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Good. Unsurprising (well, known), but good. In fact, the world would be a better place if the US would not use their influence to try to keep other countries do
by Shin-- 9mo ago
Good. Unsurprising (well, known), but good. In fact, the world would be a better place if the US would not use their influence to try to keep other countries down.
- watwut 9mo agoChina banned them tho.
- Matl 9mo agoChina banned them AFTER the US first banned them and then unbanned them and a series of unfriendly trade moves by the US. This discussion where China is always purely dishonest, bad etc. without any context is honestly lame. The Chinese ban is largely a political move designed to signal that they're not going to be pushed around. They pretty much know companies are using them, (and H100 in Thailand etc.) but as long as it sends a message and over time incentives domestic development, (which it does), then good as far as they're concerned. It's certainly better than the EU just rolling over for King Donald, which as a EU citizen is embarrassing.
- sofixa 9mo ago> It's certainly better than the EU just rolling over for King Donald, which as a EU citizen is embarrassing. I'm seeing it more as buying time thing. In sourcing as much as possible in the EU is already in progress, as well as various trade agreements with different countries and economic blocs. That doesn't mean it isn't preferable to play nice with the demented guy to make the transition less painful in the short term.
- Paradigma11 9mo agoEspecially since the demented guys public support seems to be in freefall. Why not wait a year and kick him when he is down on the ground.
- Matl 9mo agoThe problem is, the EU is damaging its relationships with countries like China and India etc. too, rather than building strategic alliances, On diplomatic trips, it often 'lectures' others, rather than listens. I think the EU is less and less liked by these other countries too, which is a disastrous combination when coupled with where the US is at imo.
- sofixa 9mo ago> On diplomatic trips, it often 'lectures' others, rather than listens. Like when?
- Matl 9mo agoi.e. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/kaja-kallas-history/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/kaja-kallas-history/ - or from the Chinese side https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202509/1342651.shtml https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202509/1342651.shtml This is not good diplomacy.
- sofixa 9mo agoChinese propaganda full of nonsense falsehoods isn't better diplomacy either. > Guo noted that the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression was an important part of the World Anti-Fascist War. 80 years ago, the Chinese people made tremendous national sacrifices to save human civilization Lol, that particular part is hilarious. Imperial Japan wasn't drastically different in terms of governance compared to Chiang's or Mao's China. All three were pretty brutal anti-democratic regimes. Chiang had pretty clear fascist inspirations too. > showed a lack of basic historical knowledge Indeed, Chinese propaganda doesn't concern itself with historical knowledge. Those are the same people who imagine claims to half of Southeast Asia. But China is a bit like Russia, their foreign minister blabbers nonsense, but that doesn't prevent actual trade or deal making.
- Matl 9mo agoI don't think I ever saw a more illiterate comment in my life.
- tonyhart7 9mo ago"In fact, the world would be a better place if the US would not use their influence to try to keep other countries down." acting like china wouldn't doing the same thing to other country if they ever weld such position every great power would do the same thing to defend their position, its not unique to the US. only because current incumbent power is we see things this way
- kelseyfrog 9mo agoIf I don't make the world worse then someone else will is such a depressing state of affairs. If that's the mentality, then what's worth fighting over? We should give up because we don't even deserve the rewards.
- rangestransform 9mo agowe shouldn't give up securing resources for ourselves, our loved ones, and our nations
- tonyhart7 9mo ago"If I don't make the world worse then someone else will is such a depressing state of affairs." its not make the world worse but simply take what matters to your group does that evil??? hmmm noo, people call it patriotism what do you think entire US military base reside in 80% of the world btw????? does US military doing picnic on these country????? I can tell you answer but some people didn't want to confront reality and would be downvote me to hell but in the end someone gotta to do it
- epolanski 9mo agoWhen china will do it, I'll judge them for it.
- throawayonthe 9mo agochina's global status was obtained very differently from the US, its material interests and levers of influence are different if china was in the same position as the us it would just be the us; obviously this is not inherent to nationality, but material conditions
- pembrook 9mo agoI agree that a fair playing field for everyone would be the ideal state. But let's not pretend China doesn't use their influence to keep other countries down as well, and let's not pretend they allow a fair playing field for foreign competitors domestically either. The US would not have imposed these targeted sanctions if China simply wanted to fairly compete in the marketplace.
- dlisboa 9mo agoThe US sanctions have nothing to do with free market maximalism. I thought that was quite obvious historically and specially now. They've imposed tariffs on literally every country on the planet.
- verdverm 9mo agoTariffs are applied to countries that we are "ripping off", if King Donald's definition is used consistently for every country. If we had a surplus, you still get a 10% tariff that Americans have to pay...
- pembrook 9mo agoIt's my fault for wading into a political discussion on a forum of react developers. That's on me. But the "banned" chips this article is referring to and the original chips act is from the Biden administration, having nothing to do with the current tariff climate. Also, obviously US actions have nothing to do with free market maximalism. Nor does China feel that way either. Which is my point.
- vagrantJin 9mo agoForum of react developers is wild. I, for one, appreciate the humor
- remarkEon 9mo agoIt’s debatable whether it’s a better use of US power and resources to try to stop PRC from obtaining these chips versus, say, sinking the Chinese fishing fleets actively wrecking entire ecosystems. I probably agree with you that on balance working on the later problem has a higher long term ROI.
- sneak 9mo agoDon’t hate the player, hate the game.
- esafak 9mo agoThe player has the power to change the game.
- nish__ 9mo agoThat is just not true. The referees have the power to change the game. The fans have the power to change the game. The owners and the commissioners have the power to change the game. The players have no power at all.
- spencerflem 9mo agoI don’t see how that follows
- xadhominemx 9mo agoChina has promised to wage war and forcibly subjugate Taiwan, a democratic ally and critical trade partner. If China backed off Taiwan for a few decades, I think the US would drop export controls.
- dialectical 9mo ago>If China backed off Taiwan for a few decades, I think the US would drop export controls. Total historical illiteracy. if only there was an island nation immediately southeast of the US we could look to for information on how America treats countries that try the whole "back off" thing