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I'm pretty sure DeviantArt stopped being about actual "art" long before AI. Years ago I deleted my account because I didn't want to see my posts next to furry

by Tronno 2y ago

I'm pretty sure DeviantArt stopped being about actual "art" long before AI. Years ago I deleted my account because I didn't want to see my posts next to furry scribbles, softcore porn, and other low-skill fetish adjacent crap. Professional digital artists post at Artstation now from what I can tell.

LeoPanthera 2y ago
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- sureIy 2y ago
  I watch porn but I don’t want porn on every site I use. Skill has nothing to do with it, it’s that adult content is generally meant for a different response from “awe”. Some fringe content is downright disgusting and so far away from art that some people should put their pencils down and go to therapy.
  - Freak_NL 2y ago
    Wanting to avoid pornographic content on platforms which do not cater exclusively to porn is a valid goal, but often that is just a checkbox away. Something can be both disgusting and artistic at the same time (plenty of lauded examples of modern art by established artists can be quite disgusting), and dismissing erotic content as unartistic just because it is erotic content seems silly.
- geon 2y ago
  Adult content isn’t necessarily low skill. It’s just that DA was full of low skilled adult content. And fringe stuff, like pregnancy fetish art or inflation fetish art.
  - sph 2y ago
    That's my experience with the site a decade ago. I remember seeing really tasteful and well done sexy photography, but the amount of very terrible cartoon porn was overwhelming, weird fetishes aside. They all have the characteristic look of drawing by beginners with no taste whatsoever, like overuse of gradients, uncanny faces, colored hair or facial piercings. I don't know how to explain, but if you have spent 5 minutes on that site, you have certainly seen what terrible cartoon porn drawn by horny teenagers looks like.
- kichimi 2y ago
  I don't think you understand where he's coming from, DA literally became filled with My Little Pony porn. I'm as open minded as can be but, that's too much, I also left for the same reasons.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  I watch porn but my observation is that most hentai is barely/badly disguised child porn / pedophilia. This is something that put me off in some mastodon servers there are a lot of people posting not hentai but drawings of underage looking girls either in creepy sexual postures or with exagerated female attributes (chest sizes or waist to ass ratio).
romwell 2y ago
Ugh. You sound like someone who missed the word deviant in that website's name. Care to share a link to the art you make? Really curious about what kind of sophistication you're producing that would be tarnished by being seen next to furry scribbles.
- phendrenad2 2y ago
  "Deviant" and "good" aren't mutually exclusive. Just wanted to clear that up for you.
  - romwell 2y ago
    >"Deviant" and "good" aren't mutually exclusive. Just wanted to clear that up for you. Great. Give yourself a pat on the back for that one. Now that you've had your smug moment, note that the parent comment wasn't concerned with the quality of content, but the category. "Furry smut isn't art", brought to you by "Rap isn't music" people.
    - phendrenad2 2y ago
      I encourage you to go read the comment again and consider that maybe you've misunderstood the intent, possibly due to confirmation bias (maybe you expected to encounter comments about furry art not being art, and you saw a comment containing the word "furry" in a negative context and mentally replaced it with a generic cut-out of an anti-furry sentiment). Makes me wonder if you're a chatbot, actually.
jsheard 2y ago
ArtStation is also filling up with AI crap, though not to the same extent as dA quite yet. It's most obvious in the marketplace which is now full of paid "reference packs" that consist entirely of AI generated images, which rather defeats the point of using a reference. There's still people on there selling good reference material but now they're buried between a few dozen variants of 6000+ WIZARD CHARACTERS IN 4K!! that someone churned out with Stable Diffusion in an afternoon.
- kunagi7 2y ago
  I use several sites like ArtStation, Pixiv and aggregators to download new wallpapers for my devices. This used to be an entertaining experience to see all the kinds of beautiful art people used to create... But as you said it is getting filled by AI crap. I noticed the same thing with Pixiv, even if I opt-out from AI art, new results from several popular tags are filled with badly tagged AI images. Now the experience feels tiresome, in some categories I waste too much time filtering between real and AI art. I started to search things produced before 2022-2023 to avoid AI. This "art" should be uploaded to its own subdomain and never get mixed up with real art.
123yawaworht456 2y ago
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jujube3 2y ago
Yes, it's weird to get outraged about furry porn being AI-generated. Who gives a hoot?

by Tronno 2y ago

LeoPanthera 2y ago

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sureIy 2y ago
I watch porn but I don’t want porn on every site I use. Skill has nothing to do with it, it’s that adult content is generally meant for a different response from “awe”. Some fringe content is downright disgusting and so far away from art that some people should put their pencils down and go to therapy.
- Freak_NL 2y ago
  Wanting to avoid pornographic content on platforms which do not cater exclusively to porn is a valid goal, but often that is just a checkbox away. Something can be both disgusting and artistic at the same time (plenty of lauded examples of modern art by established artists can be quite disgusting), and dismissing erotic content as unartistic just because it is erotic content seems silly.
geon 2y ago
Adult content isn’t necessarily low skill. It’s just that DA was full of low skilled adult content. And fringe stuff, like pregnancy fetish art or inflation fetish art.
- sph 2y ago
  That's my experience with the site a decade ago. I remember seeing really tasteful and well done sexy photography, but the amount of very terrible cartoon porn was overwhelming, weird fetishes aside. They all have the characteristic look of drawing by beginners with no taste whatsoever, like overuse of gradients, uncanny faces, colored hair or facial piercings. I don't know how to explain, but if you have spent 5 minutes on that site, you have certainly seen what terrible cartoon porn drawn by horny teenagers looks like.
kichimi 2y ago
I don't think you understand where he's coming from, DA literally became filled with My Little Pony porn. I'm as open minded as can be but, that's too much, I also left for the same reasons.
prmoustache 2y ago
I watch porn but my observation is that most hentai is barely/badly disguised child porn / pedophilia. This is something that put me off in some mastodon servers there are a lot of people posting not hentai but drawings of underage looking girls either in creepy sexual postures or with exagerated female attributes (chest sizes or waist to ass ratio).

romwell 2y ago

Ugh. You sound like someone who missed the word deviant in that website's name. Care to share a link to the art you make? Really curious about what kind of sophistication you're producing that would be tarnished by being seen next to furry scribbles.

phendrenad2 2y ago
"Deviant" and "good" aren't mutually exclusive. Just wanted to clear that up for you.
- romwell 2y ago
  >"Deviant" and "good" aren't mutually exclusive. Just wanted to clear that up for you. Great. Give yourself a pat on the back for that one. Now that you've had your smug moment, note that the parent comment wasn't concerned with the quality of content, but the category. "Furry smut isn't art", brought to you by "Rap isn't music" people.
  - phendrenad2 2y ago
    I encourage you to go read the comment again and consider that maybe you've misunderstood the intent, possibly due to confirmation bias (maybe you expected to encounter comments about furry art not being art, and you saw a comment containing the word "furry" in a negative context and mentally replaced it with a generic cut-out of an anti-furry sentiment). Makes me wonder if you're a chatbot, actually.

jsheard 2y ago

ArtStation is also filling up with AI crap, though not to the same extent as dA quite yet. It's most obvious in the marketplace which is now full of paid "reference packs" that consist entirely of AI generated images, which rather defeats the point of using a reference. There's still people on there selling good reference material but now they're buried between a few dozen variants of 6000+ WIZARD CHARACTERS IN 4K!! that someone churned out with Stable Diffusion in an afternoon.

kunagi7 2y ago
I use several sites like ArtStation, Pixiv and aggregators to download new wallpapers for my devices. This used to be an entertaining experience to see all the kinds of beautiful art people used to create... But as you said it is getting filled by AI crap. I noticed the same thing with Pixiv, even if I opt-out from AI art, new results from several popular tags are filled with badly tagged AI images. Now the experience feels tiresome, in some categories I waste too much time filtering between real and AI art. I started to search things produced before 2022-2023 to avoid AI. This "art" should be uploaded to its own subdomain and never get mixed up with real art.

123yawaworht456 2y ago

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jujube3 2y ago

Yes, it's weird to get outraged about furry porn being AI-generated. Who gives a hoot?