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> When the product officially rolls out there will be a “no-go voice list” that detects and prevents AI-generated speakers that are too similar to prominent fig

> When the product officially rolls out there will be a “no-go voice list” that detects and prevents AI-generated speakers that are too similar to prominent figures. Should they then let anyone register their "voice id" to prevent others frok generating similar voices? What if your voice happens to resemble the voice of a "prominent figure?"

testacpwoek 2y ago
It's insane that this protection exists for "prominent figures" but nobody else. The same damage that can be done to prominent figures can be done to regular people, they acknowledge the damage can be done, and yet they're still rolling this out? The more OpenAI does the more it's clear they don't give a single damn about the consequences of their technology.
- xandrius 2y ago
  That's what for-profit and investors do to morality.
  - TrueGeek 2y ago
    If you had just worked harder and become a billionaire you too could have been safe from the AI apocalypse
- zoky 2y ago
  The “Open” in OpenAI refers to, uh, a certain part of your anatomy…
- MrNeon 2y ago
  It is very obvious that the amount and type of damage is not the same if you clone any random person's voice or clone a political leader's voice. It is not the same damage.
  - testacpwoek 2y ago
    Murdering a random civilian and murdering a public official are also very different levels of damage, but we still outlaw and prosecute both of them. This is the same thing. Not to mention, what constitutes a political leader? Just the upper echelon? What about local civil servants? Mayors, cops, judges? Are they gonna have a database of every public or political figure in the country? No they won't. This is absurd.
    - Cheer2171 2y ago
      Many jurisdictions actually do have higher penalties for crimes of violence committed against public officials than ordinary citizens. Assault a USPS postal worker at a post office and you automatically have a higher sentence than assaulting a UPS worker at a UPS store.
      - testacpwoek 2y ago
        I know that. Both are still illegal, which is what I said, and is the point.
    - reaperducer 2y ago
      Not to mention, what constitutes a political leader? Just the upper echelon? What about local civil servants? Mayors, cops, judges? Barack Obama started out as a "community organizer." AI can clone someone making a public speech at that level, then store it forever until they become the president.
    - coffeebeqn 2y ago
      Don’t forget business people. Clone the voice of some executives and start calling people pretending to be them
mtillman 2y ago
It reminds me of the new EU law being implemented in that it eliminates the use of ai for private companies but explicitly allows it for law enforcement. Both are methods of consolidating power. Safer to be open for everyone and unrestricted than explicitly protecting the few.
Shawnj2 2y ago
It’s a little tricky because if someone cloned your voice first they could pretend they were you and stop you from using “their” voice, then do nasty stuff with it. This way they can still do that, but they can’t prevent you from using your own voice unless you have to upload an ID with your voice or something. It’s much easier to enforce this on known celebrities or otherwise well known people than the general public.

testacpwoek 2y ago

It's insane that this protection exists for "prominent figures" but nobody else. The same damage that can be done to prominent figures can be done to regular people, they acknowledge the damage can be done, and yet they're still rolling this out? The more OpenAI does the more it's clear they don't give a single damn about the consequences of their technology.

xandrius 2y ago
That's what for-profit and investors do to morality.
- TrueGeek 2y ago
  If you had just worked harder and become a billionaire you too could have been safe from the AI apocalypse
zoky 2y ago
The “Open” in OpenAI refers to, uh, a certain part of your anatomy…
MrNeon 2y ago
It is very obvious that the amount and type of damage is not the same if you clone any random person's voice or clone a political leader's voice. It is not the same damage.
- testacpwoek 2y ago
  Murdering a random civilian and murdering a public official are also very different levels of damage, but we still outlaw and prosecute both of them. This is the same thing. Not to mention, what constitutes a political leader? Just the upper echelon? What about local civil servants? Mayors, cops, judges? Are they gonna have a database of every public or political figure in the country? No they won't. This is absurd.
  - Cheer2171 2y ago
    Many jurisdictions actually do have higher penalties for crimes of violence committed against public officials than ordinary citizens. Assault a USPS postal worker at a post office and you automatically have a higher sentence than assaulting a UPS worker at a UPS store.
    - testacpwoek 2y ago
      I know that. Both are still illegal, which is what I said, and is the point.
  - reaperducer 2y ago
    Not to mention, what constitutes a political leader? Just the upper echelon? What about local civil servants? Mayors, cops, judges? Barack Obama started out as a "community organizer." AI can clone someone making a public speech at that level, then store it forever until they become the president.
  - coffeebeqn 2y ago
    Don’t forget business people. Clone the voice of some executives and start calling people pretending to be them

mtillman 2y ago

It reminds me of the new EU law being implemented in that it eliminates the use of ai for private companies but explicitly allows it for law enforcement. Both are methods of consolidating power. Safer to be open for everyone and unrestricted than explicitly protecting the few.

Shawnj2 2y ago

It’s a little tricky because if someone cloned your voice first they could pretend they were you and stop you from using “their” voice, then do nasty stuff with it. This way they can still do that, but they can’t prevent you from using your own voice unless you have to upload an ID with your voice or something. It’s much easier to enforce this on known celebrities or otherwise well known people than the general public.