo ago
  Sounds like English film and television series music from the seventies (e.g. "All Creatures Great and Small"). It's nice and surprising (in that Suno was able to create it). But not "more beautiful than any song I have ever heard in my life, ever" ;-)
• al_borland 2mo ago
  > more beautiful than any song I have ever heard in my life, ever. There is no way this is an honest statement, unless this is the first song you've ever heard. I can only assume you're a bot from the marketing department at Suno.
  • htlemur_bobby 2mo ago
    Haha no I’m not from Suno I don’t work there. I took piano lessons as a kid so I just appreciate link a lot I guess. I just felt like it was such. Beautiful song.
• airtisan 2mo ago
  Judgment and taste. I’ll still repeat those words. As a musician and music critic, you’ll spot the flaws in AI.
• rishikeshs 2mo ago
  Great PR! cc: @dang
  • htlemur_bobby 2mo ago
    What does that mean?