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There’s nothing grammatically offensive about this. It’s like saying, “Cars come in all colors. Mine is red.”
by jacobsimon 2y ago
There’s nothing grammatically offensive about this. It’s like saying, “Cars come in all colors. Mine is red.”
- simonw 2y agoNo, I'm complaining that just because GPT-4 is called GPT-4 doesn't mean it's the fourth LLM from OpenAI. Off the top of my head: GPT-2, Codex, GPT-3 in three different flavors (babbage, curie, davinci), GPT-3.5. Suggesting that GPT-4 was "fourth" simply isn't credible. Just the other day they announced a jump from o1 to o3, skipping o2 purely because it's already the name of a major telecommunications brand in Europe. Deriving anything from the names of OpenAI's products doesn't make sense.
- benatkin 2y agoWhile I’m sure it’s unintentional, that amounts to nitpicking. I can easily find three to include and pass over the rest. Face value turns out to be a decent approximation.
- simonw 2y agoIf this was a random blog post I wouldn't nitpick, but this is the Wall Street Journal.
- benatkin 2y agoThe thing is that I think it could be an optimal way of saying it. Should we not put it into context of making a particular LLM? Why count three versions of three LLMs? They made it hard to choose the one that makes up for not having GPT 1. GPT 3.5 and Codex are both good candidates. And of course calling GPT 4 the third and fifth could be considered as well.
- simonw 2y ago"OpenAI's fourth family of LLMs" or "fourth generation of LLMs" would work for me.
- benatkin 2y agoThat doesn’t resolve the problem of whether third or fifth is better than fourth. I have yet to be convinced that their wording here shows that they fail to grasp the pace of the development.
- vasco 2y agoImagine coming up with a naming scheme for the versioning of your product just for it to fail on the second time you want to use it.
- zapnuk 2y agoShould have used chatGPT to ask for a name or at least check it
- xanderlewis 2y agoIt’s somehow funny to hear a British company being described as ‘in Europe’, but I suppose you’re technically correct…
- simonw 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_(brand) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_(brand) - "O2 (typeset as O2) is a global brand name owned by the Spanish telecommunications company Telefónica"
- xanderlewis 2y agoIt’s a British brand, even if it’s now owned by someone else. It even says so on the page you link to.
- plufz 2y agoTechnically…? Does anyone here believe that the EU and Europe is the same thing? Would you find it weird if someone said that a Norwegian company was in Europe?
- xanderlewis 2y agoMany people certainly seem to! And it annoys me. I wasn’t talking about the EU, though. I was just commenting on the fact that in the UK, ‘Europe’ generally means ‘continental Europe’. > Would you find it weird if someone said that a Norwegian company was in Europe? I’d find it weird if a European did. But from Americans it’s to be expected.
- RandomThoughts3 2y ago[flagged]
- dgfitz 2y agoNo no no you missed it, clearly Americans are just stupid.
- bluelightning2k 2y agoThere's at least 4 major releases just in GPT4. GPT4, GPT4T, Gpt4o-Mini, GPT4o,
- lelandfe 2y agoIt’s more like saying “the Audi Quattro, the company’s fourth car…”
- benatkin 2y agoBecause there’s an Audi Tre e Mezzo?
- dghlsakjg 2y agoThe issue isn't the grammar. It is that there are 5 distinct LLMs from OpenAI that you can use right now as well as 4 others that were deprecated in 2024.