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Turn a single image into a navigable 3D Gaussian Splat with depth
https://x.com/revelium_studio/status/2009570090568577045 https://x.com/revelium_studio/status/2009570090568577045
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- xnx 8mo agoOr one-click install on your own device: https://pinokio.co/item.html?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ffrancescofugazzi%2Fml-sharp-pinokio&parent_frame=https://www.google.com/ https://pinokio.co/item.html?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2F...
- causal 8mo agoWhat is Pinokio? The website just says "Your PC is the Cloud" - what?
- xnx 8mo agoThat website tries too hard to write clever marketing copy and does a bad job describing what actually is. Better description: Pinokio is a free, open-source "AI browser" that simplifies installing, running, and managing complex, open-source AI applications and creative tools (like Stable Diffusion, ComfyUI) with one-click scripts, removing the need for coding or complex command-line setup.
- shermantanktop 8mo agoNot sure I would name a product after a legendary liar... But sure, click that download link, what's the worst that could happen? Get turned into a donkey and swallowed by a whale?
- brk 8mo agoTried a few random images and scenes, overall wasn't that impressive. Maybe I'm using the wrong kinds of input images or something, but for the most part once I moved more than a small amount, the rendering was mostly noise. To be fair, I didn't really expect much more. Neat demo, but feels like things need to come quite a ways to make this interesting.
- Johnny_Bonk 8mo agoCool, is there a way to upload several photos of a room from different angles to fuse it all together? Is there an api?
- riotnrrd 8mo agoThat's a pretty well-solved problem at this point, if you want to do it yourself. You'll want some kind of NeRF tool and a way to calculate the camera poses of the photos you took. COLMAP is the tool most people use for the latter. I'd recommend trying Instant Neural Graphics Primitives (https://github.com/NVlabs/instant-ngp https://github.com/NVlabs/instant-ngp) from NVIDIA. It's a couple years old, so not state-of-the-art, but it runs on just about anything and is extremely fast.
- Johnny_Bonk 8mo agoSweet, thank you for sharing. In my case, I need an api I can call cause i only have a mac air which is essentially worthless for development lol. Also I am bootstrapping a startup and one of the features is essentially turning rooms into 3d space. I know theres matterport 3d and some others but still looking for something simple where i could pay a couple cents per api call with x amount of images. does that make sense?
- carlosjobim 8mo agoThat is the entire science of photogrammetry. Which has made tremendous progress in the past 10 years. There's many tools which will do it for you.
- mawadev 8mo agoStuck at 90% forever..
- M4R5H4LL 8mo agoSame for me
- tripplyons 8mo agoSame here
- eps 8mo agoYup, same here.
- someguyiguess 8mo agoSame for me as well. Probably ran out of API token credits when everyone on HN started loading it.
- verytrivial 8mo agoMy understanding of JavaScript is cursory, but my reading of that webpage is the UI is just smoke and mirrors, and it is just waiting for the whole thing to be processed in a single remote API call to some back-end system. If the back-end is down, it will always stop at 90%. The crawling progress bar is fake with canned messages updated with Math.Random() delays. Gives you something to look at, I guess, but seems a little misleading. Might be wrong ...
- lastdong 8mo agoI was wondering if it was running locally… 90% stuck
- james2doyle 8mo agoI think this one is better: https://huggingface.co/spaces/ronedgecomb/ml-sharp https://huggingface.co/spaces/ronedgecomb/ml-sharp
- colordrops 8mo agoFails for me with: '_Function' object has no attribute '_snapshotted'
- personjerry 8mo agoThis is just Apple's tool plus a splat viewing library? Perhaps disingenuous to call "our web app" This is the heavy lifting: https://github.com/apple/ml-sharp https://github.com/apple/ml-sharp Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46284658 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46284658
- vunderba 8mo agoYeah I think you're right. It calls that out (in really tiny footer text) that it's leveraging ml-sharp. It's pretty trivial to get running locally and generating the PLY files. Spark's a pretty good renderer for it after you've generated the gaussian splats. https://github.com/sparkjsdev/spark https://github.com/sparkjsdev/spark
- j2kun 8mo agoWould be useful to have the website say something, _anything_ about what this is doing besides asking you to upload an image.
- smusamashah 8mo agoIf this model is so good at estimating depth from single image, shouldn't it also be able to take multiple images as input and estimate even better? But searching a bit it looks like this is supposed to be a single image to 3D only. I don't understand why it does not (can not?) work with multiple images.
- shrinks99 8mo agoI'm going to guess this is because the image to depth data, while good, is not perfectly accurate and therefore cannot be a shared ground truth between multiple images. At that point what you want is a more traditional structure from motion workflow, which already exists and does a decent job.
- voodooEntity 8mo agoIf you have multiple images you could use photogrammetry. At the end, if you want to "fill in the blanks" llm will always "make up" stuff, based on all of its training data. With a technology like photogrammetry you can get much better results, therefor if you have multiple angled images and dont really need to make up stuff, its better to use such
- esafak 8mo agoSurely this is not an LLM?
- TeMPOraL 8mo agoYou could use both. Photogrammetry requires you to have a lot of additional information, and/or to make a lot of assumptions (e.g. about camera, specific lens properties, medium properties, material composition and properties, etc. - and what are reasonable range for values in context), if you want it to work well for general cases, as otherwise the problem you're solving is underspecified. In practice, even enumerating those assumptions is a huge task, much less defending them. That's why photogrammetry applications tend to be used for solving very specific problems in select domains. ML models, on the other hand, are in a big way, intuitive assumption machines. Through training, they learn what's likely and what's not, given both the input measurements and the state of the world. They bake in knowledge for what kind of cameras exist, what kind of measurements are being made, what results make sense in the real world. In the past I'd say that for best results, we should combine the two approaches - have AI supply assumptions and estimates for otherwise explicitly formal, photogrammetric approach. Today, I'm no longer convinced it's the case - because relative to the fuzzy world modeling part, the actual math seems trivial and well within capabilities of ML models to do correctly. The last few years demonstrated that ML models are capable of internally modeling calculations and executing them, so I now feel it's more likely that a sufficiently trained model will just do photogrammetry calculations internally. See also: the Bitter Lesson.
- voodooEntity 8mo agoIts funny, always stucks on 90% till it fails with the error that another big image may be keeping the server busy. I mean ok its a "demo" tho the funny thing is if you actually check the cli and requests, you clearly can see that the 3 stages the images walks through on "processing" are fake, its just doing 1 post request in the backend that runs while it traverses through the states, and at 90% it stops until (in theory) the request ends.
- hahahahhaah 8mo agoOh it's an IE6 progress bar then.
- fenwick67 8mo agoWhen I saw the progress bar moving so smoothly I knew it was BS lol
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- nmstoker 8mo agoGets stuck at 84% each time - seems wasteful to let it get that far!
- methuselah_in 8mo agoThrown 2 images didn't nothing just a error
- mightysashiman 8mo agoConveniently fails to start processing