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Ever since Windows gained Terminal and OpenSSH, my usage of Putty has almost entirely ceased except for serial for embedded systems work. Then I realised Putty
by MortyWaves 1y ago
Ever since Windows gained Terminal and OpenSSH, my usage of Putty has almost entirely ceased except for serial for embedded systems work.
Then I realised Putty ships with a CLI version which I now use in Terminal for accessing serial.
- oguz-ismail 1y ago> Terminal Have they fixed font rendering yet? cmd.exe looks better on my laptop
- recursive 1y agoThe first time I ever saw it, the text already looked better than cmd.exe via conhost.
- oguz-ismail 1y agohttps://imgur.com/a/qA1fr71 https://imgur.com/a/qA1fr71 Something wrong with my eyes? Doesn't cmd.exe look smoother in this screenshot?
- MortyWaves 1y agoI find the Terminal more readable because the white seems brighter in your screenshots
- layer8 1y agoThe color is configurable for both.
- mvdtnz 1y agoTerminal looks far better.
- trenchpilgrim 1y agoMy Terminal looks great! https://imgur.com/a/js6Yzxf https://imgur.com/a/js6Yzxf
- MortyWaves 1y agoLooks like you’ve gone for something like the classic text mode 80x25?
- trenchpilgrim 1y agoMore Perfect DOS with a CRT filter, to remind me of my handmedown MS DOS/Win95 PC from elementary school.
- recursive 1y agoI agree. In those screenshots cmd looks better. Not sure what's up.
- DrinkyBird 1y agoIt's the lack of subpixel anti-aliasing (aka ClearType). For some reason it's being erased from a lot of modern software. It's why Windows >= 8 UWP apps and GNOME look so blurry.
- account42 1y agoIt's just another example of why developers shouldn't be given the fanciest tech available (in this case: high DPI screens) so that they have to experience how actual users see their software.
- Kwpolska 1y agocmd looks pixelated.
- Geezus_42 1y agocmd.exe looks worse to me. Particularly because of the lack of padding on the left.
- Lammy 1y agoHave they fixed it spying on you? https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/terminal/issues/139 https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/terminal/issues/139
- crinkly 1y agoWindows is basically spyware at this point. The only way to win is to not play.
- Krssst 1y agoThey probably meant conhost.exe (it gets you the regular console on Windows 11).
- Lammy 1y agoFun fact: if you have Windows Terminal installed, it takes over `conhost.exe` and brings telemetry spying even to old apps which never had it before :D https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/commit/906edf7002b8ccf4d819fcc6f45a68f7815b3252 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/commit/906edf7002b8ccf...
- MortyWaves 1y agoI’ve never noticed any issues on any computer with it…
- throaway920181 1y agoI've only used it through RDP on Wayland and it's been fine visually. Downloading it can be a challenge if you don't know where to look (Github, not Microsoft's App Store...)
- perching_aix 1y agoAre you referring to the pixel-level font smoothing they use by default (as opposed to CMD's subpixel-level font smoothing)? You need to define the "antialiasingMode" key in the settings JSON for the default profile to hold the value "cleartype", rather than "grayscale" (which is the default value). I don't believe this is exposed in the GUI settings page. Note that this only affects the actual terminal emulation area. The rest of the application will still be pixel-level font smoothed (so e.g. the tab titlebars, the settings, etc.).
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- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agoI always used mingw and similar projects. IMO, putty was always annoying (but very useful) software. The "ecosystem" seems better now though.
- MortyWaves 1y agoIndeed, that and “git bash” were always the weird outliers. I’m glad there’s now native options.
- ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 1y agomingw predates git on windows (and in general), but yeah, indeed. interesting to scan the log on that: https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/blob/main/ReleaseNotes.md#changes-since-git-153-preview20071019 https://github.com/git-for-windows/build-extra/blob/main/Rel...
- perching_aix 1y agoI remember my journey trying to disambiguate Git Bash, Git for Windows, MinGW and MSYS2. To this day, I'm still not sure I have the full story right.
- 1oooqooq 1y agojust install msys2. i cannot imagine windows without it. even wsl garbage pales in comparison
- account42 1y agoOne nice thing about putty is that it let's you specify the password on the command line. Can't stand software that doesn't let you make your own decisions.
- throaway920181 1y agoI haven't used Putty since I stopped using Windows for anything serious (in the early 00s.) It was my favorite quick and dirty SSH and serial client before then though!
- sshine 1y agoI have to say, I liked SecureCRT a lot, too. PuTTY was just easier to get ahold of on a new install. I think that's why it won out for me. That and its simplicity.
- Helmut10001 1y agoI don't trust Windows with my SSH keys. Since about 2 years, I am actively preparing my final migration to Linux. There's some Windows software left that I need to replace before this move is possible, but I am close.
- mystifyingpoi 1y agoIs such paranoia warranted? Millions of corporate laptops run Windows 11 just fine. I know M$ is evil and spying on you, but not to such degree.
- miahi 1y agoHaving a Windows 11 corporate laptop with a domain/Entra login, I actually trust it more than a home Windows 11 with a Microsoft account. Because if I lock myself out, I have a contact (corporate support) that is actually interested in helping me recover everything. With a Microsoft account it's a mess. I had so many problems with Microsoft accounts that I lost count of how many I have, and most are broken in some way, because of different issues and different service integrations over time. The Skype account is now useless. I never recovered my paid Minecraft account after one event. With a machine with a local account, now I have to be very careful on what I click related to MS accounts, because trying to solve various issues with Teams, I managed to get the local account linked with that MS account. I spent hours trying to recover a different account after I randomly filled one nagging question about birth date - who wants to give the real birth date to Microsoft - and then I got locked out because I said was underage :). So yes, one of the big issues is the push to have a linked OS account where you have to rely on MS support to solve your issues, otherwise you basically get locked out of your machine and other things you paid for. Also, domain policies offer more control over the corporate PCs (this is how some of the MS spying is shut off on corporate PCs; it's debatable if the corporate spying added by other domain policies is an improvement).
- RyanHamilton 1y agoI have to agree, I've also suffered account problems. I was locked out from an email address I used for 20 years. It refuses to take my password which is still valid. I've changed phone number since 20 years ago so can't use that and the security questions were nonsense as I was a teenager. Originally my account never had phone number, they insisted I add it when they integrated my Skype account perhaps. So I didn't expect access to that phone number to be a strong ongoing requirement.