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Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been

by Oreb 4mo ago

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easier to get into the zone than ever before. I remember someone describing the Vision Pro as the equivalent of noise-canceling headphones for the eyes, which is spot on. I suppose I am lucky that I don’t have any problems with the weight of the comfort, except on hot days. I’ve been an Apple enthusiast since the 1980s, but I can’t even remember the last time I was as excited about an Apple product as I am about the Vision Pro. I hope it will survive, come down in price, and launch in more countries.

ra 4mo ago
I've not tried one. What are the drawbacks? eye strain? discomfort?
elisbce 4mo ago
Can't imagine how strong your neck must be. For me, the weight alone is a deal breaker.
- zerr 4mo ago
  Why not have a battery externally, attached with a long cable?
  - fh973 4mo ago
    Balance presumably.
    - amelius 4mo ago
      If __they__ can do it: https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/indian-little-girls-carrying-on-their-heads-water-from-well-gm539820798-96270139 https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/indian-little-girls-carr...
      - applfanboysbgon 4mo ago
        It's not a matter of "can" you do it, it's a matter of needing to do it. Do you make a habit of carrying a gallon of water on your head? You probably don't need to. I don't need to either. I certainly don't need to spend $3500 for the privilege of carrying a gallon of water on my head. Doing so is not necessary or beneficial to my life in any way. I could do it if my life depended on it, but it doesn't.
      - wlonkly 4mo ago
        If the Vision Pro was balanced on top of the head, it would definitely be easier to sustain for a longer period of time, but the weight is attached to the front. That means you're holding it up with your neck muscles instead of straight down your spine.
  - chrizel 4mo ago
    The Vision Pro battery is already external, isn't it? But the device is heavy anyway, I think because of the used materials like glass.
    - amelius 4mo ago
      Maybe they should add a helium balloon. Like this guy did with his bag: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fvfvUzy64sw https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fvfvUzy64sw Not sure how convenient it is when working in an airplane, though. Maybe airplanes could be fitted with elastic straps that pull your VR device up?
mchinen 4mo ago
Have you tried a Quest 3 for similar purposes? Curious how they compare.
- arianvanp 4mo ago
  I've tried and it's okay with Virtual desktop but the resolution is like on the uncanny line of fine and not good enough. The quest being much lighter makes it nice though (but you should buy a third party headstrap that doesn't suck)
  - enbugger 4mo ago
    Virtual Desktop is the only app which makes Quest 3 usable for work. And it is bad thing because it is available only on Win and Mac. Unfortunately, Linux alternatives' video encoding/postprocessing is inferior. Judging by my WiVRn experience. Hopefully that changes
- dostick 4mo ago
  Quest3 simply don’t have resolution required for the qualitative jump to have displays in VR. when you can have same experience on a regular MacBook display, then better to use MacBook.
- culopatin 4mo ago
  My room gets pretty bright in the afternoon and my screen sucks in that environment. I’ve been using the quest 3 and while I don’t think it’s perfect from a software point of view (like why do the windows snap at x distances? Why can’t I pick?) it’s pretty good. It lets me have a smallish display on my desk and when I need it, I have 3 displays in VR. Compared to the cost of the apple device, you can upgrade 3 times before you get to the cost of the apple vision.
ozgung 4mo ago
How is yor eyesight? Did it change?
- sharaththegeek 4mo ago
  Same question. I have tried it a few times and weight hasn't been a concern. I am more worried about long-term effects on the eyes.
- tasoeur 4mo ago
  I’ve worked in VR for a long time (including visionPro) and my eyesight definitely got worse. The most ironic thing to me is how iPhone has this screen distance warning telling you to move the screen further from your face while Vision Pro is literally an iPhone strapped to your face.
  - mgrandl 4mo ago
    I was told the issue isn’t the physical distance of the screen to your eyes, but the distance of where your eyes are focusing? So in VR if you focus on an object a meter away it shouldn’t strain your eyes as much as a phone screen 10cm away? No idea if this is scientifically proven.
    - biinjo 4mo ago
      Your eyes are still looking at an object (roughly?) 10cm away from your face: the screens. Your eyes are not adjusting focus. Any focus (or blur) you see in VR is simulated depth. So yes, the issue is indeed the distance where your eyes are focussing, caused by the fact that they're constantly focussing on something very close to your face. My optician told me its like stretching your arm while holding something heavy. At first that's no problem. But eventually your muscles will start burning and you can't hold it and even when you relax your arm it still hurts if you held it for too long. As far as I'm aware there are no VR headsets yet that adjust the live generated depth vision based on the diaphragm of your eyes. That would be wild.
      - 4mo ago
amelius 4mo ago
What will you do when your Vision Pro breaks? Looks like nobody is working on something that can replace it.
- deleted 4mo ago
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- mgrandl 4mo ago
  Plenty of companies are working on VR/AR. There are awesome options that are already more suitable for work than the Vision Pro is.
polo 4mo ago
This is exactly my experience. I love my AVP, travel a lot, it’s awesome on the road and I enjoy using it at home as well. The last time I was this excited by a computer was the NeXT. No other device has fostered feelings of awe as the AVP.
mynameyeff 4mo ago
Interesting!

by Oreb 4mo ago

ra 4mo ago

I've not tried one. What are the drawbacks? eye strain? discomfort?

elisbce 4mo ago

Can't imagine how strong your neck must be. For me, the weight alone is a deal breaker.

zerr 4mo ago
Why not have a battery externally, attached with a long cable?
- fh973 4mo ago
  Balance presumably.
  - amelius 4mo ago
    If __they__ can do it: https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/indian-little-girls-carrying-on-their-heads-water-from-well-gm539820798-96270139 https://www.istockphoto.com/nl/foto/indian-little-girls-carr...
    - applfanboysbgon 4mo ago
      It's not a matter of "can" you do it, it's a matter of needing to do it. Do you make a habit of carrying a gallon of water on your head? You probably don't need to. I don't need to either. I certainly don't need to spend $3500 for the privilege of carrying a gallon of water on my head. Doing so is not necessary or beneficial to my life in any way. I could do it if my life depended on it, but it doesn't.
    - wlonkly 4mo ago
      If the Vision Pro was balanced on top of the head, it would definitely be easier to sustain for a longer period of time, but the weight is attached to the front. That means you're holding it up with your neck muscles instead of straight down your spine.
- chrizel 4mo ago
  The Vision Pro battery is already external, isn't it? But the device is heavy anyway, I think because of the used materials like glass.
  - amelius 4mo ago
    Maybe they should add a helium balloon. Like this guy did with his bag: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fvfvUzy64sw https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fvfvUzy64sw Not sure how convenient it is when working in an airplane, though. Maybe airplanes could be fitted with elastic straps that pull your VR device up?

mchinen 4mo ago

Have you tried a Quest 3 for similar purposes? Curious how they compare.

arianvanp 4mo ago
I've tried and it's okay with Virtual desktop but the resolution is like on the uncanny line of fine and not good enough. The quest being much lighter makes it nice though (but you should buy a third party headstrap that doesn't suck)
- enbugger 4mo ago
  Virtual Desktop is the only app which makes Quest 3 usable for work. And it is bad thing because it is available only on Win and Mac. Unfortunately, Linux alternatives' video encoding/postprocessing is inferior. Judging by my WiVRn experience. Hopefully that changes
dostick 4mo ago
Quest3 simply don’t have resolution required for the qualitative jump to have displays in VR. when you can have same experience on a regular MacBook display, then better to use MacBook.
culopatin 4mo ago
My room gets pretty bright in the afternoon and my screen sucks in that environment. I’ve been using the quest 3 and while I don’t think it’s perfect from a software point of view (like why do the windows snap at x distances? Why can’t I pick?) it’s pretty good. It lets me have a smallish display on my desk and when I need it, I have 3 displays in VR. Compared to the cost of the apple device, you can upgrade 3 times before you get to the cost of the apple vision.

ozgung 4mo ago

How is yor eyesight? Did it change?

sharaththegeek 4mo ago
Same question. I have tried it a few times and weight hasn't been a concern. I am more worried about long-term effects on the eyes.
tasoeur 4mo ago
I’ve worked in VR for a long time (including visionPro) and my eyesight definitely got worse. The most ironic thing to me is how iPhone has this screen distance warning telling you to move the screen further from your face while Vision Pro is literally an iPhone strapped to your face.
- mgrandl 4mo ago
  I was told the issue isn’t the physical distance of the screen to your eyes, but the distance of where your eyes are focusing? So in VR if you focus on an object a meter away it shouldn’t strain your eyes as much as a phone screen 10cm away? No idea if this is scientifically proven.
  - biinjo 4mo ago
    Your eyes are still looking at an object (roughly?) 10cm away from your face: the screens. Your eyes are not adjusting focus. Any focus (or blur) you see in VR is simulated depth. So yes, the issue is indeed the distance where your eyes are focussing, caused by the fact that they're constantly focussing on something very close to your face. My optician told me its like stretching your arm while holding something heavy. At first that's no problem. But eventually your muscles will start burning and you can't hold it and even when you relax your arm it still hurts if you held it for too long. As far as I'm aware there are no VR headsets yet that adjust the live generated depth vision based on the diaphragm of your eyes. That would be wild.
    - 4mo ago

amelius 4mo ago

What will you do when your Vision Pro breaks? Looks like nobody is working on something that can replace it.

deleted 4mo ago
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mgrandl 4mo ago
Plenty of companies are working on VR/AR. There are awesome options that are already more suitable for work than the Vision Pro is.

polo 4mo ago

This is exactly my experience. I love my AVP, travel a lot, it’s awesome on the road and I enjoy using it at home as well. The last time I was this excited by a computer was the NeXT. No other device has fostered feelings of awe as the AVP.

mynameyeff 4mo ago

Interesting!