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Visual internet content is completely over. Pack it up

by nmilo 1y ago

oortoo 1y ago
For starters, this completely blocks generation of anything remotely related to copy-protected IPs, which may actually be a saving grace for some creatives. There's a lot of demand for fanart of existing characters, so until this type of model can be run locally, the legal blocks in place actually give artists some space to play in where they don't have to compete with this. At least for a short while.
- OhioMan2943 1y ago
  Despite likely being trained on and stealing from copy protected ips? Not sure if they've changed their approach to training data
- z7 1y ago
  >For starters, this completely blocks generation of anything remotely related to copy-protected IPs It did Dragon Ball Z here: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_image_generator_released_today_is_so_good https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_im... Rick and Morty: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_image_generator_released_today_is_so_good/mjpvh24 https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_im... South Park: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjyn5q/openais_new_4o_image_generation_is_insane/mjrdc4c https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjyn5q/openais_ne...
- CaptainFever 1y ago
  Fan-art is still illegal, especially since a lot of fan artists are doing it commercially nowadays via commissions and Patreon. It's just that companies have stopped bothering to sue for it because individual artists are too small to bother with, and it's bad PR. (Nintendo did take down a super popular Pokemon porn comic, though.) So it's ironic in this sense, that OpenAI blocking generation of copyrighted characters means that it's more in compliance with copyright laws than most fan artists out there, in this context. If you consider AI training to be transformative enough to be permissible, then they are more copyright-respecting in general. Source: https://lawsoup.org/legal-guides/copyright-protecting-creative-artistic-business-work/fan-art/ https://lawsoup.org/legal-guides/copyright-protecting-creati...
- petesergeant 1y ago
  I’ve had it do Tintin and the Simpsons in the last hour, so no, it doesn’t
jay_kyburz 1y ago
So I spent a good few hours investigating the current state of the art a few weeks ago. I would like to generate a collection of images for the art in a video game. It is incredibly difficult to develop an art style, then get the model to generate a collection of different images in that unique art style. I couldn't work out how to do it. I also couldn't work out how to illustrate the same characters or objects in different contexts. AI seems great for one off images you don't care much about, but when you need images to communicate specific things, I think we are still a long way away.
- vunderba 1y ago
  Even with custom LoRas, controlnets, etc. we're still a pretty long ways from being able to one-click generate thematically consistent images especially in the context of a video game where you really need the ability to generate seamless tiles, animation based spritesheets, etc.
- nestorD 1y ago
  Short answer: the model is good at consistency. You can use it to generate a set a style reference images, then use those as reference for all your subsequent generations. Generating in the same chat might also help it have further consistency between images.
  - jay_kyburz 1y ago
    Sorry that wasn't a question, I was saying they models were not good at constancy in my evaluation.
    - raincole 1y ago
      In terms of prompt adherence and consistency, the current state of art just changed dramatically today and you're in the very thread about the change. Your evaluation, done a few weeks ago, isn't relevant anymore.
      - 1y ago

Visual internet content is completely over. Pack it up

by nmilo 1y ago

Visual internet content is completely over. Pack it up

For starters, this completely blocks generation of anything remotely related to copy-protected IPs, which may actually be a saving grace for some creatives. There's a lot of demand for fanart of existing characters, so until this type of model can be run locally, the legal blocks in place actually give artists some space to play in where they don't have to compete with this. At least for a short while.

OhioMan2943 1y ago
Despite likely being trained on and stealing from copy protected ips? Not sure if they've changed their approach to training data
z7 1y ago
>For starters, this completely blocks generation of anything remotely related to copy-protected IPs It did Dragon Ball Z here: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_image_generator_released_today_is_so_good https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_im... Rick and Morty: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_image_generator_released_today_is_so_good/mjpvh24 https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjtcn9/the_new_im... South Park: https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjyn5q/openais_new_4o_image_generation_is_insane/mjrdc4c https://old.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1jjyn5q/openais_ne...
CaptainFever 1y ago
Fan-art is still illegal, especially since a lot of fan artists are doing it commercially nowadays via commissions and Patreon. It's just that companies have stopped bothering to sue for it because individual artists are too small to bother with, and it's bad PR. (Nintendo did take down a super popular Pokemon porn comic, though.) So it's ironic in this sense, that OpenAI blocking generation of copyrighted characters means that it's more in compliance with copyright laws than most fan artists out there, in this context. If you consider AI training to be transformative enough to be permissible, then they are more copyright-respecting in general. Source: https://lawsoup.org/legal-guides/copyright-protecting-creative-artistic-business-work/fan-art/ https://lawsoup.org/legal-guides/copyright-protecting-creati...
petesergeant 1y ago
I’ve had it do Tintin and the Simpsons in the last hour, so no, it doesn’t

jay_kyburz 1y ago

So I spent a good few hours investigating the current state of the art a few weeks ago. I would like to generate a collection of images for the art in a video game. It is incredibly difficult to develop an art style, then get the model to generate a collection of different images in that unique art style. I couldn't work out how to do it. I also couldn't work out how to illustrate the same characters or objects in different contexts. AI seems great for one off images you don't care much about, but when you need images to communicate specific things, I think we are still a long way away.

vunderba 1y ago
Even with custom LoRas, controlnets, etc. we're still a pretty long ways from being able to one-click generate thematically consistent images especially in the context of a video game where you really need the ability to generate seamless tiles, animation based spritesheets, etc.
nestorD 1y ago
Short answer: the model is good at consistency. You can use it to generate a set a style reference images, then use those as reference for all your subsequent generations. Generating in the same chat might also help it have further consistency between images.
- jay_kyburz 1y ago
  Sorry that wasn't a question, I was saying they models were not good at constancy in my evaluation.
  - raincole 1y ago
    In terms of prompt adherence and consistency, the current state of art just changed dramatically today and you're in the very thread about the change. Your evaluation, done a few weeks ago, isn't relevant anymore.
    - 1y ago