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This is the dumbest take there is about vibe coding. Claiming that managing complexity in a codebase doesn't matter anymore. I can't imagine that a competent en

This is the dumbest take there is about vibe coding. Claiming that managing complexity in a codebase doesn't matter anymore. I can't imagine that a competent engineer would come to the conclusion that managing complexity doesn't matter anymore. There is actually some evidence that coding agents struggle the same way humans do as the complexity of the system increases [0]. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.24755 https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.24755

tokioyoyo 6mo ago
I agree, there is obviously “complete burning trash” and there’s this. Ant team has got a system going on for them where they can still extend the codebase. When time comes to it, I’m assuming they would be able to rewrite as feature set would be more solid and assuming they’ve been adding tests as well. Reverse-engineering through tests have never been easier, which could collapse the complexity and clean the code.
maplethorpe 6mo ago
Well what is Anthropic doing differently to deal with this issue? Apparently they don't write any of their own code anymore, and they're doing fine.
- bakugo 6mo ago
  Nothing, apparently, which is probably why Claude Code has 7893 open issues on Github at the time of writing.
  - otterley 6mo ago
    All software that’s popular has hundreds or thousands of issues filed against it. It’s not an objective indication of anything other than people having issues to report and a willingness and ability to report the issue. It doesn’t mean every issue is valid, that it contains a suggestion that can be implemented, that it can be addressed immediately, etc. The issue list might not be curated, either, resulting in a garbage heap.
    - tomjakubowski 6mo ago
      For what one anecdote is worth: through casual use I've found a handful of annoying UI bugs in Claude Code, and all of them were already reported on the bug tracker and either still open, or auto-closed without a real resolution.
- nvarsj 6mo ago
  Cc is buggy as hell man. I frequently search the github for the issue I’m having only to find 10 exact bugs that no one is looking at. Obviously they don’t care. Adoption is exploding. Boris brags about making 30 commits a day to the codebase. Only will be an issue down the line when the codebase has such high entropy it takes months to add new features (maybe already there).

tokioyoyo 6mo ago

I agree, there is obviously “complete burning trash” and there’s this. Ant team has got a system going on for them where they can still extend the codebase. When time comes to it, I’m assuming they would be able to rewrite as feature set would be more solid and assuming they’ve been adding tests as well. Reverse-engineering through tests have never been easier, which could collapse the complexity and clean the code.

maplethorpe 6mo ago

Well what is Anthropic doing differently to deal with this issue? Apparently they don't write any of their own code anymore, and they're doing fine.

bakugo 6mo ago
Nothing, apparently, which is probably why Claude Code has 7893 open issues on Github at the time of writing.
- otterley 6mo ago
  All software that’s popular has hundreds or thousands of issues filed against it. It’s not an objective indication of anything other than people having issues to report and a willingness and ability to report the issue. It doesn’t mean every issue is valid, that it contains a suggestion that can be implemented, that it can be addressed immediately, etc. The issue list might not be curated, either, resulting in a garbage heap.
  - tomjakubowski 6mo ago
    For what one anecdote is worth: through casual use I've found a handful of annoying UI bugs in Claude Code, and all of them were already reported on the bug tracker and either still open, or auto-closed without a real resolution.
nvarsj 6mo ago
Cc is buggy as hell man. I frequently search the github for the issue I’m having only to find 10 exact bugs that no one is looking at. Obviously they don’t care. Adoption is exploding. Boris brags about making 30 commits a day to the codebase. Only will be an issue down the line when the codebase has such high entropy it takes months to add new features (maybe already there).