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800 environment violations in service of the development of modern subterranean transportation is a utilitarian trade I'll take any day of the week.

miltonlost 11mo ago
> modern subterranean transportation Looks at Hyperloop. Looks at London subway. Looks at NYC subway. Looks at literally any other subway Yeah, a poorly-made tunnel with cars that fit 2-3 people at a time while requiring each car to have their own driver is very modern and definitely worth environmental violations.
- Ekaros 11mo ago
  Poorly made two way tunnel... Not even two tunnels so you could send traffic to both direction at same time and have actual potential for reasonable capacity.
  - 1718627440 11mo ago
    Not to defend them, but here in Germany you are not allowed to build a single two way tunnel. You always need to build two tunnels being single direction only. This is so that in case of a fire not both directions are unusable. This does not free you from the obligation to also build emergency tunnels.
gs17 11mo ago
> in service of the development of modern subterranean transportation It's not really that, it's a weird parody of "modern subterranean transportation". They could do interesting things with it, but right now it's just private roads. It isn't more efficient than a subway, it isn't more flexible, but it's likely more dangerous.
- sleepybrett 11mo ago
  Cant wait for one of those cars to cook off it's battery pack possibly leading to the car behind it cooking off it's battery pack. And where do the humans in those cars go? Last time I looked at the press around this thing the tunnel is barely wider than the cars. Add fire and smoke and it's just a lot of dead people.
sgerenser 11mo ago
It was only a matter of time before the Elon Musk stans showed up.
regularjack 11mo ago
You only say this because you're not the one suffering the consequences
- guywithahat 11mo ago
  The consequence being additional underground public transport?
  - GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago
    isn't this for cars? as in, private transport? and isn't it specifically for one brand of car?
    - guywithahat 11mo ago
      From what I've seen, there are cars (telsa's) driving in a circle and you grab the next one available. Right now someone is driving it but at some point it's supposed to be autonomous. I think when the tunnel was first built you could drive your own car through it but as far as I'm aware they're not doing that anymore (I think it was just a publicity thing before the tunnels were close enough to completion to use).
tokai 11mo ago
But that's not the trade on offer here.
GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago
i don't think trading irreparable environmental harm for Private Car Hole is utilitarian.
Sohcahtoa82 11mo ago
I would agree with you if that's what the Boring Company is doing. I suggest you actually look into what the the Boring Company's roads in Las Vegas actually are. What you image as subterranean transportation isn't even what BC is striving for.

miltonlost 11mo ago

> modern subterranean transportation Looks at Hyperloop. Looks at London subway. Looks at NYC subway. Looks at literally any other subway Yeah, a poorly-made tunnel with cars that fit 2-3 people at a time while requiring each car to have their own driver is very modern and definitely worth environmental violations.

Ekaros 11mo ago
Poorly made two way tunnel... Not even two tunnels so you could send traffic to both direction at same time and have actual potential for reasonable capacity.
- 1718627440 11mo ago
  Not to defend them, but here in Germany you are not allowed to build a single two way tunnel. You always need to build two tunnels being single direction only. This is so that in case of a fire not both directions are unusable. This does not free you from the obligation to also build emergency tunnels.

gs17 11mo ago

> in service of the development of modern subterranean transportation It's not really that, it's a weird parody of "modern subterranean transportation". They could do interesting things with it, but right now it's just private roads. It isn't more efficient than a subway, it isn't more flexible, but it's likely more dangerous.

sleepybrett 11mo ago
Cant wait for one of those cars to cook off it's battery pack possibly leading to the car behind it cooking off it's battery pack. And where do the humans in those cars go? Last time I looked at the press around this thing the tunnel is barely wider than the cars. Add fire and smoke and it's just a lot of dead people.

sgerenser 11mo ago

It was only a matter of time before the Elon Musk stans showed up.

regularjack 11mo ago

You only say this because you're not the one suffering the consequences

guywithahat 11mo ago
The consequence being additional underground public transport?
- GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago
  isn't this for cars? as in, private transport? and isn't it specifically for one brand of car?
  - guywithahat 11mo ago
    From what I've seen, there are cars (telsa's) driving in a circle and you grab the next one available. Right now someone is driving it but at some point it's supposed to be autonomous. I think when the tunnel was first built you could drive your own car through it but as far as I'm aware they're not doing that anymore (I think it was just a publicity thing before the tunnels were close enough to completion to use).

tokai 11mo ago

But that's not the trade on offer here.

GuinansEyebrows 11mo ago

i don't think trading irreparable environmental harm for Private Car Hole is utilitarian.

Sohcahtoa82 11mo ago

I would agree with you if that's what the Boring Company is doing. I suggest you actually look into what the the Boring Company's roads in Las Vegas actually are. What you image as subterranean transportation isn't even what BC is striving for.