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why can't we boycott china instead they have higher tariffs and support russia even more than usa

ben_w 1y ago
China isn't trying to buy Greenland — currently part of Denmark — and refusing to rule out military force when the inevitable answer of "no" is given.
- mytailorisrich 1y ago
  The US aren't trying to buy Greenland as they haven't made any offers (as far as we know). They did make an actual offer in 1946, though, and that apparently didn't sour relations... Trump's way seems to involve a lot of bluster so seeing through it, what are they trying to do, really? Apparently there has been a surge in pro-independence parties in the latest elections in Greenland, perhaps that is a clue. A side note is that Denmark hasn't been very strategic. They let Greenland leave the EC/EU, they let them self-govern... this is a path to losing it altogether.
  - esseph 1y ago
    There is a possible play being put together. • China -> Taiwan (eventually) • Russia -> Ukraine • US -> Greenland I keeping hearing this from DC circles.
  - watwut 1y ago
    Trump and conservatives have a cycle of: First saying they want to do the bad thing. People listen and take it seriously. Then "center" come and try to gaslight and accuse everyone of paranoia. Then conservatives and Trump do the bad thing. Then center shows Pikachu face "who could have know" and proceed to euphemism about what just happened, trying to excuse and explain it away.
- blackeyeblitzar 1y ago
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  - ben_w 1y ago
    > A part of Denmark is quite a euphemism for Denmark subjugating a people that want to be independent, that Denmark has no right to. 1) The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. 2) It's not a euphemism, that's just how "country" works as a concept in international law. See also: "Catalonia is part of Spain", "Navajo Nation is part of the USA", and "Canada became a country on July 1st, 1867"
    - blackeyeblitzar 1y ago
      > The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. My comment did not mention the US. The key point is that Greenlanders don’t want to be slaves to Denmark. It’s a euphemism because your comment - and Danes and the EU in general - don’t seem to recognize that colonialism is alive and well in Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. That’s why virtually all the political parties in Greenland support independence. As for this euphemism: > China isn't trying to buy Greenland This is just a euphemism to justify the lack of any concern over European economic ties with the authoritarian dictatorship that rules China. If Europe wants to divorce from the US due to its principles, they should first have no business ties with China whatsoever. This thing about Greenland is not even remotely a justification for continued support of the CCP.
      - twixfel 1y ago
        It’s the US that is divorcing from Europe, not the other way around. The US has seemingly decided to betray Western civilisation and become just another barbaric shithole like Russia and Iran.
      - timeon 1y ago
        > My comment did not mention the US. So are you hijacking discussion? Because topic is on Denmark-USA relation.
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    - 1y ago

China isn't trying to buy Greenland — currently part of Denmark — and refusing to rule out military force when the inevitable answer of "no" is given.

mytailorisrich 1y ago
The US aren't trying to buy Greenland as they haven't made any offers (as far as we know). They did make an actual offer in 1946, though, and that apparently didn't sour relations... Trump's way seems to involve a lot of bluster so seeing through it, what are they trying to do, really? Apparently there has been a surge in pro-independence parties in the latest elections in Greenland, perhaps that is a clue. A side note is that Denmark hasn't been very strategic. They let Greenland leave the EC/EU, they let them self-govern... this is a path to losing it altogether.
- esseph 1y ago
  There is a possible play being put together. • China -> Taiwan (eventually) • Russia -> Ukraine • US -> Greenland I keeping hearing this from DC circles.
- watwut 1y ago
  Trump and conservatives have a cycle of: First saying they want to do the bad thing. People listen and take it seriously. Then "center" come and try to gaslight and accuse everyone of paranoia. Then conservatives and Trump do the bad thing. Then center shows Pikachu face "who could have know" and proceed to euphemism about what just happened, trying to excuse and explain it away.
blackeyeblitzar 1y ago
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- ben_w 1y ago
  > A part of Denmark is quite a euphemism for Denmark subjugating a people that want to be independent, that Denmark has no right to. 1) The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. 2) It's not a euphemism, that's just how "country" works as a concept in international law. See also: "Catalonia is part of Spain", "Navajo Nation is part of the USA", and "Canada became a country on July 1st, 1867"
  - blackeyeblitzar 1y ago
    > The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. My comment did not mention the US. The key point is that Greenlanders don’t want to be slaves to Denmark. It’s a euphemism because your comment - and Danes and the EU in general - don’t seem to recognize that colonialism is alive and well in Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. That’s why virtually all the political parties in Greenland support independence. As for this euphemism: > China isn't trying to buy Greenland This is just a euphemism to justify the lack of any concern over European economic ties with the authoritarian dictatorship that rules China. If Europe wants to divorce from the US due to its principles, they should first have no business ties with China whatsoever. This thing about Greenland is not even remotely a justification for continued support of the CCP.
    - twixfel 1y ago
      It’s the US that is divorcing from Europe, not the other way around. The US has seemingly decided to betray Western civilisation and become just another barbaric shithole like Russia and Iran.
    - timeon 1y ago
      > My comment did not mention the US. So are you hijacking discussion? Because topic is on Denmark-USA relation.
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