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Maybe if marketing people stopped using the incredibly generic term "AI", and started actually saying what something is, it might work better. When you say "thi

Maybe if marketing people stopped using the incredibly generic term "AI", and started actually saying what something is, it might work better. When you say "this app is powered by AI", do you mean Skynet, an LLM, or a basic machine learning system?

watwut 3mo ago
Literally always LLM. AI is now synonym for LLM, regardless of what it meant before. Just like crypto is now synonym for e-currency and does not mean cryptography anymore. People are not confused about these.
- progval 3mo ago
  It also means Diffusion in the context of images and videos.
  - fwip 3mo ago
    Or anything that used to be called machine learning, in the context of some consumer appliances. Or sometimes basic image recognition.
- voidUpdate 3mo ago
  Apart from when they're talking about AI generated videos or images, or the marketing people talking about an AI powered rice cooker https://tefalph.com/cooking-appliances/easy-rice-plus-rice-cooker/ https://tefalph.com/cooking-appliances/easy-rice-plus-rice-c... or people watching films where an AI takes over
- williamdclt 3mo ago
  No that's not true. I've worked at a company whose product involved some decently advanced computer vision, marketed as AI (which isn't incorrect). I've also seen companies that were doing machine learning before the LLM boom, who remarketed their machine-learning-based product as AI (which isn't incorrect).
  - akdev1l 3mo ago
    If you put AI on a project the average consumer will think it’s using ChatGPT or something like that I mean I agree with you just that the popular perception of that word has changed
ben_w 3mo ago
AI categorisation is second nature to us software engineers, it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows the architecture for a transformer and one or two CNNs. https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/
lukeschlather 3mo ago
What's a "basic machine learning system?" is this a question of the size of the model or the algorithm? Which algorithms are basic? If you've got an ensemble of models that includes multiple transformers not all of which are LLMs as well as CNNs, how do you think the marketing people should express that?

watwut 3mo ago

Literally always LLM. AI is now synonym for LLM, regardless of what it meant before. Just like crypto is now synonym for e-currency and does not mean cryptography anymore. People are not confused about these.

progval 3mo ago
It also means Diffusion in the context of images and videos.
- fwip 3mo ago
  Or anything that used to be called machine learning, in the context of some consumer appliances. Or sometimes basic image recognition.
voidUpdate 3mo ago
Apart from when they're talking about AI generated videos or images, or the marketing people talking about an AI powered rice cooker https://tefalph.com/cooking-appliances/easy-rice-plus-rice-cooker/ https://tefalph.com/cooking-appliances/easy-rice-plus-rice-c... or people watching films where an AI takes over
williamdclt 3mo ago
No that's not true. I've worked at a company whose product involved some decently advanced computer vision, marketed as AI (which isn't incorrect). I've also seen companies that were doing machine learning before the LLM boom, who remarketed their machine-learning-based product as AI (which isn't incorrect).
- akdev1l 3mo ago
  If you put AI on a project the average consumer will think it’s using ChatGPT or something like that I mean I agree with you just that the popular perception of that word has changed

ben_w 3mo ago

AI categorisation is second nature to us software engineers, it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows the architecture for a transformer and one or two CNNs. https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/

lukeschlather 3mo ago

What's a "basic machine learning system?" is this a question of the size of the model or the algorithm? Which algorithms are basic? If you've got an ensemble of models that includes multiple transformers not all of which are LLMs as well as CNNs, how do you think the marketing people should express that?