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devils advocate here... but isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? I just read the article an

devils advocate here... but isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? I just read the article and by his cousins own testimony, they were BOTH minors, and he heinously sexually assaulted her by groping her breasts after she consented to... take off her own shirt down to a bra, during a "massage"... but the shirts off massage turned into a sexual assault when he touched her breasts/removed her bra? He denies all of it, and it happened 20 years ago, and maybe he is a fraud, and maybe he is a creep, but there is no way to prove any of it.

defrost 6mo ago
> isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later No. Not in the slightest. From work I once did, essentially IT support for a Royal Commission inquiry into sexual abuse and assault, it's extremely common for all manner of sexual assault victims to remain silent for many years. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s). Eg: ~ 50 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Cable#Sexual_abuse_claims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Cable#Sexual_abuse_claim... also, say, Rolf Harris, Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, and numerous other rock spiders.
- poisonarena 6mo ago
  Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying, and answering a question I didn't ask ! edit: comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach
  - defrost 6mo ago
    > Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)." > comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach No, they had a reach around. Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely noted that large time gaps are common place. Again, please read carefully.
    - poisonarena 6mo ago
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      - defrost 6mo ago
        Again, it is commonplace for both men and women to not publicly report sexual assault in their teen and preteen years for decades. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s).
        poisonarena 6mo ago
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        hacker161 6mo ago
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      - ImPostingOnHN 6mo ago
        I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question: > isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."
        poisonarena 6mo ago
        on the contrary, both of you missed my original point, which is that i doubt it happened the way they say it did, because I think they want a taste of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has.
        defrost 6mo ago
        > both of you missed my original point, Nope. No one missed you implying it was solely about the money. Again, a vast number of sexual assaults are either never reported or not reported for many many years. Regardless of the money.
watwut 6mo ago
No not at all. There is no shock over women not filing complaints in situation where there is 100% guarantee they will be blamed for the situation, slut shamed and generally weak. Them filing complaint when they are in better position in life, when politics slightly change so there is an illusion someone will care etc makes perfect sense. And yes, consenting to massage is not the same as consenting to sexual assault or anything else sexual. Among other reasons, that is why married people can get massage without it being cheating.
onetokeoverthe 6mo ago
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defrost 6mo ago

> isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later No. Not in the slightest. From work I once did, essentially IT support for a Royal Commission inquiry into sexual abuse and assault, it's extremely common for all manner of sexual assault victims to remain silent for many years. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s). Eg: ~ 50 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Cable#Sexual_abuse_claims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Cable#Sexual_abuse_claim... also, say, Rolf Harris, Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, and numerous other rock spiders.

poisonarena 6mo ago
Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying, and answering a question I didn't ask ! edit: comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach
- defrost 6mo ago
  > Ahhh I see you quoted, and responded to only the FIRST half of the sentence I wrote, totally ignoring what I was implying Read more carefully, note well: " Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s)." > comparing Jimmy Seville, and this 17 year old kid who touched his cousins tits during a consensual massage 20 years ago is a reach No, they had a reach around. Moreover, I didn't compare them, I merely noted that large time gaps are common place. Again, please read carefully.
  - poisonarena 6mo ago
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    - defrost 6mo ago
      Again, it is commonplace for both men and women to not publicly report sexual assault in their teen and preteen years for decades. Regardless of the wealth of the alleged perpetrator(s).
      - poisonarena 6mo ago
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        hacker161 6mo ago
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    - ImPostingOnHN 6mo ago
      I feel like you're missing the point, and the answer to your question: > isnt it weird how these women filed a complaint together 20 years later, after he became a billionaire? No. Multiple people are now informing you that this is not weird. I'm assuming good faith that this was a genuine question, and you now have your answer to it: "No."
      - poisonarena 6mo ago
        on the contrary, both of you missed my original point, which is that i doubt it happened the way they say it did, because I think they want a taste of the hundreds of millions of dollars he has.
        defrost 6mo ago
        > both of you missed my original point, Nope. No one missed you implying it was solely about the money. Again, a vast number of sexual assaults are either never reported or not reported for many many years. Regardless of the money.

watwut 6mo ago

No not at all. There is no shock over women not filing complaints in situation where there is 100% guarantee they will be blamed for the situation, slut shamed and generally weak. Them filing complaint when they are in better position in life, when politics slightly change so there is an illusion someone will care etc makes perfect sense. And yes, consenting to massage is not the same as consenting to sexual assault or anything else sexual. Among other reasons, that is why married people can get massage without it being cheating.

onetokeoverthe 6mo ago

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