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Firefox on ChromeOS sucks though. Just went through this, tried Canary, etc. Went back to Chrome.

by jldl805 2y ago

olyjohn 2y ago
Bypass ChromeOS alltogether. Use a different Linux distro.
- jldl805 2y ago
  I do. But I have a chromebook too.
likeabatterycar 2y ago
Just ChromeOS? Firefox on Mac sucks. Here is one example: Firefox's tracking of the mouse cursor is broken, and often (yes, it's inconsistent) applies a vector translation so when trying to click something like a button or menu, the cursor needs to be about 100 x-y pixels away from the target. Only Firefox native UI is affected. These are My_First_Program.app tier bugs that should not exist in mature, 20 year old software. Phoenix 0.1 didn't have this many beginner bugs. Mozilla has lost its way and only continues to exist because Google funds them to be a paper tiger competitor. Opera sold out to the Chinese. Microsoft gave up and now simps Google. Apple only supports their own platform. What is left?
- grecy 2y ago
  I’ve been using Firefox on OS X since forever (never jumped to chrome and back) and I’ve never experienced this. Is there a bug report? Surely this would get a lot of attention.
- ben_w 2y ago
  > Here is one example: Firefox's tracking of the mouse cursor is broken, and often (yes, it's inconsistent) applies a vector translation so when trying to click something like a button or menu, the cursor needs to be about 100 x-y pixels away from the target. Only Firefox native UI is affected. These are My_First_Program.app tier bugs that should not exist in mature, 20 year old software. While I've not noticed that myself, just yesterday I noticed something similarly weird. I had a Safari window that was persistently half the screen width and height away from where the mouse was. As in: click to drag, and the whole window jumped half the screen down and to the right, so I couldn't get it to any other quadrant of any screen. Fixed on restarting the app. I don't know if that was an app bug or an OS bug, but in either case it's Apple's fault. How did we get to this?
- stuartd 2y ago
  Been using Firefox as my browser since 0.2 (Minefield, Phoenix was later) on Mac since around 10.3 and I don’t recognise what you’re seeing at all?
- benterix 2y ago
  Can you provide a link to a bug report? I've been using FF on macOS for years and haven't noticed that. Maybe it's just a bug on a random site?
  - likeabatterycar 2y ago
    Maybe I wasn't clear - this bug affects me personally, it's not some random tale I read in a forum. No, it doesn't affect the site or page rendering at all. Only the Firefox-native dialogs - like the bookmarks dialog and the hamburger menu - are affected. The bug is likely in XUL. Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others...
    - GranPC 2y ago
      FWIW I used to experience the same thing sporadically on Mac, about 10 years ago. Not just you - but a rare bug.
    - slenk 2y ago
      > Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others... So, if no one reports the bug, how do you expect the bug to get fixed? Instead, you just keep harking back on that unfixed bug whenever Firefox conversations come up and you can be like "but this bug has been around and no one has fixed it"
      - jiggawatts 2y ago
        Are you kidding? Firefox is notorious for having bugs open in core features for over a decade! I’ve found outright broken code, narrowed it down to the specific line, included documentation references, repro steps, etc… only to be totally ignored by the devs. I did get comments from several thousand other frustrated users, but never a Mozilla employee other than the occasional generic or automated housekeeping message. Sadly the Mozilla Foundation has been overrun by special interest groups that simply want to suckle at the teat of Google funding. Millions of dollars are allocated to outright corruption, but very nearly zero to development of Firefox itself. It’s a slow but certain road from here to a sad end. Why would I or anyone else pretend otherwise? At the expense of our own time and effort no less?
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  For me, the scroll randomly breaks and stops work all together for a minute.
- hadrien01 2y ago
  I've seen the exact same problem on my mother's Mac and it's making her crazy. Haven't found a corresponding bug report, but it's sort of reassuring she's not alone with that annoying bug
  - likeabatterycar 2y ago
    Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy.
- yumraj 2y ago
  So one inconsistent bug, that only happens for a small subset and there’s no bug report filed makes FF suck on Macs. Hyperbole much?
  - likeabatterycar 2y ago
    No, it's one example of an otherwise broken and lacklustre browser. It's the only browser that has issues with website functionality.
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Kwpolska 2y ago
Get a real computer.
- jldl805 2y ago
  I have like 8 running right now lol. 3 linux, 4 windows, 1 chromeos.
youngtaff 2y ago
A decent alternative to ChromeOS would be a great thing
- mdaniel 2y ago
  pour one out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS I don't know if this qualifies for your definition of alternative, but ChromiumOS does exist https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/

Firefox on ChromeOS sucks though. Just went through this, tried Canary, etc. Went back to Chrome.

olyjohn 2y ago

Bypass ChromeOS alltogether. Use a different Linux distro.

jldl805 2y ago
I do. But I have a chromebook too.

likeabatterycar 2y ago

Just ChromeOS? Firefox on Mac sucks. Here is one example: Firefox's tracking of the mouse cursor is broken, and often (yes, it's inconsistent) applies a vector translation so when trying to click something like a button or menu, the cursor needs to be about 100 x-y pixels away from the target. Only Firefox native UI is affected. These are My_First_Program.app tier bugs that should not exist in mature, 20 year old software. Phoenix 0.1 didn't have this many beginner bugs. Mozilla has lost its way and only continues to exist because Google funds them to be a paper tiger competitor. Opera sold out to the Chinese. Microsoft gave up and now simps Google. Apple only supports their own platform. What is left?

grecy 2y ago
I’ve been using Firefox on OS X since forever (never jumped to chrome and back) and I’ve never experienced this. Is there a bug report? Surely this would get a lot of attention.
ben_w 2y ago
> Here is one example: Firefox's tracking of the mouse cursor is broken, and often (yes, it's inconsistent) applies a vector translation so when trying to click something like a button or menu, the cursor needs to be about 100 x-y pixels away from the target. Only Firefox native UI is affected. These are My_First_Program.app tier bugs that should not exist in mature, 20 year old software. While I've not noticed that myself, just yesterday I noticed something similarly weird. I had a Safari window that was persistently half the screen width and height away from where the mouse was. As in: click to drag, and the whole window jumped half the screen down and to the right, so I couldn't get it to any other quadrant of any screen. Fixed on restarting the app. I don't know if that was an app bug or an OS bug, but in either case it's Apple's fault. How did we get to this?
stuartd 2y ago
Been using Firefox as my browser since 0.2 (Minefield, Phoenix was later) on Mac since around 10.3 and I don’t recognise what you’re seeing at all?
benterix 2y ago
Can you provide a link to a bug report? I've been using FF on macOS for years and haven't noticed that. Maybe it's just a bug on a random site?
- likeabatterycar 2y ago
  Maybe I wasn't clear - this bug affects me personally, it's not some random tale I read in a forum. No, it doesn't affect the site or page rendering at all. Only the Firefox-native dialogs - like the bookmarks dialog and the hamburger menu - are affected. The bug is likely in XUL. Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others...
  - GranPC 2y ago
    FWIW I used to experience the same thing sporadically on Mac, about 10 years ago. Not just you - but a rare bug.
  - slenk 2y ago
    > Unfortunately I am too busy to dig through Bugzilla, make an account, etc. only for the bug to be ignored for years like the others... So, if no one reports the bug, how do you expect the bug to get fixed? Instead, you just keep harking back on that unfixed bug whenever Firefox conversations come up and you can be like "but this bug has been around and no one has fixed it"
    - jiggawatts 2y ago
      Are you kidding? Firefox is notorious for having bugs open in core features for over a decade! I’ve found outright broken code, narrowed it down to the specific line, included documentation references, repro steps, etc… only to be totally ignored by the devs. I did get comments from several thousand other frustrated users, but never a Mozilla employee other than the occasional generic or automated housekeeping message. Sadly the Mozilla Foundation has been overrun by special interest groups that simply want to suckle at the teat of Google funding. Millions of dollars are allocated to outright corruption, but very nearly zero to development of Firefox itself. It’s a slow but certain road from here to a sad end. Why would I or anyone else pretend otherwise? At the expense of our own time and effort no less?
anal_reactor 2y ago
For me, the scroll randomly breaks and stops work all together for a minute.
hadrien01 2y ago
I've seen the exact same problem on my mother's Mac and it's making her crazy. Haven't found a corresponding bug report, but it's sort of reassuring she's not alone with that annoying bug
- likeabatterycar 2y ago
  Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy.
yumraj 2y ago
So one inconsistent bug, that only happens for a small subset and there’s no bug report filed makes FF suck on Macs. Hyperbole much?
- likeabatterycar 2y ago
  No, it's one example of an otherwise broken and lacklustre browser. It's the only browser that has issues with website functionality.
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Kwpolska 2y ago

Get a real computer.

jldl805 2y ago
I have like 8 running right now lol. 3 linux, 4 windows, 1 chromeos.

youngtaff 2y ago

A decent alternative to ChromeOS would be a great thing

mdaniel 2y ago
pour one out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_OS I don't know if this qualifies for your definition of alternative, but ChromiumOS does exist https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/