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Moved to firefox and I am glad I did, I want to use a browser that respects my privacy choices
by ews 1y ago
Moved to firefox and I am glad I did, I want to use a browser that respects my privacy choices
- Madmallard 1y agoApparently no one remembers when Firefox changed their terms of service literally this year to become adversarial toward their own users. Librewolf is the way to go now.
- ranger_danger 1y agoNo thanks. Their own devs have gladly called the project "very woke", and a "certainly quite political project".
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agoYou’ll find that has absolutely nothing to do with the way you choose to use the free software they produce for your benefit.
- jacknews 1y agoso? is the browser any good?
- oceanhaiyang 1y agoIt’s just secured Firefox. I use it and like it
- EasyMark 1y agoI never had firefox pop up and tell me to attend a drag show or that I need to surf more diverse websites than my usual sports and news sites. how is it woke? I don't care what mozilla the org does. They jsut took a big revenue hit because of the decision against google, they won't have much money for any political endeavors other than maybe privacy and free speech on the web very soon
- MKRhere 1y agoThe woke reference is to LibreWolf, not Mozilla. The dev labelled themselves "very woke" and declared the project will not be apolitical. They banned someone from their chatroom for their identity/political affiliation outside the chat, and so on. Regardless of one's political applications, I do agree who you are elsewhere shouldn't matter unless you actually start spewing that in an inappropriate context.
- FeepingCreature 1y agohttps://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/what-we-fund/fellowships-and-awards-directory/ https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/what-we-fund/fellowship... It's mostly harmless, but it's an open question if those are projects that browser donations should fund.
- Laihela 1y agoThese days the term "woke" has lost almost all meaning. It used to mean being "awake" i.e. aware of socio-economic factors in society. Today, as far as I can tell, it simply refers to whatever the big corporations/alt-right doesn't like. Just like how they refer to anything left of oligarchy as "communism". To me them calling themselves "very woke" reads as "we are against anti-human behavior", which is a good thing.
- throwaway328 1y ago> Just like how they refer to anything left of oligarchy as "communism" To the left of oligarchy? I thought it was anything to the left of getting hit repeatedly in the head with a hammer that they labelled as communism? There must have been a massive leftward shift in society since I last checked the news!
- queenkjuul 1y agoWow, a political free software project? Who could imagine such a thing. Anyway sounds like you're trying to convince me to use it
- FeepingCreature 1y ago> Wow, a political free software project? Who could imagine such a thing. Can you imagine the outcry if they'd said the opposite...
- DavideNL 1y agoThe binaries aren't signed… :’( Also, it seems quite vague to me exactly who/what company/entity is behind it.
- oceanhaiyang 1y agoWhat does the binaries not being signed mean? It seems waterfox (?) has a legal entity behind it for your exact reason!
- DavideNL 1y ago> ” What does the binaries not being signed mean?” Signed binaries ensure that the software comes from a trusted source, reducing the risk of tampering and malicious modifications.
- tombert 1y agoI left Firefox a few months ago because there was a bug in their shader cache, so a lot of stuff was laggy. I was willing to put up with until I got a 360 camera and videos were playing at like 2 fps. This was about six months ago, it’s possible that it’s been fixed, I haven’t checked. I am using Brave right now, which seems fine. I have no idea if it actually respects privacy but they at least claim it does.
- nar001 1y agoThat doesn't solve the issue of ManifestV2 being removed though, Brave will have it removed at the same time as Chrome, when it's pulled from the code base
- dotcoma 1y agoBrave have not promised to continue to support uBlock Origin ?
- charcircuit 1y agoBrave has a built in ad blocker.
- dotcoma 1y agoI know, but for some reason I am adding uBlock Origin as well.
- GlitchRider47 1y agonar001 is right. Once it is pulled from Chromium, Brave can no longer support it. Although, Brave's adblocking is just as good out if the box IMO, and it is implemented without the need for Manifest V2, so it will continue to function
- therealpygon 1y agoThey absolutely can continue to support it, that is the entire point of open source. What Chrome or Chromium does by default may make it more difficult, but doesn’t mean it is something that “can no longer” be supported.
- hardwaresofton 1y agoThis is the right answer, and more people (especially technical people like frequent HN) should be pointing this out. "What ads? Oh you must be running Chrome" needs to be the common refrain. Really hope this ends up being a surprising tide shift. Firefox has dipped really hard in marketshare, but there's no reason it can't start to gain again/grow steadily. It's really too bad the Firefox tent wasn't big enough for all the alternative browsers that exist (though of course they're not scratching the surface of real usage either). I skipped the whole Arc wave and I'm glad I did -- it's a distraction from Firefox.
- xaerise 1y agoSadly more than just ads. my ublock/pihole rules is mostly tracking ( +80% ) and very little ad rules.
- ranger_danger 1y agoIt crashes every few days for me and has since the last several major releases... enough that I can't rely on it anymore. (UG) Chromium has never crashed on me once.
- paulryanrogers 1y agoHave you tried disabling hardware acceleration? I've heard some graphics drivers can be crashy when apps push the boundaries. I have had crashes with Firefox in a long time.
- paulryanrogers 1y ago^have not
- b0ner_t0ner 1y agoHighly recommend Zen Browser: https://github.com/zen-browser https://github.com/zen-browser
- qmmmur 1y agoWhat do you like about it?
- nickthegreek 1y agoits got stronger privacy out of the box than stock firefox, modern design, big fan of vertical tabs myself and it now has basic tab folders if enabled by flags. ubo/bpc both work nicely.
- kiliancs 1y agoVertical tabs and tab groups (I suspect it can't be that different from folders but I could be wrong) are available in Firefox.
- const_cast 1y agoAnd they're really good. I'm so glad I've discovered this paradigm. I use a vertical task bar on KDE and a vertical task bar on Windows at work. It's such a huge productivity boost. First, I can see WAY more window previews at one time than before. And second, I can use text to tell the windows apart. 5 Excel workbooks open? No problem, they each have a name. No more clicking on one icon and then squinting at window previews to see which one you need.
- DavideNL 1y ago…yet another Chromium browser though - supporting the Google browser monopoly.
- icar 1y agoIt is based on Firefox…
- dlcarrier 1y agoGo with Pale Moon, if you want a privacy-respecting fork of Firefox.
- EasyMark 1y agoI like librewolf, but it has made similar choices as a fork
- M95D 1y agoBut Firefox is so dependent on google (money, code) that it's absolutely impossible they won't also remove manifest v2. It will just take a little while, for appearances...
- slumberlust 1y agoIt seems disingenuous to penalize a company for something that hasn't happened and is based on an assumption of interest. In the same way we should chastise the platforms that choose to enshitify, we should praise those that hold out.
- M95D 1y ago> assumption of interest But there's no assumption of interest. It's a fact. Not only that, but they did it before. Remember when they removed XUL?
- 93po 1y agoAbout a year ago FF said they had no current plans to remove V2 support, and if they did, they'd give at least 12 month notice. Which to me is basically language saying they absolutely will remove it at some point, otherwise they'd just say "no we'll never remove it, fuck google". I've moved to LibreWolf personally
- citizenpaul 1y agoErrrr....https://winaero.com/mozilla-has-removed-the-do-not-sell-user-data-promise-from-its-agreement/ https://winaero.com/mozilla-has-removed-the-do-not-sell-user...
- rovr138 1y agoDid you look at the FAQ page they created afterwards? 'do not sell user data' is too broad legally. It's a challenge in some jurisdictions. So they removed that. But it's not because they sell the data. They do have partnerships (like they did Pocket for example). In this case, they have anonymous stats that they share with others and that, in some jurisdictions, could fall under 'selling user data'
- KomoD 1y ago> In this case, they have anonymous stats that they share with others and that, in some jurisdictions, could fall under 'selling user data' Correction, they said personal data, which if you go by the EU's definition means "any information that relates to an identified or identifiable living individual". Which wouldn't be "anonymous stats", and can you give an example of a jurisdiction where sharing "anonymous stats" would go under selling personal data? And is "doesn't sell your data to advertisers" also too broad? Because they removed that part too.
- rovr138 1y ago> which if you go by the EU's definition Why go by EU's definition when it's used globally? If it was a single location, or a single law like GDPR, that'd be easy to reword. From the page they launched, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq/ > It seems like every company on the web is buying and selling my data. You’re probably no different. > Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“), and we don’t buy data about you. Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. We still put a lot of work into making sure that the data that we share with our partners (which we need to do to make Firefox commercially viable) is stripped of any identifying information, or shared only in the aggregate, or is put through our privacy preserving technologies (like OHTTP). Specifically, > Since we strive for transparency, and the LEGAL definition of “sale of data“ is extremely broad in some places, we’ve had to step back from making the definitive statements you know and love. If you consider GDPR, even the suggestions on the new tab could send data to third parties and wouldn't be okay with this. Any request done to a third party server, would send them your IP which is PII under GDPR.
- OptionOfT 1y agoI wish Firefox would at least implement a basic adblocker on iOS. Without it, browsing is unbearable. I wonder if they're not allowed to do so because of their contract with Google?
- comprev 1y agoNextDNS [0] has proven very useful for me on iOS. Firefox is 99% ad-free. Only for YouTube do I switch to Brave Browser. I use Firefox on other devices and use the sync functionality so prefer to use it where possible. My home router (Draytek) is also configured to force any connected devices to use NextDNS too. Definitely worth the €20 annual subscription. [0] https://nextdns.io https://nextdns.io
- cassianoleal 1y agoFirefox Focus can be used as an ad-blocker.
- DavideNL 1y agoI agree; i use Firefox on all my Desktop devices. But on iOS it’s the worst. I never use it, except to quickly check for a (synced) bookmark.
- wltr 1y agoDitto!
- ProtoAES256 1y agoIIRC Firefox on iOS is basically a wrapper around Safari since it's not "opened up"?