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I want a dumb EV. No infotainment system. Just speakers and a way to plug my device into them. Anything critical to the car should be completely air gapped and
by birdfood 1y ago
I want a dumb EV. No infotainment system. Just speakers and a way to plug my device into them. Anything critical to the car should be completely air gapped and require an absolute minimum amount of software, preferably zero.
- inferiorhuman 1y agohttps://configurator.microlino-car.com/en/edition-microlino?id=372577 https://configurator.microlino-car.com/en/edition-microlino?...
- Mistletoe 1y agoCheck out Slate trucks. I want that too and this seems to be perfect. Has windows you roll down even. Fingers crossed it actually launches. https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en
- birdfood 1y agoYeah I’ve seen these posted here previously! Probably the most appealing new car to me at the moment. Hopefully they take off and we can get them outside the US
- inferiorhuman 1y agoHave you seen Telo? https://www.telotrucks.com/ https://www.telotrucks.com/
- esperent 1y agoI've seen this before, and I like the design. It's cute yet functional. It would fit in well on European roads. One thing that stands out to me is the front wheels protrude beyond the body. I don't recall ever seeing that on a consumer road vehicle before, at least one designed after the 1930s.
- inferiorhuman 1y agoYeah, I'd think open-wheel cars are not road legal in the US but I just checked. Apparently it varies by state. Adding fenders seems simple enough at least. Aging Wheels did a video about the Telo and one thing that stood out to me was that they seemed intent on scaling slowly.
- bestouff 1y agoThis thing has no autonomy
- crooked-v 1y agoThere will always be at least a basic screen in new cars in the US because of backup camera requirements.
- bestouff 1y agoYeah, a basic screen with Android Auto + Carplay (just the video passthrough, not the OS with installable apps) would be perfect.
- theandrewbailey 1y agoI work at an ewaste recycling company. Last week, I was testing a projector, and was using a USBC to DVI cable (one of the most cursed cables I've come across). I said "LOL this won't work" and plugged it into my phone. Sure enough, my phone recognized that a display was connected, and once confirmed, showed what I expected it to! Plugging a car into a phone should work like that: just a dumb display with maybe a keyboard or touchscreen input device.
- solardev 1y agoIsn't that essentially what Carplay and Android Auto are? Just over USB?
- FireBeyond 1y agoSome cars fulfill this with a screen in the rear view mirror.
- gambiting 1y agoWe have a Volkswagen e-Up, it's basically that. Analog cluster, a very small radio screen that also displays the world's smallest reverse camera view, and a dashboard mount for your phone. It's a fantastic little car, I honestly like it more than our 400bhp Volvo XC60.
- WayToDoor 1y agoThe e-Up is great, but there is still the remote control modem installed by default that lets Volkswagen « Cloud » and the app control the car remotely, and get data such as the GPS location of the car.
- MaKey 1y agoAs eCall is now mandatory you can't build a car without a cellular modem anymore.
- mkl 1y ago* in the EU. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECall
- gambiting 1y agoExcept the modem doesn't work anymore because it's 3G-only and 3G networks have been switched off in a lot of places, and VW said they won't offer upgraded hardware for it.
- baq 1y agoNobody will sell you one for cheaper than a whole package. See also ‘smart’ tvs vs digital signage displays aka dumb tvs.
- mft_ 1y agoSlate [0] say differently... [0] https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en
- karlgkk 1y agoSlate has not shipped yet.
- kawfey 1y agoI'm hopeful but pessimistic about Slate. There is still time for them to A.) raise prices because of "unforeseen" issues, B.) enshittify with tech or wacky pricing structures.
- karlgkk 1y agoI'm hopeful but pessimistic as well. I'm just tired of hearing about Slate. A relatively small amount of people want a product and they use a company that hasn't shipped as validation of their imaginary market size (this company exists, so tons of people want it!) I hope they're successful.
- mft_ 1y agoI suspect it's a tech bubble thing. Similar to how lots of people online (Reddit, HN, etc.) made a lot of noise about wanting a smaller smart phone. Apple released the iphone 12 mini, it didn't do well commercially, and was fairly quickly discontinued. Most non-tech-bubble-normies cope with crappy in-car systems probably because conceptualising something different is far away from their area of interest and expertise; indeed, many folks actively want/prioritise superficially-impressive tech in their new car. (Lots of people --probably the vast majority-- don't focus on pure usability, privacy, or cybersecurity, when making such decisions.) I'd expect Slate to appeal to people who need a pickup for work (because it's the most similar EV to an old low-spec Toyota/Ford/etc pickup) and for whom range is not an issue, some who want an EV but are price sensitive, and a handful of others who like the underlying concept.
- aembleton 1y agoIf you get the base level, expression trim of the Dacia Spring then you get an EV without an infotainment system: https://www.dacia.co.uk/hybrid-and-electric-range/spring-city-car.html https://www.dacia.co.uk/hybrid-and-electric-range/spring-cit...
- uyzstvqs 1y agoAgreed. I'd actually like to buy an EV, but so far there are no candidates which meet my minimum requirements, which are pretty much what you said + serviceable by any mechanic with aftermarket parts + using Na-ion, not Li-ion batteries. And it shouldn't be super ugly like most new cars are today (e.g. Rivian, VW ID Buzz). Though I'm pretty sure you can't even legally make such a car anymore, at least in Europe, where certain "smart" features are required for new cars. Perhaps a manufacturer of such an EV could put all of that into one box which the user can simply pull out and discard.
- ponector 1y agoSuch car will not comply with legislation. Or are you talking about car with all sort of tracking systems and driver's assists but no infotainment? Anyway, that is not what majority want to buy. Even more, a car is not what majority want to buy in the USA. SUV/trucks are desirable.
- owenversteeg 1y agoThat’s illegal in the EU, 911 eCall requires an always-on cellular connection with an attached device that records your location. Would you please think of the children?
- dotancohen 1y agoWhich wire to snip?