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Immich is such a no-brainer replacement for Apple Photos or Google Photos, combined with VPN like Tailscale, it's almost a drop in replacement

ivanjermakov 3mo ago
Beware that migrating back from Immich to iCloud/Google is not something Immich cares about. There is no "download all" anywhere, best way is to go to the server and get raw files from there. https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365
- Panda4 3mo ago
  A download button would be great but the files are already stored on the device you can copy them with a usb or go on the device and upload it directly.
- stogot 3mo ago
  There’s no download all in apple photos either unless they added it
  - Terretta 3mo ago
    And yet, the same is true for Apple photos about ease of export: If you set the pref to keep originals locally, they're all on your drive, in original form, as well as the derived versions including caches of raw to jpeg, resolutions, and edited versions. That said, Apple Photos does let you export even if only in cloud. Open the library, select all, and File > Export ... > Export Unmodified Originals. It pauses for a second or two on my quarter million images, but is then happy to comply.
    - konart 3mo ago
      Or you can get all you data from https://privacy.apple.com/account https://privacy.apple.com/account
  - buildbot 3mo ago
    CMD-A then export all X unmodified originals works fine
    - ivanjermakov 3mo ago
      Except when your library is huge: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/15sa6vg/how_to_download_10000_photos_from_icloud/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/15sa6vg/how_to_downloa...
  - konart 3mo ago
    You can download all you Apple data now, including photos. https://privacy.apple.com/account https://privacy.apple.com/account -> "Get a copy of your data" Then you will need to chose the maximum size of an archive part and wait for link to a download page.
  - ivanjermakov 3mo ago
    Yes, that's even more stupid! Best way to export photos from iCloud if you don't have mac is to use iCloud from the browser and bulk download from there, but it has a 10k files-per download limit! It also doesn't allow you to select all and partiton download this way, I had to manually increase selection until it's 10k and remember where I started.
- wsor4035 3mo ago
  maybe I fail to see your point, but following the link, then https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/5068 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/5068 is referenced which is resolved by pr https://github.com/immich-app/immich/pull/18878 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/pull/18878 adding bulk download functionality (may have manually select all to bulk download, unsure). At any rate I don't see where they say explicitly that they are against it
  - ivanjermakov 3mo ago
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- willcmcc 3mo ago
  what do you mean download all? its your server over your files. If you want them, go get them! Or just point google / apple / whatever upload at your library directory.
- tclancy 3mo ago
  They’re literally on a disk drive I can physically touch. I think I can figure out a migration strategy for that.
  - vachina 3mo ago
    This is symptoms of a chronically cloud-native brain. What is a file system?
  - Groxx 3mo ago
    The immediately obvious and simple to handle on-disk format for everything I cared about was one of the things that convinced me to give it a try. Well-crafted exporters are great and all, but I really like being confident that I can convert it by hand even if the company ceases to exist. Backups are easy too: you can very reasonably just rsync the library folder, and it'll be recoverable from that alone (I tried it! Worked great). You'll lose accounts and image-content search and iirc faces (possibly painful), but most of that is trivially rebuilt or not very interesting for single-person scenarios.
  - ivanjermakov 3mo ago
    It's tricky with iOS. Plugging iPhone into a server is stupid. Adding server as a network storage in Files app is smarter, but downloading photos this way does not guarantee deduplication. Would be great if Immmich iOS app had a restore functionality as convenient as existing backup functionality.
    - mvdtnz 3mo ago
      You migrate from the server, not the client. You seem confused about what Immich is.
- saintfire 3mo ago
  Maybe I'm missing something but the linked discussion has a link to a closed issue that links a PR that added the feature you say is missing.
- mvdtnz 3mo ago
  It's just files on a disc drive. Why do you need a button for this?
- Vaslo 3mo ago
  I put all my files in a folder. I’d simply get them there. No concern about this at all.
Panda4 3mo ago
Is there any side effects of leaving the phone connected to Tailscale VPN all day?
- ls612 3mo ago
  No lots of people including myself do this for homelab access purposes it just works (tm).
- kpozin 3mo ago
  If Tailscale is on, I can't concurrently run a DNS-blocking local VPN, so I see ads in mobile Chrome.
  - anon7000 3mo ago
    Could host it in the tailnet?
    - dawnerd 3mo ago
      You can but it’s a lot slower.
  - philips 3mo ago
    I use nextdns with tailscale. https://tailscale.com/docs/integrations/nextdns https://tailscale.com/docs/integrations/nextdns
  - ls612 3mo ago
    Put a Pihole container on your homelab which you have the Tailscale exit node on and then set it as the forced Tailnet DNS.
- KomoD 3mo ago
  Could impact battery usage, possibly? But the way I do access Immich externally is not with Tailscale directly on my phone but involves exposing a caddy instance, running on a $1 VPS, to the internet. If requests include a specific very long header (which I randomly made up), it then forwards those requests to my real Immich instance, which runs on my NAS. Headers can be configured within the mobile app. It has worked really well for me so far.
chillfox 3mo ago
I only wish it would support nested albums (or albums in folders) so it could be an easy replacement for lightroom cloud as well. I have all of my photos organized like this: `events -> year/month - holiday -> (album_1, ...)`. and: `home town -> year -> (album_1, ...)`. Photos will be in multiple albums, and there will be edits as well. And I need to track the picked/rejected state as well (and filter on it). Only reason I haven't moved over to Immich yet is because I am struggling to map my photo organization onto it's way of doing things in a way that's nice. So far my attempts have been unwieldy.
- oindividuo 2mo ago
  You can use tags for this, they nest nicely
l11r 3mo ago
Are there any side effects of leaving Immich public? I think people overestimate the risks. Just update your stuff regularly, follow simple rules, and set up something like CrowdSec. I know it's simpler to just use Tailscale and similar tools, but recently I see the trend that people don't even consider otherwise.
- EvanAnderson 3mo ago
  I'd throw it behind Wireguard, personally. Belt and suspenders. (I keep meaning to look at it and keep kicking it down the road.)
  - paweladamczuk 3mo ago
    That's what I do. I have Wireguard connected on my iPhone at all times. LLMs became so good that I don't trust a codebase like Immich to have ports to my server exposed publicly. I put everything behind Wireguard to limit the number of lines of code that might bring down my setup.
- liotier 3mo ago
  > Are there any side effects of leaving Immich public ? Yes: it is necessary to share selected albums through public URL.
  - V__ 3mo ago
    There is a project, which proxies album requests to a private immich instance, if one doesn't want to expose it: https://github.com/alangrainger/immich-public-proxy https://github.com/alangrainger/immich-public-proxy
kouru225 3mo ago
I’ve been using photoprism. Should I switch?
- reddalo 3mo ago
  Give it a try, Immich is truly wonderful. Rich in features, polished UX, it's now better than Google Photos.
- domh 3mo ago
  I'm in the same boat, and have been meaning to try immich but slightly worried about migration effort. Should I import fresh into Immich or setup my existing photoprism as an external library? I think the former is probably correct, but the latter might be easier? Anyone have experience with this? I haven't done much modification or album creation in photoprism, so am happy to start from scratch on that front.

ivanjermakov 3mo ago

Beware that migrating back from Immich to iCloud/Google is not something Immich cares about. There is no "download all" anywhere, best way is to go to the server and get raw files from there. https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/14365

Panda4 3mo ago
A download button would be great but the files are already stored on the device you can copy them with a usb or go on the device and upload it directly.
stogot 3mo ago
There’s no download all in apple photos either unless they added it
- Terretta 3mo ago
  And yet, the same is true for Apple photos about ease of export: If you set the pref to keep originals locally, they're all on your drive, in original form, as well as the derived versions including caches of raw to jpeg, resolutions, and edited versions. That said, Apple Photos does let you export even if only in cloud. Open the library, select all, and File > Export ... > Export Unmodified Originals. It pauses for a second or two on my quarter million images, but is then happy to comply.
  - konart 3mo ago
    Or you can get all you data from https://privacy.apple.com/account https://privacy.apple.com/account
- buildbot 3mo ago
  CMD-A then export all X unmodified originals works fine
  - ivanjermakov 3mo ago
    Except when your library is huge: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/15sa6vg/how_to_download_10000_photos_from_icloud/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/15sa6vg/how_to_downloa...
- konart 3mo ago
  You can download all you Apple data now, including photos. https://privacy.apple.com/account https://privacy.apple.com/account -> "Get a copy of your data" Then you will need to chose the maximum size of an archive part and wait for link to a download page.
- ivanjermakov 3mo ago
  Yes, that's even more stupid! Best way to export photos from iCloud if you don't have mac is to use iCloud from the browser and bulk download from there, but it has a 10k files-per download limit! It also doesn't allow you to select all and partiton download this way, I had to manually increase selection until it's 10k and remember where I started.
wsor4035 3mo ago
maybe I fail to see your point, but following the link, then https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/5068 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/5068 is referenced which is resolved by pr https://github.com/immich-app/immich/pull/18878 https://github.com/immich-app/immich/pull/18878 adding bulk download functionality (may have manually select all to bulk download, unsure). At any rate I don't see where they say explicitly that they are against it
- ivanjermakov 3mo ago
  [dead]
willcmcc 3mo ago
what do you mean download all? its your server over your files. If you want them, go get them! Or just point google / apple / whatever upload at your library directory.
tclancy 3mo ago
They’re literally on a disk drive I can physically touch. I think I can figure out a migration strategy for that.
- vachina 3mo ago
  This is symptoms of a chronically cloud-native brain. What is a file system?
- Groxx 3mo ago
  The immediately obvious and simple to handle on-disk format for everything I cared about was one of the things that convinced me to give it a try. Well-crafted exporters are great and all, but I really like being confident that I can convert it by hand even if the company ceases to exist. Backups are easy too: you can very reasonably just rsync the library folder, and it'll be recoverable from that alone (I tried it! Worked great). You'll lose accounts and image-content search and iirc faces (possibly painful), but most of that is trivially rebuilt or not very interesting for single-person scenarios.
- ivanjermakov 3mo ago
  It's tricky with iOS. Plugging iPhone into a server is stupid. Adding server as a network storage in Files app is smarter, but downloading photos this way does not guarantee deduplication. Would be great if Immmich iOS app had a restore functionality as convenient as existing backup functionality.
  - mvdtnz 3mo ago
    You migrate from the server, not the client. You seem confused about what Immich is.
saintfire 3mo ago
Maybe I'm missing something but the linked discussion has a link to a closed issue that links a PR that added the feature you say is missing.
mvdtnz 3mo ago
It's just files on a disc drive. Why do you need a button for this?
Vaslo 3mo ago
I put all my files in a folder. I’d simply get them there. No concern about this at all.

Panda4 3mo ago

Is there any side effects of leaving the phone connected to Tailscale VPN all day?

ls612 3mo ago
No lots of people including myself do this for homelab access purposes it just works (tm).
kpozin 3mo ago
If Tailscale is on, I can't concurrently run a DNS-blocking local VPN, so I see ads in mobile Chrome.
- anon7000 3mo ago
  Could host it in the tailnet?
  - dawnerd 3mo ago
    You can but it’s a lot slower.
- philips 3mo ago
  I use nextdns with tailscale. https://tailscale.com/docs/integrations/nextdns https://tailscale.com/docs/integrations/nextdns
- ls612 3mo ago
  Put a Pihole container on your homelab which you have the Tailscale exit node on and then set it as the forced Tailnet DNS.
KomoD 3mo ago
Could impact battery usage, possibly? But the way I do access Immich externally is not with Tailscale directly on my phone but involves exposing a caddy instance, running on a $1 VPS, to the internet. If requests include a specific very long header (which I randomly made up), it then forwards those requests to my real Immich instance, which runs on my NAS. Headers can be configured within the mobile app. It has worked really well for me so far.

chillfox 3mo ago

I only wish it would support nested albums (or albums in folders) so it could be an easy replacement for lightroom cloud as well. I have all of my photos organized like this: `events -> year/month - holiday -> (album_1, ...)`. and: `home town -> year -> (album_1, ...)`. Photos will be in multiple albums, and there will be edits as well. And I need to track the picked/rejected state as well (and filter on it). Only reason I haven't moved over to Immich yet is because I am struggling to map my photo organization onto it's way of doing things in a way that's nice. So far my attempts have been unwieldy.

oindividuo 2mo ago
You can use tags for this, they nest nicely

l11r 3mo ago

Are there any side effects of leaving Immich public? I think people overestimate the risks. Just update your stuff regularly, follow simple rules, and set up something like CrowdSec. I know it's simpler to just use Tailscale and similar tools, but recently I see the trend that people don't even consider otherwise.

EvanAnderson 3mo ago
I'd throw it behind Wireguard, personally. Belt and suspenders. (I keep meaning to look at it and keep kicking it down the road.)
- paweladamczuk 3mo ago
  That's what I do. I have Wireguard connected on my iPhone at all times. LLMs became so good that I don't trust a codebase like Immich to have ports to my server exposed publicly. I put everything behind Wireguard to limit the number of lines of code that might bring down my setup.
liotier 3mo ago
> Are there any side effects of leaving Immich public ? Yes: it is necessary to share selected albums through public URL.
- V__ 3mo ago
  There is a project, which proxies album requests to a private immich instance, if one doesn't want to expose it: https://github.com/alangrainger/immich-public-proxy https://github.com/alangrainger/immich-public-proxy

kouru225 3mo ago

I’ve been using photoprism. Should I switch?

reddalo 3mo ago
Give it a try, Immich is truly wonderful. Rich in features, polished UX, it's now better than Google Photos.
domh 3mo ago
I'm in the same boat, and have been meaning to try immich but slightly worried about migration effort. Should I import fresh into Immich or setup my existing photoprism as an external library? I think the former is probably correct, but the latter might be easier? Anyone have experience with this? I haven't done much modification or album creation in photoprism, so am happy to start from scratch on that front.