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This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust i

This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"

raggi 9mo ago
If it was being removed the title would be "An update on rust in the kernel"
joshdavham 9mo ago
I think on HN, people generally want the submission's title to match the page's title. (I do agree it's clickbait-y though)
- Archelaos 9mo ago
  I prefer improved titles. However, not in this case. It is rather irony, because LWN does not need click-bait.
  - goku12 9mo ago
    This one is apparently a genuine mistake from the author. But I think we should leave it as it is. The confusion and the argument about it is interesting in itself.
- not2b 9mo ago
  I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.
- airstrike 9mo ago
  Guidelines say fine to editorialize in these cases. > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
onedognight 9mo ago
It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!
- Redster 9mo ago
  Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)
- ModernMech 9mo ago
  Might as well just post it: The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.
  - testdelacc1 9mo ago
    This should just be the pinned comment.
panzi 9mo ago
I'm having deja Vu. Was there another quite similar headline here a few weeks or so ago?
sho_hn 9mo ago
I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek. Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.
- nailer 9mo ago
  Hacker news generally removes Clickbait titles regardless of the provenance
- b33j0r 9mo ago
  Fair. But there’s even an additional difference between snarky clickbait and “giving the exact opposite impression of the truth in a headline” ;)
- zengid 9mo ago
  He didn't intend it as a joke and his intent matches the op's title revision request: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/
- DrammBA 9mo ago
  > on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke It was unintentional as per author > Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.
  - DANmode 9mo ago
    The “Ouch.” was in reference to being compared to Phoronix. Has anyone found them to be inaccurate, or fluffy to the point it degraded the content? I haven’t - but then again, probably predominantly reading the best posts being shared on aggregators.
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heddelt 9mo ago
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zengid 9mo ago
i agree and this matches the authors intent: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/
CrankyBear 9mo ago
He didn't mean to! That said, the headline did make me look.
Aldipower 9mo ago
Seems you do not understand the concept of fun. You can learn that, makes your life easier.
- huflungdung 9mo ago
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This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"

raggi 9mo ago

If it was being removed the title would be "An update on rust in the kernel"

joshdavham 9mo ago

I think on HN, people generally want the submission's title to match the page's title. (I do agree it's clickbait-y though)

Archelaos 9mo ago
I prefer improved titles. However, not in this case. It is rather irony, because LWN does not need click-bait.
- goku12 9mo ago
  This one is apparently a genuine mistake from the author. But I think we should leave it as it is. The confusion and the argument about it is interesting in itself.
not2b 9mo ago
I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.
airstrike 9mo ago
Guidelines say fine to editorialize in these cases. > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

onedognight 9mo ago

It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!

Redster 9mo ago
Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)
ModernMech 9mo ago
Might as well just post it: The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.
- testdelacc1 9mo ago
  This should just be the pinned comment.

panzi 9mo ago

I'm having deja Vu. Was there another quite similar headline here a few weeks or so ago?

sho_hn 9mo ago

I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek. Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.

nailer 9mo ago
Hacker news generally removes Clickbait titles regardless of the provenance
b33j0r 9mo ago
Fair. But there’s even an additional difference between snarky clickbait and “giving the exact opposite impression of the truth in a headline” ;)
zengid 9mo ago
He didn't intend it as a joke and his intent matches the op's title revision request: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/
DrammBA 9mo ago
> on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke It was unintentional as per author > Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.
- DANmode 9mo ago
  The “Ouch.” was in reference to being compared to Phoronix. Has anyone found them to be inaccurate, or fluffy to the point it degraded the content? I haven’t - but then again, probably predominantly reading the best posts being shared on aggregators.
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heddelt 9mo ago

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zengid 9mo ago

i agree and this matches the authors intent: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/ https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/

CrankyBear 9mo ago

He didn't mean to! That said, the headline did make me look.

Aldipower 9mo ago

Seems you do not understand the concept of fun. You can learn that, makes your life easier.

huflungdung 9mo ago
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