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I feel like I'm loosing my mind with the way people are falling for the marketing with every iteration. Is it better, sure but it's still just a LLM.
by human305893 3mo ago
I feel like I'm loosing my mind with the way people are falling for the marketing with every iteration. Is it better, sure but it's still just a LLM.
- latentsea 3mo agoThese days an LLM + a harness can one-shot playable Minecraft clones. This tech has come a long way since it was first released.
- applicative 3mo agoYou are saying: it turns out that one-shot playable Minecraft clones are actually pretty simple. Maybe it seemed a hard problem to programmers, but why not just say that the verifiable-rewards training has shown that their skill is unusually simple?
- senordevnyc 3mo agoWhat a great example of the no true Scotsman fallacy.
- latentsea 3mo agoI am saying 3 years ago there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell I could one shot a playable Minecraft clone, and there has never been a snowballs chance in hell a human developer could do so in 45 minutes. The difficulty of the task and human performance on that task hasn't changed. LLMs performance on that task has changed dramatically.
- 8note 3mo agoit could almost certainly regurgitate something like minetest its in the training data, probably many times, and it was then, too
- latentsea 3mo agoAnd that's exactly why 3 years ago we saw people one shotting it in 45 minutes :)
- staticman2 3mo ago"Some idiot on Twitter did a game tech demo" has been a thing since, like GPT 3.5 or 4.0?
- latentsea 3mo agoIt has. We can see 3.5 started with text adventure games https://medium.com/@duncanariey/using-chatgpt-to-make-the-ittiest-bittiest-text-based-adventure-game-f642e8da4dad https://medium.com/@duncanariey/using-chatgpt-to-make-the-it... and with 4.0 it moved up to pong https://x.com/skirano/status/1635736107949195278 https://x.com/skirano/status/1635736107949195278 As the generations increase, so too has the complexity of the games it can one-shot.
- staticman2 3mo agoBut nobody has nailed "this is a game anyone wants to play" or "professional game development life cycles are shorter" so it's not particularly impressive. I'm still waiting for any evidence of LLM economic impact in the real world.
- latentsea 3mo agoYeah, well I doubt any economic impact will from LLMs will ever come. I doubt anyone is working on nailing those things as we speak. I doubt the results my team and I are getting with agentic engineering are real. I doubt anyone can take increasingly better tools and translate that to economic value.
- staticman2 3mo agoIf you're doing such amazing things why the need to gush about Minecraft tweets?
- cornholio 3mo agoCan't wait to see what unusually simple Erdos problem LLMs will expose next, hiding in plain sight for decades and seemingly intractable for professional mathematicians who weren't aware just how simple the problem was.