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Unfortunately, iOS simply does not allow apps like Briar to run reliably in the background[1]. Unless Apple changes its thinking about iOS, Briar or other simi
by mmwelt 2y ago
Unfortunately, iOS simply does not allow apps like Briar to run reliably in the background[1]. Unless Apple changes its thinking about iOS, Briar or other similar apps would never work reliably.
[1] https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525 https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/685525
- tough 2y agoThere's AltStore sideloading, would that enable it?
- ivanmontillam 2y agoIt's not an issue of sideloading or censorship in iOS. It's a product decision related to background apps (they kill the running process with no recourse to bring it up again on its own).
- dlenski 2y agoAs I understand it, only Apple's own apps get the magical blessing to run in the background whenever they want.
- gkbrk 2y agoHmm, seems anti-competitive.
- actionfromafar 2y agoAnti trust enforcement was tried briefly at the turn of the century but was deemed unprofitable for oligarchs, so it is no longer in fashion.
- Georgelemental 2y agoEh, it has seen a mini resurgence recently
- immibis 2y agoIn Europe it's been ruled that since Apple makes no pretense of being competitive, they don't have to be, while Google has to actually deliver on their open platform promises.
- mikepurvis 2y agoThis affects other Bluetooth-using apps too, like the Fitbit app needs to be periodically restarted in order to get data synced from a tracker.
- lostmsu 2y agoI actually have an app in iOS store that completely executes in the background: https://itunes.apple.com/app/id6737482921?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/app/id6737482921?mt=8 Never had it stopped by iOS. So not only there's no fundamental restriction, the App Store itself allows some apps to do that.
- monocularvision 2y agoWhat API are you using to keep running in the background? Most likely you are misusing it on some manner and have yet to get caught by App Review.
- idle_zealot 2y agoI've seen this bypassed via background audio and background location.
- lostmsu 2y agoThe app does background audio, and its use is legitimate. It is an audio app. But the point is - there's no fundamental restriction from the OS itself.
- redserk 2y agoYou contradicted yourself. Whether you want to call it a “restriction”, “a lack of permission without being X type of activity”, or “it works because the app exhibits Y behavior”, it’s all functionally a restriction. You can run some background activities that are not audio apps, but you’re at the mercy of iOS’s decision to keep your task active or not. If you’re off the charger, all bets are off. iOS’s dev docs make this very clear.
- lostmsu 2y agoNo, basic set theory: not every restriction is a fundamental restriction.
- Zambyte 2y agoPeople have the power to not use iPhones, and should exercise it.
- doublerabbit 2y agoOkay, buy me an Android then.
- ParetoOptimal 2y agoIf you bought an iPhone you could buy an Android.
- doublerabbit 2y agoBut I don't want an Android. So if you desire for me to use Android, buy me an Android.
- pessimizer 2y agoAdvice is not desire. I advise you to keep batteries in your fire alarm, but I don't personally care enough to buy you any.
- doublerabbit 2y agoDidn't really sound like advice. And thats we are different. I would.
- ctm92 2y agoSwitching ecosystems is a huge pain, I started with iPhone and eventually moved to Android and back again to iPhone. When you use a lot of the Apple/Google Services, it's not really easy to just switch over
- immibis 2y agoIt's only Apple that does this lock-in thing, IME. Google also has services, but they're not as important or inseparable.