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Gender differences in Dutch research funding over time
- u32480932048 3y ago[flagged]
- User3456335 3y agoIt sounds like you're a bit too invested in the issue if you're literally shaking.
- enjeyw 3y agoI think we may be running into Poe's Law[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
- zdragnar 3y agoWhat should be taken away from this study? They found in two tiers no notable difference, and a slight advantage to women in the other, with the effect growing over time. Then they state that this is all correlation, and we don't know about a dozen or two different variables such as whether the grant process self selects for more men to apply (and thus fail). No conclusion that men are disadvantaged may be drawn, they say. Is this study worth building on? Why are people finding it interesting enough to vote it up to the front page? What am I missing?
- ars 3y agoThere an ongoing desire to know if the different between men and women in the sciences is due to innate differences, or due to society causing a difference. Research on this topic is rare, so when some is available people are very interested.
- coffeeaddict1 3y ago> There an ongoing desire to know if the different between men and women in the sciences is due to innate differences, or due to society causing a difference. Is it ongoing though? It seems to me that this is exceedingly rare and discouraged, given the political climate of most academic institutions in the western world.
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- apienx 3y agoOvercorrecting after eons of patriarchal dominance is expected and not necessarily a bad thing IMHO. In some countries (e.g. Sweden), prioritising a certain gender over another for research funding is explicit (and widely accepted) public policy.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoI think it's pretty obviously a bad thing to discriminate in this way. Maybe it's understandable to experience some overcorrection, but that doesn't mean it's good.
- algorias 3y agoOvercorrecting is a bad thing. It means that you're explicitly and knowingly discriminating by gender, with a flimsy justification about the guilt of our ancestors.
- AllegedAlec 3y ago[flagged]
- wolverine876 3y agoIn what way do you see this program overcorrecting?
- eastbound 3y ago[flagged]
- nahnahno 3y ago[flagged]
- ars 3y agoIf you want to overcorrect for a particular person who was discriminated against, that's one thing. But to overcorrect with people who did not themselves experience any discrimination, they are just in the same socially-popular category is itself discrimination and is just as bad.