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It feels far too early for a protocol that's barely a year old with so much turbulence to be donated into its own foundation under the LF. Alot of people don't
by jpmcb 9mo ago
It feels far too early for a protocol that's barely a year old with so much turbulence to be donated into its own foundation under the LF.
Alot of people don't realize this, but the foundations that wrap up to the LF have revenue pipelines that are supported by those foundations events (like Kubecon brings in ALOT of money for the CNCF), courses, certifications, etc. And, by proxy, the projects support those revenue streams for the foundations they're in. The flywheel is _supposed_ to be that companies donate to the foundation, those companies support the projects with engineering resources, they get a booth at the event for marketing, and the LF can ensure the health and well-being of the ecosystem and foundation through technical oversight committees, elections, a service-desk, owning the domains, etc.
I don't see how MCP supports that revenue stream nor does it seem like a good idea at this stage: why get a certification for "Certified MCP Developer" when the protocol is evolving so quickly and we've yet to figure how OAuth is going to work in a sane manner?
Mature projects like Kuberentes becoming the backbone of a foundation, like it did with CNCF, makes alot of sense: it was a relatively proven technology at Google that had alot of practical use cases for the emerging world of "cloud" and containers. MCP, at least for me, has not yet proven it's robustness as a mature and stable project: I'd put it into the "sandbox" category of projects which are still rapidly evolving and proving their value. I would have much preferred for Anthropic and a small strike team of engaged developers to move fast and fix alot of the issues in the protocol vs. it getting donated and slowing to a crawl.
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- Eldodi 9mo agoAt the same time, the protocol's adoption has been 10x faster than Kubernetes, so if you count by this metric, it actually makes sense to donate it now to let others actors in. For instance, without this Google will never fully commit to MCP.
- baq 9mo agocomparing kubernetes to what amounts to a subdirectory of shell scripts and their man pages is... brave?
- anon84873628 9mo agoShell scripts written by nearly every product company out there. There are lots of small and niche projects under the Linux Foundation. What matters for MCP right now is the vendor neutrality.
- throwaway290 9mo agoAre you saying nearly every product company uses MCP? What a stretch
- anon84873628 9mo agoI meant to say every enterprise product
- throwaway290 9mo agoIt doesn't matter because only a minority of product companies worldwide (regardless enterprise or not) uses MCP. I'd bet only minority uses LLMs in general.
- anon84873628 9mo agoOh so is that "truth" or "vibes" as the sibling comments are laughing about?
- throwaway290 9mo agoNo, it's just another statement with no sources just like you:)
- mrbungie 9mo ago
- edoceo 9mo agoSo what of G don't commit? If MCP is so good, it can stand w/o them.
- hans0l074 9mo agoAlso IIRC, K8s was perhaps less than 2 years old before it was accepted into the CNCF.
- xsgordon 9mo agoK8S was the original reason the CNCF was created.
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- MrDarcy 9mo agoThis is a land grab and not much else.
- ra 9mo agoI don't see a future in MCP; this is grandstanding at at it's finest.
- asdfwaafsfw 9mo agoIsn't MCP publicly older than Kubernetes when it was donated to CNCF?