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> Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online. This al

by j0057 1y ago

> Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online. This already the case today, you can't run your bank's app or government eID apps on anything but Google or Apple devices.

ale42 1y ago
True. But it doesn't _need_ to be so, it's actually a problem.
lloydatkinson 1y ago
Back when Microsoft said they were going to let Android apps run on Windows before killing it off for I think the third time, I was excited that I'd be able to run my bank app on my desktop. The app is a simple process to login, but the website has about 50 steps to login making it unappealing to use (probably on purpose).
- Gander5739 1y ago
  You can, aith Windows subsystem for Android. Unsurprisingly, it's not going to be supported for much longer.
- worldsayshi 1y ago
  I get that it wouldn't be optimal but can you run it on an android emulator?
freehorse 1y ago
True, but there are alternatives to using these services, though a bit more inconvenient. What will be the alternative to the age verification mobile app?
logifail 1y ago
> you can't run your bank's app I can log in to my bank account using my desktop PC > government eID apps I can sign into government websites using my desktop PC and its smart card reader and my government-issued eID smartcard. No smartphone needed.
- tarsinge 1y ago
  For now, there is an increasing number of banks and government websites that are broken if you are not using Chrome or full on requires it.
  - agf 1y ago
    This has been true since it stopped being true for Internet Explorer. I've not noticed any significant change over time. I have been using Firefox for over 20 years.
- okanat 1y ago
  Not in EU. Many banks mandate you either have an iPhone or Google approved Android as 2FA. Those fucking idiots have killed their own competition options.
  - Fargren 1y ago
    Yes in EU. I'm in Spain and I sign up to several banks as well as government sites in my desktop PC.
  - yupyupyups 1y ago
    My bank (in the EU) has a fully functional website where I can identify myself using an offline 2fa device.
  - synecdoche 1y ago
    Likewise in Sweden. No bank that I’m aware of is limited to require mobile only login.
    - nextos 1y ago
      Some neobanks are limited to mobile-only. The OP's statement was too general. It's also true that some regular banks are phasing out 2FA via SMS, which is outdated per EU regulations, and may not easily offer alternatives to their app for 2FA codes.
  - 1y ago
anttiharju 1y ago
> This already the case today, you can't run your bank's app or government eID apps on anything but Google or Apple devices. Fairphone 6 with e/OS begs to differ. Dutch phone with a French OS. No issues.
- em-bee 1y ago
  well, my bank's app does not run on /e/OS. i get some kind of security error
  - anttiharju 1y ago
    Responding to an anecdote with another is fair I suppose

by j0057 1y ago

ale42 1y ago

True. But it doesn't _need_ to be so, it's actually a problem.

lloydatkinson 1y ago

Back when Microsoft said they were going to let Android apps run on Windows before killing it off for I think the third time, I was excited that I'd be able to run my bank app on my desktop. The app is a simple process to login, but the website has about 50 steps to login making it unappealing to use (probably on purpose).

Gander5739 1y ago
You can, aith Windows subsystem for Android. Unsurprisingly, it's not going to be supported for much longer.
worldsayshi 1y ago
I get that it wouldn't be optimal but can you run it on an android emulator?

freehorse 1y ago

True, but there are alternatives to using these services, though a bit more inconvenient. What will be the alternative to the age verification mobile app?

logifail 1y ago

> you can't run your bank's app I can log in to my bank account using my desktop PC > government eID apps I can sign into government websites using my desktop PC and its smart card reader and my government-issued eID smartcard. No smartphone needed.

tarsinge 1y ago
For now, there is an increasing number of banks and government websites that are broken if you are not using Chrome or full on requires it.
- agf 1y ago
  This has been true since it stopped being true for Internet Explorer. I've not noticed any significant change over time. I have been using Firefox for over 20 years.
okanat 1y ago
Not in EU. Many banks mandate you either have an iPhone or Google approved Android as 2FA. Those fucking idiots have killed their own competition options.
- Fargren 1y ago
  Yes in EU. I'm in Spain and I sign up to several banks as well as government sites in my desktop PC.
- yupyupyups 1y ago
  My bank (in the EU) has a fully functional website where I can identify myself using an offline 2fa device.
- synecdoche 1y ago
  Likewise in Sweden. No bank that I’m aware of is limited to require mobile only login.
  - nextos 1y ago
    Some neobanks are limited to mobile-only. The OP's statement was too general. It's also true that some regular banks are phasing out 2FA via SMS, which is outdated per EU regulations, and may not easily offer alternatives to their app for 2FA codes.
- 1y ago

anttiharju 1y ago

> This already the case today, you can't run your bank's app or government eID apps on anything but Google or Apple devices. Fairphone 6 with e/OS begs to differ. Dutch phone with a French OS. No issues.

em-bee 1y ago
well, my bank's app does not run on /e/OS. i get some kind of security error
- anttiharju 1y ago
  Responding to an anecdote with another is fair I suppose