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What's the privacy/data security like? I can't find that on that page. Edit: found it. > We may use your Content to operate, maintain, improve, and develop th

by pbowyer 5mo ago

What's the privacy/data security like? I can't find that on that page. Edit: found it. > We may use your Content to operate, maintain, improve, and develop the Services, to comply with legal obligations, to enforce our policies, and to ensure security. You may opt out of allowing your Content to be used for model improvement and research purposes by contacting us at membership@moonshot.ai. We will honor your choice in accordance with applicable law. Section 3 of https://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/modelUse?version=v2 https://www.kimi.com/user/agreement/modelUse?version=v2

pixel_popping 5mo ago
You really rely on ToS from Anthropic/OpenAI to know if they use your prompts or not? It's on their servers, why wouldn't they use our data?
- veber-alex 5mo ago
  Antropic and OpenAI are used by US businesses and government and they are audited and under contracts. If it's discovered they trained on data they shouldn't have had it will be the end of their business. On the other hand, good luck suing a Chinese company.
  - pixel_popping 5mo ago
    Not at all, Google/Meta... got caught all the time, where do you see it's the end of their business?
gpm 5mo ago
> We will honor your choice in accordance with applicable law. So in other words only if you can point to a local law which requires them to comply with the opt out?
- jdasdf 5mo ago
  most laws enforce agreements.
  - gpm 5mo ago
    Yes... but the agreement only says they won't train on your data if the law is already preventing them from doing so.
deaux 5mo ago
Yup, they train on your inputs and OpenRouter is complicit by claiming that Moonshot's ToS says that they don't. Contacted OpenRouter about this a while ago and was met with silence because it's bad for their business to stop lying about it.