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Linkwarden: FOSS self-hostable bookmarking with AI-tagging and page archival

301 points by FireInsight 1y ago

nickfixit 1y ago
I like hoarder(karakeep). It's got an API and mcp server as well to play with now locally and self hosted. I'll check this out as well.
FireInsight 1y ago
No experience with this yet, but looking to upgrade from Linkding. Main features I'm looking forward to is syncing the bookmarks with native browsers bookmarks through Floccus, and being able to make highlights on the articles I save.
belter 1y ago
As of this moment...This post has 4 points and 2 comments...How does it make to number 3 on HN page?
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
  Velocity. Obviously, I don't really know and speculating only. Still, the project does look nice. I personally use archivebox, but I will admit this looks a lot more polished.
Magma7404 1y ago
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- bovermyer 1y ago
  Jeez man, who crapped in your Cheerios this morning? I hope your day gets better.
- Vinz_ 1y ago
  The first version was released in July 2023, I don’t see why this would shut down in two months. This comment makes a lot of assumptions but does not substantiate any of them, please refrain from dunking on other peoples projects like this, it does not contribute anything to the discussion.
human_llm 1y ago
This looks interesting. How feature-crippled is the self hosted version?
- dugite-code 1y ago
  Not at all as far as I am aware. I use floccus to sync my bookmarks to it and it does the job quite well
mikae1 1y ago
See also: https://www.linkace.org/ https://www.linkace.org/ (my fave) https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://motd.co/2023/09/postmarks-launch/ https://motd.co/2023/09/postmarks-launch/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://linkhut.org/ https://linkhut.org/
- tummler 1y ago
  Also: https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep
- s17tnet 1y ago
  https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox
- jamroom 1y ago
  I've tried most archiving/bookmarking self hosted solutions I could find and the one I like the best is: https://readeck.org/en/ https://readeck.org/en/
- ydj 1y ago
  One more: https://conifer.rhizome.org/ https://conifer.rhizome.org/ This one seems to be directly related to the webrecorder project which seems like a pretty full featured warc recorder.
- renegat0x0 1y ago
  https://bookmarkos.com/ https://bookmarkos.com/ https://grimoire.pro/ https://grimoire.pro/ https://hoarder.app/ https://hoarder.app/ https://mymind.com/ https://mymind.com/ https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://zotero.org/ https://zotero.org/
xnx 1y ago
I have yet to find anything that has the effort vs. results benefit of CTRL+S -> "Webpage, Single File (*.mhtml)". Even works on mobile.
- FireInsight 1y ago
  Tagging, full-text search, page highlights, a nice UI,... You might call that bloat, I don't. Besides, I could not find any equivalent to ctrl-s the webpage on mobile Firefox.
  - xnx 1y ago
    > I could not find any equivalent to ctrl-s the webpage on mobile Firefox. True. There used to be an extension that enabled the hidden code path, but that stopped working years ago. I switched to Kiwi browser.
virtualcharles 1y ago
As a paid product, has anyone used Raindrop as well and have opinions/comparisons? And on the self hosted side, vs Hoarder? I’ve been considering switching from Raindrop to a self hosted option, but while I like self hosting I’m also leaning towards just paying someone to handle this particular service for me.
- regularjack 1y ago
  I also use raindrop, but been looking at self-hosted alternatives as raindrop does not encrypt the data, so I can't use it for work stuff.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  I tried Raindrop, but it was not usable to me because it constantly logged you out.
- flashblaze 1y ago
  I have been using Raindrop and like it quite a bit
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  I pay for Raindrop, very useful to have someone else run it, minimal cost.
- exhilaration 1y ago
  I've never heard of raindrop and it looks cool but I see the .ru in one of their screenshots -- are they based in Russia? Any concerns with doing business with a Russian company, in the context of sanctions etc.?
  - mwnivek 1y ago
    Rustem Mussabekov on 24 Oct 2023 wrote: "I'm founder of Raindrop.io. I'd like to clarify information about the origin of myself and the project. While I did live in Russia for a long time and initially started Raindrop there, I relocated to my motherland, Kazakhstan, shortly after the war began. I also moved all financial and business matters there. I am no longer associated with Russia in any way. It would be great if this information could be added to the article." Source: https://numericcitizen.me/when-war-in-ukraine-influences-my-application-choices/ https://numericcitizen.me/when-war-in-ukraine-influences-my-...
daniel31x13 1y ago
Hello everyone, I’m the main developer behind Linkwarden. Glad to see it getting some attention here! Some key features of the app (at the moment): - Text highlighting - Full page archival - Full content search - Optional local AI tagging - Sync with browser (using Floccus) - Collaborative Also, for anyone wondering, all features from the cloud plan are available to self-hosted users :)
- yapyap 1y ago
  Very very neat! a question arose for me though: if the AI tagging is self hostable as well, how taxing is it for the hardware, what would the minimum viable hardware be?
  - daniel31x13 1y ago
    Thanks! A lightweight model like the phi3:mini-4k is enough for this feature.[1] It’s worth mentioning that you can also use external providers like OpenAI and Anthropic to tag the links for you. [1]: https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/ai-worker https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/ai-worker
- dikdok 1y ago
  > Full page archival Does it grab the DOM from my browser as it sees it? Or is it a separate request? If so, how does it deal with authentication?
  - daniel31x13 1y ago
    So there are different ways it archives a webpage. It currently stores the full webpages as a single html file, a screenshot, a pdf, a read-it-later view. Aside from that, you can also send the webpages to the Wayback Machine to take a snapshot. To archive pages behind a login or paywall, you can use the browser extension, which captures an image of the webpage in the browser and sends it to the server.
    - dikdok 1y ago
fuzzy2 1y ago
Started using it a while back. Works rather well, even though some minor UX quirks exist. Self-hosting is easy, too, with Docker Compose. If you're in the market for a web-accessible bookmark manager, maybe give it a go!
nexle 1y ago
The pushing on their cloud offering almost everywhere (main page: https://linkwarden.app/ https://linkwarden.app/, GitHub README: https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden, and installation guide: https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/installation https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/installation) just give me a bad taste about it. I understood an open source project need revenue to survive, but the reason why this project grew so large is because of the self-hostable nature, and the push of the cloud offering is the opposite of that. I really hope this is not the first steps towards enshittification...
- ctxc 1y ago
  Nah, I just see this as a sustainable way to keep the project alive :)
ibaikov 1y ago
Recently started selfhosting it. I like it. I tried hoarder, but it was overcomplicated and consumed way more resources. Now it got MCP, so I might use it with n8n, we'll see. A couple improvements I'd like: I want drag-and-drop link saving. If I add a reddit link, it doesn't import the reddit thread title, it uses reddit's title in linkwarden (Reddit - the heart of the internet). Same goes for a few other websites like gitlab. I'd like an MCP. Resource usage optimization: while it is smaller than karakeep/hoarder, for me it consumes 500-950MB ram, and I have only 500 links added.
gibibit 1y ago
Is there any software that can provide verified, trusted archives of websites? For example, we can go to the Wayback Machine at archive.org to not only see what a website looked like in the past, but prove it to someone (because we implicitly trust The Internet Archive). But the Wayback Machine has deleted sites when a site later changes its robots.txt to exclude it, meaning that old site REALLY disappears from the web forever. The difficulty for a trusted archive solution is in proving that the archived pages weren't altered, and that the timestamp of the capture was not altered. It seems like blockchain would be a big help, and would prevent back-dating future snapshots, but there seem to be a lot of missing pieces still. Thoughts?
- shrinks99 1y ago
  Webrecorder's WACZ signing spec (https://specs.webrecorder.net/wacz-auth/latest https://specs.webrecorder.net/wacz-auth/latest) does some of this — authenticating the identity of who archived it and at what time — but the rest of what you're asking for (legitimacy of the content itself) is an unsolved problem as web content isn't all signed by its issuing server. In some of the case studies Starling (https://www.starlinglab.org/ https://www.starlinglab.org/) has published, they've published timestamps of authenticated WACZs to blockchains to prove that they were around at a specific time... More _layers_ of data integrity but not 100% trustless.
  - gibibit 1y ago
    Very informative, thanks!
- dj0k3r 1y ago
  Take a look at singleFile - a project that lets you save the entire webpage. It has an integration for saving the hash if the page on a Blockchain. You can choose to set it up between parties who're interested in the provenance of the authenticity.
- mitya777 1y ago
  we pull the contents of any publicly-posted links and write them onto big block bitcoin blockchain https://home.treechat.ai/quest/8ca85b16-739c-4b7a-8376-38bc0b8406d3 https://home.treechat.ai/quest/8ca85b16-739c-4b7a-8376-38bc0...
sloped 1y ago
This looks nice, I like how many of these tools have been surfacing. I recently started using https://readeck.org/ https://readeck.org/, which aims to solve some of the same problems and really like it. Much better than a "bookmark" tool for things like articles. My two favorite parts of Readeck are: - it provides a OPDS catalog of your saved content so you can very easily read things on your e-book reader of choice. I use KOReader on a Kindle and have really enjoyed reading my saved articles in the backyard after work. - you can generate a share link. I have used this to share some articles behind paywalls with friends and family where before I was copying and pasting content into an email.
xwat 1y ago
The only issue stopping me from using Linkwarden is that it creates duplicates when importing bookmarks, see https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/442 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/442
idkalexj 1y ago
An alt suggestion, I use Eagle (https://eagle.cool/ https://eagle.cool/) for this. I started using it primarily for images inspiration collecting but it has grown into my "everything" collecting, including bookmarks. Libraries can be shared via file sharing (e.g. google drive, dropbox), one time purchase price, amazing software design, extensions, and more.
- nemomarx 1y ago
  Is it Mac only temporarily or do you think they'll stick with that?
  - InsideOutSanta 1y ago
    Eagle has a Windows version.
raybb 1y ago
Just wish it had offline support. That's really the main use case for me is when I'm traveling and have spotty internet. Read articles offline and hopefully add some to the queue to be saved when I'm online again.
- daniel31x13 1y ago
  We’re working on an official mobile app[1], which will most likely include this feature sometime after its launch :) [1]: https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/246#issuecomment-2826821585 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/246#issuecom...
  - csdvrx 1y ago
    Will the offline mode work on laptops?
  - raybb 1y ago
    An official app with that sounds great! From what you know, would it be possible to also have offline support with the PWA?
evanjrowley 1y ago
I've been using Karakeep (formerly known as Hoarder) and it's been a great experience so far. One thing they're working on now is a Safari browser extension. I noticed Linkwarden lacks a Safari browser extension - is one on the roadmap? Lately I've been using MacOS and I've noticed Chromium-based browsers use more resources than the native Safari. This is especially true with Microsoft Edge, which sometimes consumes tens of gigabytes of RAM (possibly a memory leak?). In an attempt to preserve battery life and SSD longevity, Safari is now my go-to browser on MacOS.
- InsideOutSanta 1y ago
  I'm also using Karakeep. It also has LLM-powered tagging, which, in my experience, works excellently. It's easy to self-host, fast on a relatively underpowered NAS, and I love the UX. Highly recommended. Linkwarden looks nice, too, but when picking an option, I wanted one with a native Android app.
  - piyuv 1y ago
    I chose linkwarden after seeing hoarder’s native iOS app
    - evanjrowley 1y ago
      Bitter irony is that the one with the best iOS app is lacking a Safari extension, while the one with a mediocre iOS app already has a beta Safari extension.
manmal 1y ago
I‘m a heavy user and really happy with the speed and stability I‘m getting, running Linkwarden on my Hetner VPS. Only problem was in the beginning, importing a lot of existing links from Pinboard, the available RAM of my meager VPS was exceeded multiple times by metadata resolution. But once that‘s been overcome, it’s a zero effort tool.
aiono 1y ago
Looks really neat. But it also seems a bit heavyweight (for the client). Is it the case compared to https://readeck.org/en/ https://readeck.org/en/ ?
- lilerjee 1y ago
  There is a lightweight bookmark manager https://metaesn.com https://metaesn.com , not only manage bookmarks, but also other resources (notes, articles, etc.)
salynchnew 1y ago
Very cool project! QQ for users: How is the UX compared with ArchiveBox?
dennisy 1y ago
I love these sorts of apps, but I still am not really sure why I need the webpages. At any time I do research for a topic I find more things than I can read in that session, so what are the old links for? I would love to hear how people use this product once they have stored the links!
- Lammy 1y ago
  I haven't tried Linkwarden (still doing the `wget --mirror` thing myself), but one of the reasons I like archiving pages is so I can have a collection of pages that work in older browsers on vintage computers. I pop open View Source on any site I find that looks even vaguely old, and if I see a DOCTYPE up to and including XHTML 1.1 I archive that shit immediately even if it's not a site about any of my biggest interests lol
- ryan29 1y ago
  I've used https://historio.us https://historio.us since 2011 and still pay for it to keep access to all the pages I've archived over the years. The price has been kept low enough that I can't bring myself to cancel it even though I've been using self-hosted https://archivebox.io/ https://archivebox.io/ for the last few years. I always include an archived link whenever I reference something in documentation. That's my main use at the moment. However, I also feel like I've gotten a lot of really good value when trying to learn a new development topic. Whenever I find something that looks like it might be useful, I archive it and, because everything is searchable, I end up with a searchable index of really high quality content once I actually know what I'm doing. I find it hard to rediscover content via web search these days and there's so much churn that having a personal archive of useful content is going to increase in value, at least in my opinion.
  - touristtam 1y ago
    How much space is the self-hosted solution taking? I've been meaning to try and find a better way to look through my bookmarks since no browser is capable of doing that properly it seems.
spyder 1y ago
There is also KaraKeep: https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep Seems very similar.
ijustwanttovote 1y ago
I'm paying for readwise, any benefits of switching over to this?
- borg16 1y ago
  it's a third of the price to begin with. I think readwise has a winner in reader app, but they sure do charge a premium for the same. You can get the same functionality in linkwarden or pinboard for a fraction of readwise's subscription pricing.
carterschonwald 1y ago
Is there a way to import pinboard or similar data?
- daniel31x13 1y ago
  Yes, you can import any kind of bookmarks html files. There are also other importing formats we do support as well like Wallabag, Omnivore, etc…
bravura 1y ago
I want LLM accessible bookmarks. That's it. It doesn't work yet. I use singlefile to archive pages I'm viewing Linkding. Then I have a BeautifulScript4 script to strip the assets. Then I use Jina's ReaderLM v2 to render the HTML to proper Markdown: https://huggingface.co/jinaai/ReaderLM-v2 https://huggingface.co/jinaai/ReaderLM-v2 Except, of course, for longer table oriented text documents like HN that doesn't work. I want a plaintext archive of web pages in a github repo or similar. Not a fancy UI/UX
- touristtam 1y ago
  Links: - SingleFile: https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile - Linkding: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding - BeautifulScript4: https://beautiful-soup-4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://beautiful-soup-4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ (assumed that was the python library Beautiful Soup 4 and not "Script")
adityamwagh 1y ago
I personally use Raindrop.io [0]. I have used it for more than 3 years and it does it's job very well. [0] http://raindrop.io/ http://raindrop.io/
agnishom 1y ago
I recently started using Hoarder for this; once Omnivore went down under... https://hoarder.app https://hoarder.app
rrgok 1y ago
I tried with the demo, but full content search does not work. I don't know if the demo is randomly generated, anyway this is the test I did. Text to search in the top search bar: RRP Page that contains that term: https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/r1-jailbreak.html https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/r1-jailbreak.html Result found: 0 Does this search the content of the archived pages?
- SansGuidon 1y ago
  Could be related to this as well -> https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586 where content seems imported but its indexation is stuck in the queue. Blocker for me.
  - bflesch 1y ago
    the trap of using indexation and a database when normal grep would work with disk-based storage
    - SansGuidon 1y ago
      Exactly... so much hype around complexity when simplicity wins. That's also why such systems like Wallabag, Linkwarden, Omnivore etc all disappointed me. In the end with a simple system made of static files and tools available out of the box on most distributions, I could make my own alternative to most archiving/bookmarking management systems and it just works. No DB, no framework, no fancy UI. Yet powerful. I have to blog about it.
      - rrgok 1y ago
        Do you mind sharing your approach? I've been looking for a system where I can store all kind of data (webpage, pdf, images, docx, xlsx...) and can fast full-text search on them. Oddly enough, that what a filesystem should do, but sadly that's not gonna happen. Can grep and the like search on images or docx? I know there is FileLocator Pro, but I'm looking for a cross-platform tool.
9_BAR 1y ago
Howdy -- I just spun up my own instance yesterday, as it turns out. Very slick! I've already converted from NextCloud's Bookmark manager. Quick suggestion: I like to maintain separate browser configurations (in this case, using top-level collections named "Vivaldi," "Chrome," etc.). What might be nice is the ability to link other (non-browser) collections. So, if I create a collection of news blog websites, I can turn around and include those in each browser collection. That way, those news blog sites are centrally maintained once. In other words, browser collections become assemblies. Let me know what you think!
snapplebobapple 1y ago
This is an excellent bookmark sync tool by way of floccus integration
simonebrunozzi 1y ago
> Unlock 14 days of Premium Service at no cost! So, I assume you want me to pay per month. No, thank you. I'd pay you $10 or $20, once, and use the app forever.
- sergiomattei 1y ago
  Shouldn't this dev be compensated for their ongoing labor and cloud computing costs?

301 points by FireInsight 1y ago

I like hoarder(karakeep). It's got an API and mcp server as well to play with now locally and self hosted. I'll check this out as well.

FireInsight 1y ago

No experience with this yet, but looking to upgrade from Linkding. Main features I'm looking forward to is syncing the bookmarks with native browsers bookmarks through Floccus, and being able to make highlights on the articles I save.

belter 1y ago

As of this moment...This post has 4 points and 2 comments...How does it make to number 3 on HN page?

A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y ago
Velocity. Obviously, I don't really know and speculating only. Still, the project does look nice. I personally use archivebox, but I will admit this looks a lot more polished.

Magma7404 1y ago

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bovermyer 1y ago
Jeez man, who crapped in your Cheerios this morning? I hope your day gets better.
Vinz_ 1y ago
The first version was released in July 2023, I don’t see why this would shut down in two months. This comment makes a lot of assumptions but does not substantiate any of them, please refrain from dunking on other peoples projects like this, it does not contribute anything to the discussion.

human_llm 1y ago

This looks interesting. How feature-crippled is the self hosted version?

dugite-code 1y ago
Not at all as far as I am aware. I use floccus to sync my bookmarks to it and it does the job quite well

mikae1 1y ago

See also: https://www.linkace.org/ https://www.linkace.org/ (my fave) https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://github.com/jonschoning/espial https://motd.co/2023/09/postmarks-launch/ https://motd.co/2023/09/postmarks-launch/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://linkhut.org/ https://linkhut.org/

tummler 1y ago
Also: https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep
s17tnet 1y ago
https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox
jamroom 1y ago
I've tried most archiving/bookmarking self hosted solutions I could find and the one I like the best is: https://readeck.org/en/ https://readeck.org/en/
ydj 1y ago
One more: https://conifer.rhizome.org/ https://conifer.rhizome.org/ This one seems to be directly related to the webrecorder project which seems like a pretty full featured warc recorder.
renegat0x0 1y ago
https://bookmarkos.com/ https://bookmarkos.com/ https://grimoire.pro/ https://grimoire.pro/ https://hoarder.app/ https://hoarder.app/ https://mymind.com/ https://mymind.com/ https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://betula.mycorrhiza.wiki/ https://zotero.org/ https://zotero.org/

xnx 1y ago

I have yet to find anything that has the effort vs. results benefit of CTRL+S -> "Webpage, Single File (*.mhtml)". Even works on mobile.

FireInsight 1y ago
Tagging, full-text search, page highlights, a nice UI,... You might call that bloat, I don't. Besides, I could not find any equivalent to ctrl-s the webpage on mobile Firefox.
- xnx 1y ago
  > I could not find any equivalent to ctrl-s the webpage on mobile Firefox. True. There used to be an extension that enabled the hidden code path, but that stopped working years ago. I switched to Kiwi browser.

virtualcharles 1y ago

As a paid product, has anyone used Raindrop as well and have opinions/comparisons? And on the self hosted side, vs Hoarder? I’ve been considering switching from Raindrop to a self hosted option, but while I like self hosting I’m also leaning towards just paying someone to handle this particular service for me.

regularjack 1y ago
I also use raindrop, but been looking at self-hosted alternatives as raindrop does not encrypt the data, so I can't use it for work stuff.
carlosjobim 1y ago
I tried Raindrop, but it was not usable to me because it constantly logged you out.
flashblaze 1y ago
I have been using Raindrop and like it quite a bit
toomuchtodo 1y ago
I pay for Raindrop, very useful to have someone else run it, minimal cost.
exhilaration 1y ago
I've never heard of raindrop and it looks cool but I see the .ru in one of their screenshots -- are they based in Russia? Any concerns with doing business with a Russian company, in the context of sanctions etc.?
- mwnivek 1y ago
  Rustem Mussabekov on 24 Oct 2023 wrote: "I'm founder of Raindrop.io. I'd like to clarify information about the origin of myself and the project. While I did live in Russia for a long time and initially started Raindrop there, I relocated to my motherland, Kazakhstan, shortly after the war began. I also moved all financial and business matters there. I am no longer associated with Russia in any way. It would be great if this information could be added to the article." Source: https://numericcitizen.me/when-war-in-ukraine-influences-my-application-choices/ https://numericcitizen.me/when-war-in-ukraine-influences-my-...

daniel31x13 1y ago

Hello everyone, I’m the main developer behind Linkwarden. Glad to see it getting some attention here! Some key features of the app (at the moment): - Text highlighting - Full page archival - Full content search - Optional local AI tagging - Sync with browser (using Floccus) - Collaborative Also, for anyone wondering, all features from the cloud plan are available to self-hosted users :)

yapyap 1y ago
Very very neat! a question arose for me though: if the AI tagging is self hostable as well, how taxing is it for the hardware, what would the minimum viable hardware be?
- daniel31x13 1y ago
  Thanks! A lightweight model like the phi3:mini-4k is enough for this feature.[1] It’s worth mentioning that you can also use external providers like OpenAI and Anthropic to tag the links for you. [1]: https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/ai-worker https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/ai-worker
dikdok 1y ago
> Full page archival Does it grab the DOM from my browser as it sees it? Or is it a separate request? If so, how does it deal with authentication?
- daniel31x13 1y ago
  So there are different ways it archives a webpage. It currently stores the full webpages as a single html file, a screenshot, a pdf, a read-it-later view. Aside from that, you can also send the webpages to the Wayback Machine to take a snapshot. To archive pages behind a login or paywall, you can use the browser extension, which captures an image of the webpage in the browser and sends it to the server.
  - dikdok 1y ago

fuzzy2 1y ago

Started using it a while back. Works rather well, even though some minor UX quirks exist. Self-hosting is easy, too, with Docker Compose. If you're in the market for a web-accessible bookmark manager, maybe give it a go!

nexle 1y ago

The pushing on their cloud offering almost everywhere (main page: https://linkwarden.app/ https://linkwarden.app/, GitHub README: https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden, and installation guide: https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/installation https://docs.linkwarden.app/self-hosting/installation) just give me a bad taste about it. I understood an open source project need revenue to survive, but the reason why this project grew so large is because of the self-hostable nature, and the push of the cloud offering is the opposite of that. I really hope this is not the first steps towards enshittification...

ctxc 1y ago
Nah, I just see this as a sustainable way to keep the project alive :)

ibaikov 1y ago

Recently started selfhosting it. I like it. I tried hoarder, but it was overcomplicated and consumed way more resources. Now it got MCP, so I might use it with n8n, we'll see. A couple improvements I'd like: I want drag-and-drop link saving. If I add a reddit link, it doesn't import the reddit thread title, it uses reddit's title in linkwarden (Reddit - the heart of the internet). Same goes for a few other websites like gitlab. I'd like an MCP. Resource usage optimization: while it is smaller than karakeep/hoarder, for me it consumes 500-950MB ram, and I have only 500 links added.

gibibit 1y ago

Is there any software that can provide verified, trusted archives of websites? For example, we can go to the Wayback Machine at archive.org to not only see what a website looked like in the past, but prove it to someone (because we implicitly trust The Internet Archive). But the Wayback Machine has deleted sites when a site later changes its robots.txt to exclude it, meaning that old site REALLY disappears from the web forever. The difficulty for a trusted archive solution is in proving that the archived pages weren't altered, and that the timestamp of the capture was not altered. It seems like blockchain would be a big help, and would prevent back-dating future snapshots, but there seem to be a lot of missing pieces still. Thoughts?

shrinks99 1y ago
Webrecorder's WACZ signing spec (https://specs.webrecorder.net/wacz-auth/latest https://specs.webrecorder.net/wacz-auth/latest) does some of this — authenticating the identity of who archived it and at what time — but the rest of what you're asking for (legitimacy of the content itself) is an unsolved problem as web content isn't all signed by its issuing server. In some of the case studies Starling (https://www.starlinglab.org/ https://www.starlinglab.org/) has published, they've published timestamps of authenticated WACZs to blockchains to prove that they were around at a specific time... More _layers_ of data integrity but not 100% trustless.
- gibibit 1y ago
  Very informative, thanks!
dj0k3r 1y ago
Take a look at singleFile - a project that lets you save the entire webpage. It has an integration for saving the hash if the page on a Blockchain. You can choose to set it up between parties who're interested in the provenance of the authenticity.
mitya777 1y ago
we pull the contents of any publicly-posted links and write them onto big block bitcoin blockchain https://home.treechat.ai/quest/8ca85b16-739c-4b7a-8376-38bc0b8406d3 https://home.treechat.ai/quest/8ca85b16-739c-4b7a-8376-38bc0...

sloped 1y ago

This looks nice, I like how many of these tools have been surfacing. I recently started using https://readeck.org/ https://readeck.org/, which aims to solve some of the same problems and really like it. Much better than a "bookmark" tool for things like articles. My two favorite parts of Readeck are: - it provides a OPDS catalog of your saved content so you can very easily read things on your e-book reader of choice. I use KOReader on a Kindle and have really enjoyed reading my saved articles in the backyard after work. - you can generate a share link. I have used this to share some articles behind paywalls with friends and family where before I was copying and pasting content into an email.

xwat 1y ago

The only issue stopping me from using Linkwarden is that it creates duplicates when importing bookmarks, see https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/442 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/442

idkalexj 1y ago

An alt suggestion, I use Eagle (https://eagle.cool/ https://eagle.cool/) for this. I started using it primarily for images inspiration collecting but it has grown into my "everything" collecting, including bookmarks. Libraries can be shared via file sharing (e.g. google drive, dropbox), one time purchase price, amazing software design, extensions, and more.

nemomarx 1y ago
Is it Mac only temporarily or do you think they'll stick with that?
- InsideOutSanta 1y ago
  Eagle has a Windows version.

raybb 1y ago

Just wish it had offline support. That's really the main use case for me is when I'm traveling and have spotty internet. Read articles offline and hopefully add some to the queue to be saved when I'm online again.

daniel31x13 1y ago
We’re working on an official mobile app[1], which will most likely include this feature sometime after its launch :) [1]: https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/246#issuecomment-2826821585 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/246#issuecom...
- csdvrx 1y ago
  Will the offline mode work on laptops?
- raybb 1y ago
  An official app with that sounds great! From what you know, would it be possible to also have offline support with the PWA?

evanjrowley 1y ago

I've been using Karakeep (formerly known as Hoarder) and it's been a great experience so far. One thing they're working on now is a Safari browser extension. I noticed Linkwarden lacks a Safari browser extension - is one on the roadmap? Lately I've been using MacOS and I've noticed Chromium-based browsers use more resources than the native Safari. This is especially true with Microsoft Edge, which sometimes consumes tens of gigabytes of RAM (possibly a memory leak?). In an attempt to preserve battery life and SSD longevity, Safari is now my go-to browser on MacOS.

InsideOutSanta 1y ago
I'm also using Karakeep. It also has LLM-powered tagging, which, in my experience, works excellently. It's easy to self-host, fast on a relatively underpowered NAS, and I love the UX. Highly recommended. Linkwarden looks nice, too, but when picking an option, I wanted one with a native Android app.
- piyuv 1y ago
  I chose linkwarden after seeing hoarder’s native iOS app
  - evanjrowley 1y ago
    Bitter irony is that the one with the best iOS app is lacking a Safari extension, while the one with a mediocre iOS app already has a beta Safari extension.

manmal 1y ago

I‘m a heavy user and really happy with the speed and stability I‘m getting, running Linkwarden on my Hetner VPS. Only problem was in the beginning, importing a lot of existing links from Pinboard, the available RAM of my meager VPS was exceeded multiple times by metadata resolution. But once that‘s been overcome, it’s a zero effort tool.

aiono 1y ago

Looks really neat. But it also seems a bit heavyweight (for the client). Is it the case compared to https://readeck.org/en/ https://readeck.org/en/ ?

lilerjee 1y ago
There is a lightweight bookmark manager https://metaesn.com https://metaesn.com , not only manage bookmarks, but also other resources (notes, articles, etc.)

salynchnew 1y ago

Very cool project! QQ for users: How is the UX compared with ArchiveBox?

dennisy 1y ago

I love these sorts of apps, but I still am not really sure why I need the webpages. At any time I do research for a topic I find more things than I can read in that session, so what are the old links for? I would love to hear how people use this product once they have stored the links!

Lammy 1y ago
I haven't tried Linkwarden (still doing the `wget --mirror` thing myself), but one of the reasons I like archiving pages is so I can have a collection of pages that work in older browsers on vintage computers. I pop open View Source on any site I find that looks even vaguely old, and if I see a DOCTYPE up to and including XHTML 1.1 I archive that shit immediately even if it's not a site about any of my biggest interests lol
ryan29 1y ago
I've used https://historio.us https://historio.us since 2011 and still pay for it to keep access to all the pages I've archived over the years. The price has been kept low enough that I can't bring myself to cancel it even though I've been using self-hosted https://archivebox.io/ https://archivebox.io/ for the last few years. I always include an archived link whenever I reference something in documentation. That's my main use at the moment. However, I also feel like I've gotten a lot of really good value when trying to learn a new development topic. Whenever I find something that looks like it might be useful, I archive it and, because everything is searchable, I end up with a searchable index of really high quality content once I actually know what I'm doing. I find it hard to rediscover content via web search these days and there's so much churn that having a personal archive of useful content is going to increase in value, at least in my opinion.
- touristtam 1y ago
  How much space is the self-hosted solution taking? I've been meaning to try and find a better way to look through my bookmarks since no browser is capable of doing that properly it seems.

spyder 1y ago

There is also KaraKeep: https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep https://github.com/karakeep-app/karakeep Seems very similar.

ijustwanttovote 1y ago

I'm paying for readwise, any benefits of switching over to this?

borg16 1y ago
it's a third of the price to begin with. I think readwise has a winner in reader app, but they sure do charge a premium for the same. You can get the same functionality in linkwarden or pinboard for a fraction of readwise's subscription pricing.

carterschonwald 1y ago

Is there a way to import pinboard or similar data?

daniel31x13 1y ago
Yes, you can import any kind of bookmarks html files. There are also other importing formats we do support as well like Wallabag, Omnivore, etc…

bravura 1y ago

I want LLM accessible bookmarks. That's it. It doesn't work yet. I use singlefile to archive pages I'm viewing Linkding. Then I have a BeautifulScript4 script to strip the assets. Then I use Jina's ReaderLM v2 to render the HTML to proper Markdown: https://huggingface.co/jinaai/ReaderLM-v2 https://huggingface.co/jinaai/ReaderLM-v2 Except, of course, for longer table oriented text documents like HN that doesn't work. I want a plaintext archive of web pages in a github repo or similar. Not a fancy UI/UX

touristtam 1y ago
Links: - SingleFile: https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile https://github.com/gildas-lormeau/SingleFile - Linkding: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding - BeautifulScript4: https://beautiful-soup-4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://beautiful-soup-4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ (assumed that was the python library Beautiful Soup 4 and not "Script")

adityamwagh 1y ago

I personally use Raindrop.io [0]. I have used it for more than 3 years and it does it's job very well. [0] http://raindrop.io/ http://raindrop.io/

agnishom 1y ago

I recently started using Hoarder for this; once Omnivore went down under... https://hoarder.app https://hoarder.app

rrgok 1y ago

I tried with the demo, but full content search does not work. I don't know if the demo is randomly generated, anyway this is the test I did. Text to search in the top search bar: RRP Page that contains that term: https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/r1-jailbreak.html https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/r1-jailbreak.html Result found: 0 Does this search the content of the archived pages?

SansGuidon 1y ago
Could be related to this as well -> https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586 https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/586 where content seems imported but its indexation is stuck in the queue. Blocker for me.
- bflesch 1y ago
  the trap of using indexation and a database when normal grep would work with disk-based storage
  - SansGuidon 1y ago
    Exactly... so much hype around complexity when simplicity wins. That's also why such systems like Wallabag, Linkwarden, Omnivore etc all disappointed me. In the end with a simple system made of static files and tools available out of the box on most distributions, I could make my own alternative to most archiving/bookmarking management systems and it just works. No DB, no framework, no fancy UI. Yet powerful. I have to blog about it.
    - rrgok 1y ago
      Do you mind sharing your approach? I've been looking for a system where I can store all kind of data (webpage, pdf, images, docx, xlsx...) and can fast full-text search on them. Oddly enough, that what a filesystem should do, but sadly that's not gonna happen. Can grep and the like search on images or docx? I know there is FileLocator Pro, but I'm looking for a cross-platform tool.

9_BAR 1y ago

Howdy -- I just spun up my own instance yesterday, as it turns out. Very slick! I've already converted from NextCloud's Bookmark manager. Quick suggestion: I like to maintain separate browser configurations (in this case, using top-level collections named "Vivaldi," "Chrome," etc.). What might be nice is the ability to link other (non-browser) collections. So, if I create a collection of news blog websites, I can turn around and include those in each browser collection. That way, those news blog sites are centrally maintained once. In other words, browser collections become assemblies. Let me know what you think!

snapplebobapple 1y ago

This is an excellent bookmark sync tool by way of floccus integration

simonebrunozzi 1y ago

> Unlock 14 days of Premium Service at no cost! So, I assume you want me to pay per month. No, thank you. I'd pay you $10 or $20, once, and use the app forever.

sergiomattei 1y ago
Shouldn't this dev be compensated for their ongoing labor and cloud computing costs?