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Google really can’t help themselves but to have some internal re-org kill off a public thing people are actively using. It’s honestly impressive how consistent

Google really can’t help themselves but to have some internal re-org kill off a public thing people are actively using. It’s honestly impressive how consistent they are.

brookst 4mo ago
The rest of out here watching usage and telemetry to decide where to invest, meanwhile, over at Google…
- wmf 4mo ago
  What if their telemetry shows very low usage? I've seen virtually no discussion of Gemini CLI online.
  - antonvs 4mo ago
    There are 13,700 forks of its repo on Github. If anything, I suspect closing the source for their coding agent may have been part of the goal.
    - bakugo 4mo ago
      Forks don't mean anything anymore, especially on an AI-related repo. 99% of them are automated.
    - ddalex 4mo ago
      If the repo is already forked, what difference does it make if Google supports it or not? The community can just continue development if they so choose
      - Raed667 4mo ago
        google can kill your account for using an unsupported harness when/if they choose
        dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        Complete bs. Gemini models are on OpenRouter just like any other models.
        dezgeg 4mo ago
        But then you have to pay by the token instead of the subsidized subscription prices
        geodel 4mo ago
        oh, so finally it is about money not open source.
      - antonvs 4mo ago
        It's the code they develop going forward that matters.
  - worthless-trash 4mo ago
    Whats to discuss, it works, it does the job, cant complain.
  - Spooky23 4mo ago
    There's a fair amount of enterprise usage. It's a really good product, despite the Claude hype. Anthropic is a PITA to deal with, and it's slow as shit weekday morning Eastern time.
    - markkitti 4mo ago
      Gemini CLI for Enterprise will continue. > If your organization uses Gemini CLI or our IDE extensions via a Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise license, or if your organization uses Gemini Code Assist for GitHub through Google Cloud, your access remains unchanged.
    - qaq 4mo ago
      I use all 3 compared to what do you think Gemini CLI is a good product? (my only use case for it now is triple checking specifications for drift inconsistencies beyond that I find it pretty lacking compared to codex and cc).
      - Spooky23 4mo ago
        I think for the average corporate person in a non-software company, the "out of box" experience is better with Gemini. It's also cheap. Once you get deeper into it, both Codex and Claude have better integrations with skills, etc. I sort of "discovered" skills via GStack and now use a few things, I find Claude's performance infuriating, but it can do more things. I happily pay $200 for Claude now, mostly for my own personal stuff. I think Gemini is better at external data sourcing and coding complex math. But note this is my anecdotal take, mostly in the context of hobby projects. I'm a journeyman AI slinger at best.
  - lukaslalinsky 4mo ago
    Except complaints that it's horrible, you mean?
debian3 4mo ago
The usual playbook is they rename it a few times first, then they kill it.
- cik 4mo ago
  Sometimes it becomes 11 different chat applications among the way.
  - Bilal_io 4mo ago
    It's technically a chat application. Except you're chatting with an LLM instead of friends and family.
    - Kwpolska 4mo ago
      And building a chat app is how you get promoted at Google.
- roryirvine 4mo ago
  And then later re-use the name for another product which is almost but not entirely unlike the original.
sbinnee 4mo ago
Another tombstone in Google Graveyard soon [1]. [1] https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- blcsntb 4mo ago
  Thanks
maipen 4mo ago
Even thought there are people using, it doesn’t mean they see a future in it. Google is the best when it comes to analytics and trends. If they see a product is expected to fail, which in this case it was, they simply kill it and move on instead of wasting resources saving a sinking ship. Of course, something could’ve been improved, but that’s just how they operate. I could be completely wrong though

Google really can’t help themselves but to have some internal re-org kill off a public thing people are actively using. It’s honestly impressive how consistent they are.

brookst 4mo ago

The rest of out here watching usage and telemetry to decide where to invest, meanwhile, over at Google…

wmf 4mo ago
What if their telemetry shows very low usage? I've seen virtually no discussion of Gemini CLI online.
- antonvs 4mo ago
  There are 13,700 forks of its repo on Github. If anything, I suspect closing the source for their coding agent may have been part of the goal.
  - bakugo 4mo ago
    Forks don't mean anything anymore, especially on an AI-related repo. 99% of them are automated.
  - ddalex 4mo ago
    If the repo is already forked, what difference does it make if Google supports it or not? The community can just continue development if they so choose
    - Raed667 4mo ago
      google can kill your account for using an unsupported harness when/if they choose
      - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        Complete bs. Gemini models are on OpenRouter just like any other models.
        dezgeg 4mo ago
        But then you have to pay by the token instead of the subsidized subscription prices
        geodel 4mo ago
        oh, so finally it is about money not open source.
    - antonvs 4mo ago
      It's the code they develop going forward that matters.
- worthless-trash 4mo ago
  Whats to discuss, it works, it does the job, cant complain.
- Spooky23 4mo ago
  There's a fair amount of enterprise usage. It's a really good product, despite the Claude hype. Anthropic is a PITA to deal with, and it's slow as shit weekday morning Eastern time.
  - markkitti 4mo ago
    Gemini CLI for Enterprise will continue. > If your organization uses Gemini CLI or our IDE extensions via a Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise license, or if your organization uses Gemini Code Assist for GitHub through Google Cloud, your access remains unchanged.
  - qaq 4mo ago
    I use all 3 compared to what do you think Gemini CLI is a good product? (my only use case for it now is triple checking specifications for drift inconsistencies beyond that I find it pretty lacking compared to codex and cc).
    - Spooky23 4mo ago
      I think for the average corporate person in a non-software company, the "out of box" experience is better with Gemini. It's also cheap. Once you get deeper into it, both Codex and Claude have better integrations with skills, etc. I sort of "discovered" skills via GStack and now use a few things, I find Claude's performance infuriating, but it can do more things. I happily pay $200 for Claude now, mostly for my own personal stuff. I think Gemini is better at external data sourcing and coding complex math. But note this is my anecdotal take, mostly in the context of hobby projects. I'm a journeyman AI slinger at best.
- lukaslalinsky 4mo ago
  Except complaints that it's horrible, you mean?

debian3 4mo ago

The usual playbook is they rename it a few times first, then they kill it.

cik 4mo ago
Sometimes it becomes 11 different chat applications among the way.
- Bilal_io 4mo ago
  It's technically a chat application. Except you're chatting with an LLM instead of friends and family.
  - Kwpolska 4mo ago
    And building a chat app is how you get promoted at Google.
roryirvine 4mo ago
And then later re-use the name for another product which is almost but not entirely unlike the original.

sbinnee 4mo ago

Another tombstone in Google Graveyard soon [1]. [1] https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/

blcsntb 4mo ago
Thanks

maipen 4mo ago

Even thought there are people using, it doesn’t mean they see a future in it. Google is the best when it comes to analytics and trends. If they see a product is expected to fail, which in this case it was, they simply kill it and move on instead of wasting resources saving a sinking ship. Of course, something could’ve been improved, but that’s just how they operate. I could be completely wrong though