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Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-isr...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-denies-reports-of-abuse-of-gaza-toddler-says-father-used-him-as-a-human-shield/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-denies-repo...
- adnanc 6mo agoNothing shocks anymore With all this brutality and dehumanisation, no wonder the IDF are seeing the highest rates of PTSD and suicide.
- yostrovs 6mo agoWhat are you comparing to? The Irish military?
- netsharc 6mo agoIt's sort of mind-blowing to see 1940s being repeated. Of course both times the victim group were viewed as sub-human/barbaric "other"... Before someone yells "Godwin!", read the Wikipedia page about that law, Godwin himself said it's fine to mention Nazis when it's actually a comparable thing. If you have 3 hours, there's a documentary you can watch, about a man who was part of a government-sanctioned killsquad to kill a lot of "communists" in 1960's Indonesia: The Act of Killing (available at e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q ). It's sort of understandable why the defenders of the genocide have to keep defending it. Stopping doing so today would mean admitting that until yesterday you've been defending utter inhumanity. A review: > Joshua Oppenheimer’s The Act of Killing is a challenging documentary. It is not only difficult to watch, but it also probes into one of the most grotesque aspects of human nature: the capacity for self-delusion in the face of horrific atrocities. This isn’t a film about history, facts, or statistics; it’s about the memories of the men who killed, the stories they tell themselves, and how they continue to live with the horrors they’ve inflicted on others. The film’s power lies in its ability to take the viewer beyond a surface-level understanding of evil and into the psychological abyss of those who have committed atrocities—and seemingly moved on with their lives. From: https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/ https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/
- aaron695 6mo ago[dead]
- iJohnDoe 6mo agoGenuine question. Are you indicating the IDF are not supporters or don’t believe in what they are doing? Their actions are forced because of duty? I guess if a massacre is a massacre then it would have a high chance of affecting those involved regardless of belief.
- amunozo 6mo agoI think even if they agree at first, this can be traumatic anyway. If I remember correctly, I read about Vietnam veterans that killed civilians including children out of anger and then were horribly traumatized. So both things can be true.
- austin-cheney 6mo agoIt’s pretty safe at this point to directly associate any support for Israel as a form of violent racism.
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo agoSomeone had submitted the same article and I was reading that article and I was in complete and utter shock and then I reloaded the hackernews page and I saw the post flagged. I really don't know/wish to know what your ideology is, but why this struck my mind was the imagination that this could've been my kid or this can be your kid, to whoever is reading this within wars and the brutality of this. I just can't out of good faith, let that discussion be ended, it is worth talking and worth submitting again. I have also archived the web page on archive.org "Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind" I just can't help but think, have we already lost mankind/(humanity?) in cases like these. I wish for everyone to stay safe and hopefully, this time around, this post doesn't get flagged. Have a nice day.
- burnt-resistor 6mo agoIgnoring the possibilities bots and engagement for disingenuous purposes, there are many people who benefit from the status quo, still other horrible people who support it, and still others who patronizingly declare certain topics must be censored for some fanciful, tone-deaf ideals that fail to meet the moment. All will be remembered how they failed to stop suffering, destruction, and calamity or possibly cheered it on. There is no right or left, only right and wrong and ultra-rich vs. everyone.
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo agoWell said, I agree with you. Some things go beyond politics and this is one of them and you're either on the right side of the history or wrong.
- mhb 6mo agoThanks for your service in alerting us to this unsubstantiated and terrible incident. Are you going to make a new submission for each of the tens of thousands of Iranians killed or tortured by their own government? Where are your posts for the undisputed Hamas atrocities which instigated all of this? Are these not sufficiently traumatizing to insist that they be brought to the attention of the readers in this inappropriate forum? But now we should all just get along?
- Hikikomori 6mo ago>"The claims that the IDF abused a toddler are completely unfounded and serve Hamas propaganda." The spokesperson said. >"On the contrary: The toddler was brought by a Hamas operative into a dangerous area to be used as a human shield. Same old denials as usual, aren't they getting tired? These spokespersons don't know anything, their only job is to deny that anything happened. Which does work a lot if there are no witnesses or video. Same deal with the ambulances or journalists like Shireen Abu Akleh. Deny. Deflect. Gaslight. Obfuscate. And if irrefutable evidence emerges, they deserved it. Weaponised narcissism by a country.
- burnt-resistor 6mo agoDeny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender (DARVO). Apropos: 'Iran and Gaza Are ONLY THE BEGINNING' (Chris Hedges at Princeton) March 2026 https://youtu.be/TV9dkU2E8j0 https://youtu.be/TV9dkU2E8j0
- Hikikomori 6mo agoWell that was depressing. While I already held these opinions I had some hope that what I believed wasn't true, because I didn't like what that would say about the us. A lot of people are going to have their 'are we the baddies?' moment in the near future.
- SilverElfin 6mo ago[dead]
- amazingman 6mo agoAre you claiming the Hamas does not use the entire civilian population under their rule as human shields? I hope not, because that reality is obvious. It's not merely individuals, either: it's policy. (Before responding with rhetoric in the other direction, please note that I have not taken a position on Israel here.)
- Hikikomori 6mo agoWhere would they go where there isn't civilians that isn't just target practice for Israel? But let's flip it, Israel does it, like outting a military HQ in a mall. It's just an excuse used by Israel to obliterate any building they want. Hamas shot some missile from there 10 minute's ago (why would they stay around?), so they send a bomb that takes out the block. Any civilians were just human shields anyway.
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo agoThis has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that this should be talked about and discussed publicly. I will continue to re-post this. I just want to raise awareness and not let censorship win. This post is beyond political, its a humanitarian post. I hope I can convey that and I hope that the streisand effect plays a part here and people become well aware of this post. @dang, can you please prevent such posts from getting flagged? Unless there is a reason as to why these might get flagged from a hackernews moderation standpoint, it feel as if a blatant misuse of the abuse feature. Have a nice day.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link. Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. > post is beyond political, its a humanitarian post If it’s not political, it’s irrelevant. Gawking at humanitarian disaster isn’t a popular pass-time outside narrow bands of the internet. If you’re posting it to effect change, it is political. That’s fine. But I’m also sceptical why this would be expected to change the balance of views on the wars in the region. IDF and Hamas—the former, probably due to resources, at larger scale than the latter—being horrible to captives is well established. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye
- Imustaskforhelp 6mo ago> Not flagging, but also not upvoting. One, it’s an ambiguous archive link This wasn't the case with the previous post that I mentioned yet it got flagged ? . Two, I’m not getting the sense that the source is unbiased [1]. For a contentious topic, I want to form my opinions—and hear those of fellow HN users—around rock-solid sourcing. When the post had gotten flagged/ I had thought of giving another link like msn (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-from-israeli-custody-with-suspected-torture-wounds/ar-AA1ZwgqF https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/gaza-toddler-released-f...) and this is a bit more in-depth (https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palestinian-baby-released-from-israeli-jail-with-cigarette-burn-wounds/ar-AA1ZAh0B https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military/palesti...) But I found no articles as thorough as this one. I don't believe as to if anything is factually wrong Also oops, yea I had just the link of archive.org and not the proper link (https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...) I am editing this for that, thank you for suggesting this! Edit: I can't edit the hackernews post, I am a bit sorry then to hackernews community for just sharing the archive.org link but I had accidentally pasted just the archive link instead, a bit sorry about that, perhaps moderators (if they wish) can change to this particular link or if someone wants to read it: https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-toddler-released-israeli-custody-cigarette-burn-wounds https://web.archive.org/web/20260328122756/https://www.middl...
- TheGuyWhoCodes 6mo ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago“HonestReporting or Honest Reporting is an Israeli media advocacy group” [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HonestReporting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HonestReporting
- SilverElfin 6mo agoWell, TRT World, who spread this story, is extremely biased against Israel and in favor of Islamism. It’s a propaganda outlet for Erdogan. Other outlets repeating it - Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye, etc - are all propaganda outlets and extremely biased on the topic of Israel and Gaza. And Honest Reporting’s description of this situation seems accurate. What evidence is there really? It seems like one person’s claim is being laundered through many pro Palestine news outlets. That’s basically what this Honest Reporting article says, and that part seems irrefutable.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> TRT World, who spread this story, is extremely biased against Israel Sure. I called that out, too [1]. Two bad sources doesn't a good source make [2]. > in favor of Islamism Islamism in its formal sense [3] falls into the same category as Christian nationalism in Europe and America, Hindutva in India and the current governing ideology of Israel's government. I am not personally in favor of marrying religion and politics. But I'm not going to discard someone's opinion about something just because they believe that. > What evidence is there really? The Independent quotes a named doctor. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557483 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47557483 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism#Criticism
- SilverElfin 6mo ago
- khaledh 6mo agoThe list keeps growing. - Flour massacre - World Central Kitchen drone strikes - Gaza aid distribution massacres - Rafah paramedics massacre - Targeting of journalists - Forced starvation - Crop destruction Israel will deny all of those. But the world have seen it with their own eyes.
- snthpy 6mo agoThere seem to be two fundamentally incompatible interpretations of "Never again" [1]. I thought it was a no brainer for universal adoption, but TIL that for some it means more of the same. 1: Never again - Wikipedia https://share.google/LGCVvfaJFeJOizox9 https://share.google/LGCVvfaJFeJOizox9
- johnbarron 6mo ago"Israeli politician Yitzik Kroizer endorses targeting children": https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s42uo8/israel_israeli_politician_yitzik_kroizer_endorses/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s42uo8/isr... "IDF assault and arrest CNN journalists covering the settlements": https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s5zzey/israel_occupied_west_bank_after_israeli_settlers/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1s5zzey/isr... "Israel responsible for two-thirds of record 129 press killings in 2025" - https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/25/record-number-journalists-killed-2025-israel-gaza-war https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/25/record-number-...
- Glant 6mo agoLet's not forget all the raping of prisoners
- khaledh 6mo agoAnd the killing of Hind Rajab, her family, and the paramedics that went to help her.
- burnt-resistor 6mo agoRaping with the sharp end of knives requiring surgical intervention.
- 56745742597 6mo ago[flagged]