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> flip-flop so quickly The timing and phrasing make it clear that this was planned and negotiated in advance, and the shutdown was just for show in order to be
by blahedo 2y ago
> flip-flop so quickly
The timing and phrasing make it clear that this was planned and negotiated in advance, and the shutdown was just for show in order to be able to post a memo about how "President Trump" saved it. If actual negotiation had to occur, it would not have happened in the twelve hours between midnight and noon on Sunday morning.
The point of the stunt was to persuade large numbers of younger folks that the Ds are the bad guys and Trump in particular is the hero. And it'll work as designed.
- iknowSFR 2y agoWhat’s the evidence of this? It seems highly plausible but do we have any proof besides speculation?
- willis936 2y agoMy partner uses TikTok and was greeted with a message today saying that DJT saved the app. That isn't possible because he isn't president yet. It's all very embarrassing.
- lubujackson 2y agoAlso the CEO of TikTok is going to sit directly behind Trump at the inauguration. It's not even subtle and half the point is that it isn't subtle - bend the knee to Trump and you'll be taken care of, is the message. We operate just like Russia at this point. Also, expect to see that Facebook is partnering with TikTok on Monday morning. The head of the bill banning TikTok just invested 100 million in Meta... so I imagine there will be a followup announcement how Trump brokered some deal to Americanize TikTok or something.
- ceejayoz 2y agoI got an internal ad on Facebook telling me to connect my TikTok account the other day. https://imgur.com/a/yCOpifC https://imgur.com/a/yCOpifC
- threecheese 2y agoWe’ve also started seeing TT ads on Reels, and a brand new blue-checked Facebook account appeared on TT yesterday and rapidly gained 100Ks of followers.
- pizza 2y ago> Also, expect to see that Facebook is partnering with TikTok on Monday morning. The head of the bill banning TikTok just invested 100 million in Meta... so I imagine there will be a followup announcement how Trump brokered some deal to Americanize TikTok or something. Wait, if this is truly what this outcome was about, this seems.. huge? Can you share more information about that?
- throwawayq3423 2y agoI'm old enough to remember when selling out the American people to the CCP would have been a career ending scandal.
- pjc50 2y agoSelling them out to the Iranians? Pardoned and the person involved got a job on Fox News (Oliver North). Selling them out to the Russians? Well, it worked fine last time, a bunch of minor figures went to jail, but the boss remained untouched. So why not sell out to the Chinese? Remember, it's only illegal when a Democrat does it.
- 1659447091 2y ago> Also, expect to see that Facebook is partnering with TikTok on Monday morning. The head of the bill banning TikTok just invested 100 million in Meta... so I imagine there will be a followup announcement how Trump brokered some deal to Americanize TikTok or something. Well, that makes this interesting. The bill also allowed a 90-day extension if they found a buyer and were in the process of finalizing it. This may put this cringe ByteDance stunt and Meta/Zuck's pandering to Trump into more perspective. The Hero coming to save the day with a magical 90-day extension. As long as everyone plays their scripted part. On the other hand, it's probably just a funny timed coincidence that will pass in 3 months [added] The president would have to approve any sale of apps caught in this law
- mquander 2y agoIt's possible for people who aren't currently the president to do things.
- ceejayoz 2y ago“Be President while the other guy still is” is not one of them.
- wat10000 2y agoThere isn’t enough time for the current President to enforce this. A convincing pledge from the incoming guy that he’ll allow them to continue operating is all it would take. How you get a convincing pledge out of this guy, I have no idea, but apparently they believe it.
- Applejinx 2y agoHe's also telling them to buy a shitcoin. It's all very well believing he magically saved TikTok, but I think there's a lot that will be real hard to swallow. The cycles between FA and FO are getting really, really quick…
- anon7000 2y agoThe current president already said he didn’t intend to enforce the ban anyways.
- agumonkey 2y agoI don't think I will be able to handle 5 more years of this without moving in a very remote place and limited information streams.
- throwaway173738 2y agoI’m going to go found a place I’ll call Galt’s Gulch for maximum irony.
- arp242 2y agoI'd pay good money for a newspaper that would go out of its way to avoid mentioning Trump, Musk, and all these other highly exasperating people, unless it's completely unavoidable (e.g. "Trump declares war on California").
- somenameforme 2y agoIf you mean because they used the term "President Trump", that honorific is for life. See, for instance, the recent passing of President Carter for a million examples. If you mean because he couldn't have executed legal actions yet - he could have offered private and legally binding statements to all the major players - Oracle, Apple, and Google.
- magicalist 2y ago> he could have offered private and legally binding statements No, he couldn't? It's not even clear he'll be able to do anything with an executive order when he is sworn in, but President elects certainly can't.
- somenameforme 2y agoI don't know why you think he couldn't. A legally binding statement of intent to offer TikTok the 90-day window and work out a "deal" once in office would be more than sufficient justification for the heads of the various companies involved to ease enforcement until things become more resolved.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> A legally binding statement of intent to offer TikTok the 90-day window and work out a "deal" once in office Would not be legally binding. The President cannot unilaterally bind the U.S., and he is free to make and break statements of intent.
- anon7000 2y agoPresidents are allowed to offer legally binding political favors in private?
- somenameforme 2y agoCalling it a political favor is quite silly. He stated he was likely overturn it for months now, but the public indirect phrasing was probably not sufficient for the involved actors to feel was sufficient to act on, a private statement of definitive intent would be.
- spacecadet 2y agoOh maybe the very clear messaging in the app and by the inbound administration, who is heavily supported by tech elites. The same people who have been very open about their feelings towards opposition and who and what they support. No one will come out and claim this was the case, but its not like they are trying to hide it either.
- mihaaly 2y agoDo you need to eat shit to know it is shit? Isn't it enough to see, smell, you have to touch and eat it repeatedly so you can conclude: yes, this is shit. You are now expert in shit eating and the professional opinion is that this is really shit, no mistake is made here!?
- kec 2y agoIf that’s the case this was totally bungled, the app was down for less than 12 hours, overnight during a weekend. If they wanted maximum effect Trump wouldn’t have tweeted until 5pm eastern to give people a chance to come to terms with the shutdown actually happening.
- mr_toad 2y ago> If actual negotiation had to occur, it would not have happened in the twelve hours A spur of the moment decision would be more like Trump than a lengthy negotiation.