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Flowplayer 5.0.0
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoReally sleek, very nice minimal UI. More "fast and fluid" than Windows 8! Love it, certainly going to use it when I need a video player. It even has full screen! Edit: Even better, it's responsive to browser width changes!
- tammer 14y agoAgreed. It's all win; testing it on some pretty old hardware and it's really smooth.
- mddw 14y agoTo make a <video> responsive, you only have to set its width to 100%... not a big deal. But yeah, I love flowplayer, it has a nice js API. Too bad it's not IE6 compatible.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoWell, yes, but it's nice to see how flowplayer resizes its interface with browser width on-the-fly.
- taylorbuley 14y agoWhy on earth do you need IE6 support? IE6 is not even in the top 12 browsers according to StatCounter.
- mddw 14y agoGlobaly, yes. But if you want, per example, to target China, IE6 is mandatory. http://www.ie6countdown.com/ http://www.ie6countdown.com/ (and even Japan is at 4.7% according to this site. 4.7% is significant enough.)
- fjarlq 14y agoMandatory? For everybody? There's a cost to supporting IE6, and a cost to not supporting it. Depending on what you're doing, it might make much better sense to do something like: http://code.google.com/p/ie6-upgrade-warning/ http://code.google.com/p/ie6-upgrade-warning/ IE6 usage is falling fast, even in China.
- tipiirai 14y agoNot really. You obviously need to take care of the height too and it must depend on video dimensions. Other players out there are designed for fixed widths.
- dysoco 14y agoWell, that was fast. However, I don't think deleting the pause button is a good idea, yeah: you can click in the screen, but some people might not realize that.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoI think people will figure it out. But it would be interesting to do some usability tests on this.
- ams6110 14y agoWell the pause button has been around since tape players and VCRs, I think it's a pretty well established control that people will look for. Why should clicking the video do anything?
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoWell, thanks to smartphones and Flash video players, I think people are also used to click/tap-to-pause now, too. I don't foresee it being much of a problem. And minimal UI means minimal distraction.
- tipiirai 14y agoThis has been a big debate at Flowplayer before the release. At the end of the day it was clear to us. Play/pause button must go. Majority of users find it obvious that pausing happens by clicking on the video. This happens on both YouTube and Vimeo which makes it mainstream. And when it's possible to remove an UI element we'll certainly do it. We want to make the player as minimal as possible and make the video star of the show. Now more than ever.
- fjarlq 14y agoSpeaking of controls, a request: I want to be able to repeatedly replay selected moments in videos. So, I hover my mouse pointer over the seek slider at a certain point in the video so that I can repeatedly click that point to repeatedly replay that particular moment. But most video players (including Flowplayer) cause the controls to disappear after a few seconds, even if I just barely clicked. This forces me to wiggle the mouse to wake up the controls right when I don't want to move my mouse because it's remembering a position in the video for me. I would welcome any solution to this problem. A keyboard solution might work well. Youtube has keyboard shortcuts '1', '2', '3', for jumping to 10%, 20%, 30% into the video. I wish you could hit '.' or something to jump to the last position I set by clicking my mouse on the seek slider. Also, I wish the controls did not fade away when I am hovering over them, using them. By the way, Flowplayer seems to have a bug: if I attempt to hover over a point in the seek slider and repeatedly seek to that point, after the first click or two, it begins ignoring my seek request.
- seiji 14y agoHow does this stack up to http://videojs.com http://videojs.com?
- phase_9 14y agoAnecdotal, I know, but I found VideoJS to be a bit of a mess. From a code point of view, the player instance would not destroy correctly resulting in a memory leak for single-page web apps and IMHO the CSS was a pain to work with.
- johnx123-up 14y agoWhat about http://mediaelementjs.com/ http://mediaelementjs.com/ ?
- sbarre 14y agoOne of the things I love the most about HN is reading the comments on something cool (like Flowplayer) inevitably leads to the discovery of comparable and equally cool things! Thanks for the link!
- tipiirai 14y agoSame as with videojs, you should compare at what Flowplayer can actually do: http://flowplayer.org/demos/ http://flowplayer.org/demos/ . There is a difference.
- ddorian43 14y agoWhat about vast in both html5 and flash?
- tipiirai 14y agoVideoJS has done a pretty good job at promoting HTML5 video and giving a viable alternative for Flash. Flowplayer is not just HTML5 video but common API for video - no matter what the backend is: the VIDEO tag or Flash (for older browsers). This universal API is for both CSS and JavaScript. Same CSS rules or JavaScript methods apply for both backends. Think of implementing plugins or skins that work on all browsers and devices. That's not all. A lot of features that were only there for Flash are now available for HTML5: cuepoints, playlists, random seeking, fullscreen, keyboard shortucts.. to name a few. For a full list of features please have a look at: http://flowplayer.org/why/ http://flowplayer.org/why/ Demos: http://flowplayer.org/demos/ http://flowplayer.org/demos/ Make sure you try with various browsers. Note: iPad support is unbeatable.
- acdha 14y agoLooks nice but I was really hoping for <track> support - based on some recent testing, it appears that currently only mediaelement.js supports both the Flash fallback and support for subtitles / captions.
- tipiirai 14y agoTrack element is coming. We thought it was not a blocker for a first release. Note: I'm one of the developers of Flowplayer.
- mfjordvald 14y agoSome US states require that you caption your streamed content to comply with the American with Disabilities Act. http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-22/business/32352980_1_disability-rights-education-disabilities-act-netflix http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-22/business/32352980_1_di... I'd honestly say it should have been a blocker but at the least it should be high priority for next release.
- tipiirai 14y agoThis is important. However, most web videos today are not associated with captions and made us ignore this from the initial release.
- mfjordvald 14y agoI'm not sure I understand, why is that important? The way I read it is that whether or not they're associated with captions they still require subtitles if the company is registered in the "wrong" (I'd argue right) state and the the video contain speech.
- tipiirai 14y agoFlowplayer Ltd is located in Finland but this does not matter here. What matters here is the feature set and how each feature is prioritized. For the first release we picked the ones we thought were absolutely necessary to make a great product. For the next one we fill in the gaps. For some people captions are highly critical and we cannot please them with Flowplayer 5. For them we recommend our flash offering http://flash.flowplayer.org http://flash.flowplayer.org until captions are implemented to the HTML5 version.
- supjeff 14y agosafari 6.0.1 on mountain lion: http://cl.ly/image/0d0V1B1C3V28 http://cl.ly/image/0d0V1B1C3V28
- woadwarrior01 14y agoSeems to work just fine for me with Safari 6.0.1 on Mountain Lion. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s186/sh/2b0936f2-0581-4b57-968e-00b70e03d9c7/4725e32bff38c2d840e9f5c651faee63 https://www.evernote.com/shard/s186/sh/2b0936f2-0581-4b57-96...
- supjeff 14y agofiddlesticks.
- tipiirai 14y agoWorks here too: http://d.pr/i/XRdu http://d.pr/i/XRdu
- supjeff 14y agotabarnac...
- davidcollantes 14y agoNo issues here, same browser and OS. It seems you have a problem.
- supjeff 14y agocon sarnit...
- anssip 14y agoIt forks flawlessly on iPad too, using the same controls as in desktop browsers.
- denzil_correa 14y agoI like the clean design but for some reason by browser hangs up while scrolling through your site. Safari 5.1.7 on Snow Leopard
- tipiirai 14y agoWe currently have an Amazon micro instance! We have static pages served with nginx. Thanks, we're studying these occasional 503 issues.
- denzil_correa 14y agoUh ... well it is not a 503 issue but looks more a HTML5 issue to me. My browser works absolutely fine when your website is not in one of my tabs.
- tipiirai 14y agoSorry. Misunderstood your issue. Need to check this out with Safari 5.
- doctorpangloss 14y agoThe dolly shot (the rails shot) near the end stutters on Chrome 21 on Mountain Lion. I think it's probably always stuttering, but it's only really obvious then. Maybe cut the dolly shot?
- erikano 14y agoI tried to play the demo videos on my Samsung Galaxy S II (Android 2.3.5), both with Dolphin Browser v8.8.2 and the stock web browser, but it doesn't seem to work in either of them.
- TorKlingberg 14y agoSame here. It does not work in the stock Android browser or in Chorme, but it plays in Opera Mobile. It seems like a very basic oversight. I suspect this is the reason YouTube is so dominant: It works reliably everywhere.
- tipiirai 14y agoBut not on iPads or environments where Flash is not supported. They have certainly improved here but definitely not reliable everywhere. And obviously Android we'll make Flowplayer work on stock Android browser. That's a oversight from our part on the initial release.
- tipiirai 14y agoMade Android work with native controls. Similarl to iPhone. Here is a demo: http://flowplayer.github.com/demo/seek/ http://flowplayer.github.com/demo/seek/ This is for upcoming 5.0.1 version.
- degenerate 14y agoYou guys finally came out with a release that rivals JWplayer. Congrats! I switched from flowplayer to jwplayer when it started to get bloated/buggy in v3. Looks like I might come back for 5 :)
- tipiirai 14y agoWelcome on board!
- liamgooding 14y agoCongrats Tero and Anssi, this is such an awesome update! Being on the FP journey over the years has been great, and V5 proves that journey is still very relevant and very exciting! Going to have a play with it this week for sure.
- deepuj 14y agoDoes GPL 3 mean that I cannot use it for in my commercial projects?
- tipiirai 14y agoNo restrictions. You can use it commercially.