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Larry Page on Charlie Rose

128 points by qasar 14y ago

callmeed 14y ago
Is there any way to watch this on an iPad or AppleTV?
- TechNewb 14y ago
  http://mobile.bloomberg.com/tv/shows/charlie-rose http://mobile.bloomberg.com/tv/shows/charlie-rose Should be posted soon.
- d0mine 14y ago
  there are video players that can play .flv files on ipad e.g., http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayerhd-lite/id385896088?mt=8&uo=4 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayerhd-lite/id385896088?mt...
wensing 14y ago
Is something wrong with my browser? I see a picture of Page, click it, and then it disappears and all I hear is audio. Is there video somewhere?
- gsa 14y ago
  Direct link for the video: http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg...
mukaiji 14y ago
is he right when he says that Facebook will eventually be forced to release personal data to its users? Would it be a market constraint? If so from whom? Or would be a legal constraint?
- nickff 14y ago
  He is arguing that the customers will demand it; I am unsure of whether this is actually true or simply wishful thinking.
- marshallp 14y ago
  It just takes one succesful lawsuit by a user.
  - tonfa 14y ago
    Also there is legislation being drafted in the EU for data portability.
- voidr 14y ago
  He argues that the data belongs to the user, and the user should be allowed to easily transfer it to another service. We could argue about privacy stuff, but the fact that Facebook allows Yahoo access to the data means that Facebook uses this only as an excuse, all they really care about is giving competition a hard time.
- jarek 14y ago
  I didn't watch the interview (is there a transcript somewhere?). Does he mean release like is possible under the "Download a copy of your Facebook data" link on the account settings page, https://www.facebook.com/settings https://www.facebook.com/settings? Or more?
InfinityX0 14y ago
Did Page dye his hair? A bit off topic but it's a bit shocking that a 39-year-old would have hair that gray. I guess even running a wildly successful company is stressful.
- snprbob86 14y ago
  > Did Page dye his hair? Page doesn't really strike me as the type to invest heavily in appearances. > it's a bit shocking that a 39-year-old would have hair that gray. shrug maybe. I've had significant gray hair in my beard since I was 19 or so & my uncles were both bald by 25. Weirder things have happened. > I guess even running a wildly successful company is stressful. Probably more so than a failure. At least failures end :-P Having had recently to negotiate various potential outcomes in parallel, with nothing but upside all around, I couldn't believe how incredibly stressful it can be. It's an odd thought to find yourself wishing for (startup) death, to make the stress go away. However, on the other side, most of that type of stress is self-imposed. Maybe the same thing that made him so successful is what made his hair go gray...
- pacomerh 14y ago
  I'm surprised that you haven't seen other relatively young people with gray hair. It's more common than you think, and it's not always stress, it just runs on the family sometimes.
  - davidw 14y ago
    I have a friend who is under 35 and his hair is going nearly completely gray at this point.
    - simplegeek 14y ago
      I'm 30 and half of my hair are grey. I spotted first grey hair when I was in 8th grade ;)
- Estragon 14y ago
  He's nervous even in this interview.
busted 14y ago
I'm impressed at the quality of questions that Rose asked. They weren't all easy and they were questions I was interested in hearing Page answer.
- dfc 14y ago
  I take it that this was your first Charlie Rose interview? He is one of the best interviewers still around. I just wish Mr. Russert could have interviewed Larry Page.
  - jacobolus 14y ago
    Ugh, are you kidding? Charlie Rose is a terrible interviewer, fawning all over people he thinks have high status, and constantly interrupting and pissing on people he disagrees with. [He’s maybe better than cable news shows, but that’s a pretty low bar.] He asks far too many ridiculously leading questions, cuts off insightful lines of discussion by his guests to bring them back to whatever point he’s trying to make, and often just starts rambling about something irrelevant. His show is worth watching because of the fantastic quality of the guests, not his skill as an interviewer. My favorite Charlie Rose moment was maybe 10 or 15 years ago, in an interview with I think Bill Joy, but it might have been someone else. Charlie asked some rambling minute-second “don’t you agree that...” type question, and his guest responded with a bored look, “well, duh.” Go listen to a couple of episodes of Terry Gross’s truly masterful interviews on Fresh Air, or watch interviews by, say, Bill Moyers, and then come back and watch an episode of Charlie Rose. Try paying attention to the different ways they lead an interview, and the resulting differences in the conversation. Often someone will be in the news or have a new book out, and will appear on both Charlie Rose and Fresh Air at about the same time; the Fresh Air interview is always dramatically better.
    - kablamo 14y ago
      I have only watched one or two Charlie Rose videos, but I agree that Terry Gross is the best interviewer I have ever heard. By far. Hmm actually I think Adam Carolla is not bad either.
cgs1019 14y ago
streaming is slow for me on the site. it's also on hulu, though: http://www.hulu.com/watch/364027/charlie-rose-larry-page http://www.hulu.com/watch/364027/charlie-rose-larry-page
dfc 14y ago
here is the link to the flv file if you want to download it and watch it later and/or having streaming speed issues: http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg... At the moment it is not slow for me at all. I am getting 2.2MB on a standard tw.rr.com cable connection...
bigfishl 14y ago
The comments on the site are ridiculous.
twelvechairs 14y ago
Great interview, they both brought up some interesting points. I still can't agree with what Page says about 'personalised results' though. He talks about 'search understanding you' as if it just makes existing search 'better'. But to me search is about 'I know what I'm looking for so I ask for something specific', usually looking for a fairly certain answer. If this involves my search history, or people that I know, I will be able to tell the search platform that when I search, I don't want them to assume this on my behalf - this just makes my results less specific than I originally intended. Its a bit of a conflation between advertising and search really, they are trying to second guess what I am interested in before I know it, which I'm not sure is very positive.
- stingraycharles 14y ago
  But to me search is about 'I know what I'm looking for so I ask for something specific', usually looking for a fairly certain answer. If this involves my search history, or people that I know, I will be able to tell the search platform that when I search, I don't want them to assume this on my behalf - this just makes my results less specific than I originally intended. We (the HN community) are not the target audience for these optimizations. Ever watched your mom type in a search query? It's aweful, sometimes I'm amazed at the results Google can produce for crappy search queries. It's those people that will benefit tremendously from these kind of optimizations. For us, who do not want the personalised search results, the standard answer has been that we should simply log off and it will be generic. While I do feel that Google should simply make this an account preference (so I don't have to log off from my gmail account just to be able to use search in a fashion I appreciate), I can clearly see and appreciate why Google is going for personalised search.
  - timothya 14y ago
    For the record, having personalized search results is a setting in the search preferences[1], accessible through the gear icon on the search results page. [1]: https://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en https://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en
  - greendestiny 14y ago
staunch 14y ago
I think it's so great that someone as goodhearted and intelligent is so damn rich and powerful. The previous generation of tech giants seem really quite nasty and brutish in comparison. The industrial moguls seem like they were even worse. I really hope it's a trend that better people end up in positions of power. Imagine a world where most of the powerful people in business and politics were like Larry Page. We'd have ourselves a Star Trek-esque utopia within 30 years. Actually that's kind of what Google campuses remind me of: Starfleet HQ (which is also based in the bay area, hmm....http://i.imgur.com/gPsTC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gPsTC.jpg)
- perfunctory 14y ago
  Power corrupts.
  - tikhonj 14y ago
    The opposite seems more likely: the corrupt get more power. Excepting people like Page who got there thanks to technical acumen. It's like the brilliant quote by Douglas Adams: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
    - aptwebapps 14y ago
      The opposite seems more likely: the corrupt get more power. I think that's a false dichotomy. Power corrupts and the corrupt get power. Also, it's not binary but rather goes by degrees. Thus the long pursuit of power tends to lead to thorough corruption. I don't think someone like Page is completely immune to the allure of power, but he may have a high resistance to it. Caveat: I'm using the term a little loosely - there are different sorts of corruption.
    - specialist 14y ago
      Run for office. See for yourself what it takes to win. Then check back with us.
  - idleloops 14y ago
narrator 14y ago
I was impressed with his humility. It's amazing how he hasn't let all the success he's had and being a billionaire feed his ego.
dm8 14y ago
Its a great interview. Its interesting to hear about his thoughts on YouTube. He is expecting majority of GOOG's revenue coming from YouTube. Is YouTube going to be "hollywood killer"?
jey 14y ago
Why are Charlie Rose interviews only available via Flash? It's a shame that these amazing interviews are only accessible on systems that run Flash. I'd love to even get an audio only file.
saraid216 14y ago
This was my favorite quote: "I look at what's possible to do with technology, and I think we're still 1% of the way there."
jstanley 14y ago
To anyone else who doesn't understand: you have to click on the picture of Larry Page and then it plays a video.
duncan 14y ago
flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg...
- duncan 14y ago
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robertp 14y ago
I can't believe Page didn't know the name of the companies they have acquired so far in 2012. They bought Milk (Kevin Rose) & TxVia (some type of mobile payment company)
- johsoe 14y ago
  I think his thought process was more like "what am I allowed to say" and decided not to take a risk :D

128 points by qasar 14y ago

callmeed 14y ago

Is there any way to watch this on an iPad or AppleTV?

TechNewb 14y ago
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/tv/shows/charlie-rose http://mobile.bloomberg.com/tv/shows/charlie-rose Should be posted soon.
d0mine 14y ago
there are video players that can play .flv files on ipad e.g., http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayerhd-lite/id385896088?mt=8&uo=4 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/oplayerhd-lite/id385896088?mt...

wensing 14y ago

Is something wrong with my browser? I see a picture of Page, click it, and then it disappears and all I hear is audio. Is there video somewhere?

gsa 14y ago
Direct link for the video: http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg...

mukaiji 14y ago

is he right when he says that Facebook will eventually be forced to release personal data to its users? Would it be a market constraint? If so from whom? Or would be a legal constraint?

nickff 14y ago
He is arguing that the customers will demand it; I am unsure of whether this is actually true or simply wishful thinking.
marshallp 14y ago
It just takes one succesful lawsuit by a user.
- tonfa 14y ago
  Also there is legislation being drafted in the EU for data portability.
voidr 14y ago
He argues that the data belongs to the user, and the user should be allowed to easily transfer it to another service. We could argue about privacy stuff, but the fact that Facebook allows Yahoo access to the data means that Facebook uses this only as an excuse, all they really care about is giving competition a hard time.
jarek 14y ago
I didn't watch the interview (is there a transcript somewhere?). Does he mean release like is possible under the "Download a copy of your Facebook data" link on the account settings page, https://www.facebook.com/settings https://www.facebook.com/settings? Or more?

InfinityX0 14y ago

Did Page dye his hair? A bit off topic but it's a bit shocking that a 39-year-old would have hair that gray. I guess even running a wildly successful company is stressful.

snprbob86 14y ago
> Did Page dye his hair? Page doesn't really strike me as the type to invest heavily in appearances. > it's a bit shocking that a 39-year-old would have hair that gray. shrug maybe. I've had significant gray hair in my beard since I was 19 or so & my uncles were both bald by 25. Weirder things have happened. > I guess even running a wildly successful company is stressful. Probably more so than a failure. At least failures end :-P Having had recently to negotiate various potential outcomes in parallel, with nothing but upside all around, I couldn't believe how incredibly stressful it can be. It's an odd thought to find yourself wishing for (startup) death, to make the stress go away. However, on the other side, most of that type of stress is self-imposed. Maybe the same thing that made him so successful is what made his hair go gray...
pacomerh 14y ago
I'm surprised that you haven't seen other relatively young people with gray hair. It's more common than you think, and it's not always stress, it just runs on the family sometimes.
- davidw 14y ago
  I have a friend who is under 35 and his hair is going nearly completely gray at this point.
  - simplegeek 14y ago
    I'm 30 and half of my hair are grey. I spotted first grey hair when I was in 8th grade ;)
Estragon 14y ago
He's nervous even in this interview.

busted 14y ago

I'm impressed at the quality of questions that Rose asked. They weren't all easy and they were questions I was interested in hearing Page answer.

dfc 14y ago
I take it that this was your first Charlie Rose interview? He is one of the best interviewers still around. I just wish Mr. Russert could have interviewed Larry Page.
- jacobolus 14y ago
  Ugh, are you kidding? Charlie Rose is a terrible interviewer, fawning all over people he thinks have high status, and constantly interrupting and pissing on people he disagrees with. [He’s maybe better than cable news shows, but that’s a pretty low bar.] He asks far too many ridiculously leading questions, cuts off insightful lines of discussion by his guests to bring them back to whatever point he’s trying to make, and often just starts rambling about something irrelevant. His show is worth watching because of the fantastic quality of the guests, not his skill as an interviewer. My favorite Charlie Rose moment was maybe 10 or 15 years ago, in an interview with I think Bill Joy, but it might have been someone else. Charlie asked some rambling minute-second “don’t you agree that...” type question, and his guest responded with a bored look, “well, duh.” Go listen to a couple of episodes of Terry Gross’s truly masterful interviews on Fresh Air, or watch interviews by, say, Bill Moyers, and then come back and watch an episode of Charlie Rose. Try paying attention to the different ways they lead an interview, and the resulting differences in the conversation. Often someone will be in the news or have a new book out, and will appear on both Charlie Rose and Fresh Air at about the same time; the Fresh Air interview is always dramatically better.
  - kablamo 14y ago
    I have only watched one or two Charlie Rose videos, but I agree that Terry Gross is the best interviewer I have ever heard. By far. Hmm actually I think Adam Carolla is not bad either.

cgs1019 14y ago

streaming is slow for me on the site. it's also on hulu, though: http://www.hulu.com/watch/364027/charlie-rose-larry-page http://www.hulu.com/watch/364027/charlie-rose-larry-page

dfc 14y ago

here is the link to the flv file if you want to download it and watch it later and/or having streaming speed issues: http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg... At the moment it is not slow for me at all. I am getting 2.2MB on a standard tw.rr.com cable connection...

bigfishl 14y ago

The comments on the site are ridiculous.

twelvechairs 14y ago

Great interview, they both brought up some interesting points. I still can't agree with what Page says about 'personalised results' though. He talks about 'search understanding you' as if it just makes existing search 'better'. But to me search is about 'I know what I'm looking for so I ask for something specific', usually looking for a fairly certain answer. If this involves my search history, or people that I know, I will be able to tell the search platform that when I search, I don't want them to assume this on my behalf - this just makes my results less specific than I originally intended. Its a bit of a conflation between advertising and search really, they are trying to second guess what I am interested in before I know it, which I'm not sure is very positive.

stingraycharles 14y ago
But to me search is about 'I know what I'm looking for so I ask for something specific', usually looking for a fairly certain answer. If this involves my search history, or people that I know, I will be able to tell the search platform that when I search, I don't want them to assume this on my behalf - this just makes my results less specific than I originally intended. We (the HN community) are not the target audience for these optimizations. Ever watched your mom type in a search query? It's aweful, sometimes I'm amazed at the results Google can produce for crappy search queries. It's those people that will benefit tremendously from these kind of optimizations. For us, who do not want the personalised search results, the standard answer has been that we should simply log off and it will be generic. While I do feel that Google should simply make this an account preference (so I don't have to log off from my gmail account just to be able to use search in a fashion I appreciate), I can clearly see and appreciate why Google is going for personalised search.
- timothya 14y ago
  For the record, having personalized search results is a setting in the search preferences[1], accessible through the gear icon on the search results page. [1]: https://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en https://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en
- greendestiny 14y ago

staunch 14y ago

I think it's so great that someone as goodhearted and intelligent is so damn rich and powerful. The previous generation of tech giants seem really quite nasty and brutish in comparison. The industrial moguls seem like they were even worse. I really hope it's a trend that better people end up in positions of power. Imagine a world where most of the powerful people in business and politics were like Larry Page. We'd have ourselves a Star Trek-esque utopia within 30 years. Actually that's kind of what Google campuses remind me of: Starfleet HQ (which is also based in the bay area, hmm....http://i.imgur.com/gPsTC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gPsTC.jpg)

perfunctory 14y ago
Power corrupts.
- tikhonj 14y ago
  The opposite seems more likely: the corrupt get more power. Excepting people like Page who got there thanks to technical acumen. It's like the brilliant quote by Douglas Adams: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
  - aptwebapps 14y ago
    The opposite seems more likely: the corrupt get more power. I think that's a false dichotomy. Power corrupts and the corrupt get power. Also, it's not binary but rather goes by degrees. Thus the long pursuit of power tends to lead to thorough corruption. I don't think someone like Page is completely immune to the allure of power, but he may have a high resistance to it. Caveat: I'm using the term a little loosely - there are different sorts of corruption.
  - specialist 14y ago
    Run for office. See for yourself what it takes to win. Then check back with us.
- idleloops 14y ago

narrator 14y ago

I was impressed with his humility. It's amazing how he hasn't let all the success he's had and being a billionaire feed his ego.

dm8 14y ago

Its a great interview. Its interesting to hear about his thoughts on YouTube. He is expecting majority of GOOG's revenue coming from YouTube. Is YouTube going to be "hollywood killer"?

jey 14y ago

Why are Charlie Rose interviews only available via Flash? It's a shame that these amazing interviews are only accessible on systems that run Flash. I'd love to even get an audio only file.

saraid216 14y ago

This was my favorite quote: "I look at what's possible to do with technology, and I think we're still 1% of the way there."

jstanley 14y ago

To anyone else who doesn't understand: you have to click on the picture of Larry Page and then it plays a video.

duncan 14y ago

flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalgrill_content/052112CRS.flv http://charlierose.http.internapcdn.net/charlierose/digitalg...

duncan 14y ago
306 mb

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robertp 14y ago

I can't believe Page didn't know the name of the companies they have acquired so far in 2012. They bought Milk (Kevin Rose) & TxVia (some type of mobile payment company)

johsoe 14y ago
I think his thought process was more like "what am I allowed to say" and decided not to take a risk :D