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"Right now if you have a full screen app on your main screen you can't even see what time it is." This drives me crazy. I'm in a flow, distraction free via the

"Right now if you have a full screen app on your main screen you can't even see what time it is." This drives me crazy. I'm in a flow, distraction free via the full screen and break it to see what date or time it is. Even on a multi monitor setup. Which usually ends up meaning I get pulled out of that flow because I see a new notification on some other app or because I grabbed my phone to check that info.

teddyh 1y ago
Addiction issue.
- lukan 1y ago
  But very widespread. Do you never check your phone and realize you are now suddenly doing something completely unrelated? Phones are focus breaking by design. It takes effort, silencing them.
  - tracker1 1y ago
    I live by timers/alarms on my phone... if I don't set an alarm/timer, I'll never break focus for meetings etc.
  - teddyh 1y ago
    > But very widespread. Yes. Does that invalidate the fact? > Do you never check your phone and realize you are now suddenly doing something completely unrelated? How is this relevant? But, no, as it happens, I don’t. > Phones are focus breaking by design. It takes effort, silencing them. Maybe your phone. Those who get an addictive phone may get addicted, and it does take effort to break an addiction.
- messe 1y ago
  That's not on you to say, and pretty fucking tone deaf to boot.
  - teddyh 1y ago
    If someone cannot look at their phone to find out the time without becoming distracted and losing their focus, that’s not a phone problem.
    - wtetzner 1y ago
      Maybe, but why should you have to pull out a separate device to check the time?
- wtetzner 1y ago
  Even if you don't get pulled into something else, having to stop what you're doing to check the time sounds like a bad UI.
komali2 1y ago
Getting a desk clock was a weirdly useful change for me, maybe try that?
- Maken 1y ago
  Which has the added bonus of working even in fullscreen games.
abrouwers 1y ago
I appreciate your dedication. Never once in my career have I been at "I'm so locked in, I can't spare a single second of time to look at another monitor" level of concentration :D
- antnisp 1y ago
  It is not about the time spent looking at the time, it is about being unable to ignore shiny stuff when you get out of fullscreen.
- alecsm 1y ago
  The point is, there's no clock in any other monitor because the top bar is only on the main one. To me it's not about a couple seconds that takes me to look at my phone. It's the inability to have it on all my monitors just like all other DE. And it's not only the time. You can't access your notifications, your app indicator icons or anything you add to that top bar through extensions.
  - abrouwers 1y ago
    Sure - I get the point, but also have never found the top bar on another monitor to be super prohibitive to my production. It's rare that I don't have a spare moment to move the mouse to check notifications (in fact, if they were close to my full-screen work environment, I might be tempted to check them MORE frequently).
  - luqtas 1y ago
    you can literally press Meta/Win key and have Gnome's overview... want something better move to XFCE :P
eek2121 1y ago
FWIW on KDE this is easily doable. I have my taskbars set up with per monitor taskbars as well.I can do pretty much anything while playing a game, watching a movie, etc.
- spookie 1y ago
  Plus, you can add window rules in a nice to use GUI to automagically do it for you!
samtheDamned 1y ago
I don't get the problem with hitting [meta] checking the time real quick, then hitting [meta] and being put back into your work. I do it with full screen games all the time with almost no issues.

teddyh 1y ago

Addiction issue.

lukan 1y ago
But very widespread. Do you never check your phone and realize you are now suddenly doing something completely unrelated? Phones are focus breaking by design. It takes effort, silencing them.
- tracker1 1y ago
  I live by timers/alarms on my phone... if I don't set an alarm/timer, I'll never break focus for meetings etc.
- teddyh 1y ago
  > But very widespread. Yes. Does that invalidate the fact? > Do you never check your phone and realize you are now suddenly doing something completely unrelated? How is this relevant? But, no, as it happens, I don’t. > Phones are focus breaking by design. It takes effort, silencing them. Maybe your phone. Those who get an addictive phone may get addicted, and it does take effort to break an addiction.
messe 1y ago
That's not on you to say, and pretty fucking tone deaf to boot.
- teddyh 1y ago
  If someone cannot look at their phone to find out the time without becoming distracted and losing their focus, that’s not a phone problem.
  - wtetzner 1y ago
    Maybe, but why should you have to pull out a separate device to check the time?
wtetzner 1y ago
Even if you don't get pulled into something else, having to stop what you're doing to check the time sounds like a bad UI.

komali2 1y ago

Getting a desk clock was a weirdly useful change for me, maybe try that?

Maken 1y ago
Which has the added bonus of working even in fullscreen games.

abrouwers 1y ago

I appreciate your dedication. Never once in my career have I been at "I'm so locked in, I can't spare a single second of time to look at another monitor" level of concentration :D

antnisp 1y ago
It is not about the time spent looking at the time, it is about being unable to ignore shiny stuff when you get out of fullscreen.
alecsm 1y ago
The point is, there's no clock in any other monitor because the top bar is only on the main one. To me it's not about a couple seconds that takes me to look at my phone. It's the inability to have it on all my monitors just like all other DE. And it's not only the time. You can't access your notifications, your app indicator icons or anything you add to that top bar through extensions.
- abrouwers 1y ago
  Sure - I get the point, but also have never found the top bar on another monitor to be super prohibitive to my production. It's rare that I don't have a spare moment to move the mouse to check notifications (in fact, if they were close to my full-screen work environment, I might be tempted to check them MORE frequently).
- luqtas 1y ago
  you can literally press Meta/Win key and have Gnome's overview... want something better move to XFCE :P

eek2121 1y ago

FWIW on KDE this is easily doable. I have my taskbars set up with per monitor taskbars as well.I can do pretty much anything while playing a game, watching a movie, etc.

spookie 1y ago
Plus, you can add window rules in a nice to use GUI to automagically do it for you!

samtheDamned 1y ago

I don't get the problem with hitting [meta] checking the time real quick, then hitting [meta] and being put back into your work. I do it with full screen games all the time with almost no issues.