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Chrome experimental AI features
- dougb5 3y agoI wonder if this "Help me write" will give different suggestions from the Google Docs "Help me write" feature, or from the dozens of other help-me-write features that are cropping up these days within text-oriented webapps (e.g. Notion).
- seydor 3y agowhat i want is 'read aloud', like MS Edge
- TOMDM 3y agoEdge is honestly slowly turning into a better Chrome, and the better parts aren't even the LLM craze. If they keep it up, this might actually threaten Googles browser dominance. On the AI end though Microsoft aggresively pursues support for other AI providers (Mistral and Lamma both being on Azure API's now), Google tying themselves to Gemini seems to be tying themselves to the best they can do while Microsoft seems to be accruing the best they can get.
- lxgr 3y agoSerious question: What do you like about Edge? I’ve tried it a couple of times (when Bing AI chat was still Edge-only) and was extremely put off by all the coupons, rewards, and other distractions.
- Solvency 3y agoIt's absolutely wild that this isn't the first thing anyone would make there. ChatGPTs talk mode is so good, I'd kill for the ability to listen to longform articles at varying speeds/voices.
- lulzx 3y agoAgain features nobody cares about
- izolate 3y agoThe first two are seemingly of questionable utility, but the 3rd feature (Help me write) is actually quite interesting. As of late, most of my public written responses (bar HN) have had some sort of collaboration with ChatGPT, and I've often wondered about a native browser integration. For those of us who struggle with communication, this is an exciting prospect!
- wolverine876 3y agoI suck at plenty of things and when there is software (or another tool) to help me, I am happy to use it. Software that helps with communication, at least on this level, is a new frontier and therefore, as always, people feel a lot of uncertainty. As someone who seriously utilizes this particular tool, what do you think of those issues? For example, do you feel like the result has your own voice? Your own specific, precise thoughts? Does it help or hurt growth in communication skill? How do those things play out in real application of the technology and what is the best way to use it? Incidentally, communication is a strong point for me and therefore ChatGPT doesn't benefit me much in that respect. I hate to think that my skill has lost most of its value, but working in technology, I can hardly complain when it happens to me: Are communication skills even needed now, or how has that need changed?
- izolate 3y agoThe uncertainty you pointed out does seem to explain the downvotes I received. For me personally, communication is arduous. I struggle daily to articulate what I want to say in a logical and efficient manner, let alone in a graceful or artistic one. I've noticed my vocabulary and communication skill has regressed as I get older, despite efforts to improve it. Overall, ChatGPT has helped tremendously. I never had a written communication style that I was proud of, so I'm happy to assume its more generic tone of voice. If language fulfills its primary purpose, to get a point across, that's enough for me. Any kind of inherent artistic integrity is above my pay grade, so to speak.
- wolverine876 3y ago> The uncertainty you pointed out does seem to explain the downvotes I received. Yes, even on HN people despise anything that violates norms (unless it's promoted by a megalomaniac). Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's great there's now a tool for that need.
- cute_boi 3y agoI don't want another microsoft edge where I have to press hundred buttons just to open website.
- mvdtnz 3y agoWhat are you talking about?
- Hoefner 3y agoI hope the Chrome devs will add some features like those in Arc browser, such as summarizing content while hovering over a link and pressing Shift.
- lukan 3y agoThat would be useful, but also probably quite expensive, if every chrome user use this feature?
- nolist_policy 3y agoNot if inferencing happens locally, e.g. with Gemini Nano.
- summerlight 3y agoShould be doable with a local model, but there might be some trade-off here. I expect it to roll out to Pixel users first where Google has a better control.
- AzzyHN 3y agoAs long as laptops are still sold with 8GB of RAM, I don't see this happening. Honestly not sure how much RAM that'd take but to me, it sounds like bloat
- brucethemoose2 3y agoDesktop users are not going to be happy about a surprise local model running in the background, even a small quantized one.
- rockemsockem 3y agoI'm curious, why do you think that?
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- summerlight 3y agoAs a tab hoarder, I remember there were some attempts to implement rule-based tab organizer (using features like tab name, url, etc...) but most of them were only marginally useful for my case. I wondered if generative models make any differences here so just tried it and a bit disappointed, it's consistently returning an error with a message "Tab groups suggestions are currently unavailable". It's just launched and the team might be experiencing lots of pages, perhaps I should try this again later.
- punkspider 3y agoHow did you use it? I'm trying with Chrome Beta but it doesn't seem to have the option to organize tabs. I looked in Experiments and it's not there either. It's updated to the latest version.
- summerlight 3y agohttps://support.google.com/chrome/answer/14519765?visit_id=638416375524065281-827464444&p=auto_tab_group&rd=1 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/14519765?visit_id=6... AFAIK, this is geo limited to the US, at least for now.
- Al_Ptr 3y agoHave you tried ToChunkA Smart TabS extension(https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tochunka-smart-tabs/djgplmmlaeekpcgjphelaboajmfgcdij https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tochunka-smart-tabs...)? It organizes tabs and bookmarks by content similarity and does little more. Designed for tab hoarders in mind. :)
- nolist_policy 3y agoMeanwhile I keep refreshing the Google Bard changelog site, waiting for Gemini Pro in Europe.
- esha_manideep 3y agoHaving a feature to summarise the website would be a much better than the first two. As I constantly find myself wishing for such a feature :/
- renewiltord 3y agoThe Arc browser I use has that feature on hover.
- jsf01 3y agoI’ve been working on a project [1] to do just that from within a Chrome extension. The idea was that as an extension, it could make use of the context menu and feel more like a native feature of the browser. I’m always hesitant to link to my things from comments but in this case I think it’s a perfect fit for what you’re describing. [1] https://smudge.ai https://smudge.ai
- amf12 3y agoThe linked post links to another blog which is about this.
- rockemsockem 3y agoI suspect Google is afraid of getting sued by more publishers :/
- worksonmine 3y agoAnyone else have AI fatigue yet? I haven't even tried GPT and I'm already sick of AI this LLM that.
- danielbln 3y agoYou haven't tried what would only be called science fiction 4 years ago but are tired of it? The hype machine is grating, but do try a Gen AI model. I use it for code, for ideation, for various NLP tasks. It's at the very least moderately useful in various tasks, and extremely useful in some. edit: tone
- worksonmine 3y agoI get what it does, I've seen demos and it is no doubt impressive, but I have no personal use and don't see the point of giving them any data. I'm not limited in my current workflow and prefer official docs over the LLM interpretation of those same docs. The real satire are all the comments on any problem asking "have you tried GPT", more annoying than the Rust community. What do you use it for that you think would benefit me?
- The_Colonel 3y agoOne example for which I use ChatGPT is tip of the tongue. I can't remember a word, but I can describe it in other ways. Google doesn't catch on those keywords, ChatGPT does. It's also pretty good for generating pointers for a complex solution. Like I try to figure out something in the non-JPA old version of EclipseLink, so I ask ChatGPT. The generated code is very often wrong, but it often points me into a right direction.
- worksonmine 3y agoI just use a thesaurus and hit one or more synonyms for the first example. The second isn't really a problem I encounter, some docs are terrible yes but I jump to definition or search the web. I might've had more use when I was new to programming but my workflow these days is pretty solid and I don't see myself saving time by typing prompts and debugging output rather than just coding. If it is too complex for me to understand I wouldn't really trust the output anyway and might spend a lot more time sanity checking the generated code and it might not be very useful in the end. I'll try someday if I really get stuck, I expect to get disappointed though.
- mattigames 3y agoThe only AI feature I'm interested its an AI that lets me remove ads automatically, but Google by definition its not interested in such feature.
- rockooooo 3y agoAI theme generation really seems like a solution looking for a problem
- voidhorse 3y agoThe vast majority of AI development right now fits the solution looking for a problem mold. People are pushing hard for the adoption of LLMs in areas where the existing solutions are not only more predictable, but require equivalent or less effort to using an LLM. At some point the hype will die down and we'll find out where these tools actually fit, but yeah right now it's madness.
- duxup 3y agoIt is a neat "it can do that" kinda thing but I also wondered when I need that. Having said that chrome customization has always kinda bit me in the butt eventually when something changes and looks odd now and ... I just tend to avoid it altogether now.
- chankstein38 3y agoYeah honestly I just want my browser to be dark and not spam me with stuff when I open a new tab. I don't need some fancy picture.
- yanis_t 3y agoHere are some better ideas from the top of my head: - summarise an article - find information on a given topic (free-form input text) - full voice control ("click that link", "read that article", "find this") - auto-submit a captcha
- marricks 3y agoSeriously, their first example seems useless to most people. Naming a tab group??? That doesn't take any time, little thought, and who does that regularly? Summarizing an article seems like something everyone else can do OK. It's a huge avenue for bias (maybe that's why it's reasonably elided) but at least it's actually useful.
- summerlight 3y agoIt's not just naming, but grouping as well. If you have 200 tabs and don't want to spend too much time on it, this can be very helpful.
- fullstop 3y agoHow long until malicious pages fool this into placing themselves into, say, a banking tab group?
- chankstein38 3y agoHow would that affect the end user except they go into the banking tab group and go "Huh. This isn't a banking website" and close it?
- everdrive 3y agoI don't want any AI features in anything. Yet another reason to avoid Chrome. I have Chrome installed solely to watch netflix on Linux.
- ugh123 3y agoLove the textarea integration. I wish Chrome could do a better job of saving "drafts" and/or backing up text somehow. Adding long content is a constant worry for me to lose it somehow to an error or accidentally closed tab.
- ehsankia 3y agoAbsolutely. For the longest time I had this extension called "Comment Save" which saved anything you typed in a textarea. It doesn't seem to exist anymore, and I haven't been able to find a good replacement. I would also much rather have it in the browser than giving full permission to some third party. The back button in Chrome sometimes help but I still lose long messages all the time.
- darkhorse222 3y agoThe last thing I want is further telemetry from Chrome to Google. I'm so glad I switched to Firefox. This should be an API, not a browser integration.
- crummy 3y agoan API to group your browser tabs..?
- Communitivity 3y agoI had a thought while reading this, and I don't know if this would be the case but... If it works by you hover over a link and Google gets the content in the browser behind the scenes and sends it to the mothership, where it's summarized and the summary then sent back to you to be displayed by the browser, then you may be accessing the linked page using your stored credentials, which give Google access to content they wouldn't otherwise have access to.
- lxgr 3y agoThe same is true for translations in most browsers, right? At least I'm not aware of any browser that does it client-side/offline. Edit: I stand corrected, Firefox does it offline! Thank you, Firefox team, this is awesome and I'll likely be using it more often now :)
- michaelmrose 3y agoFirefox does it offline
- burkaman 3y agoFirefox does it locally: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/translate/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/translate/
- lxgr 3y agoOh, cool! I somehow misremembered that very announcement as being cloud-based (but using an open model).
- asadotzler 3y agoFirefox does local LLM based translation. I kicked that project off in 2022 and it shipped last year.
- sa-code 3y agoThank you, I find it really useful
- smusamashah 3y agoI have a chrome extension [1] which lets you re-write your selected text, or look-it up via ChatGPT using your own custom prompts. Gives you more control on what kind of suggestions or answers you want basically. Won't help with rearranging/grouping tabs, but can definitely help rephrase text in input fields or looking up info. [1]: https://github.com/SMUsamaShah/LookupChatGPT https://github.com/SMUsamaShah/LookupChatGPT
- phillipcarter 3y agoI really wish the first part of this article had an explicit "Here is how you get started" section. I just about missed it because it's a paragraph that links to a support article. If they want people to actually use this stuff, why not make turning it on front and center?
- butz 3y agoSoon you won't need to browse the web at all, Chrome will do everything for you: watch youtube ads, click on sponsored links, write positive reviews for restaurants buying ads from adsense, and write negative reviews for ones not advertising with google, fight with edge which browser is the default one. On the bright side, you will be able to enjoy more time offline.
- bradgessler 3y agoI look forward to AI blocking ads after it gets tired of clicking through all of them.
- delta_p_delta_x 3y ago> AI blocking ads after it gets tired of clicking through all of them The future is (almost) now: SponsorBlock[1] skips embedded ads in YouTube videos, based on crowdfunded timestamps. [1]: https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
- disqard 3y agoYour comment reminded me of Douglas Adams' Electric Monk: "The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe."
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- shipit1999 3y agoI switched to Brave. Slowly trying to get the number of Google products I use down to zero.
- gr__or 3y agoKind of amazing how unable to deliver Google seems to be here. Looking at Arc, a new player, and the kind of AI features they came up with, this here looks more like features developed by McKinsey rather than by someone with domain knowledge.
- ncann 3y agoThe only "AI feature" I use in Chrome is the live caption one for French (which requires Chrome Canary). I use it to get automatic live caption while listening to French podcast since I'm learning the language. It's buggy as hell though, so if anyone has a suggestion on a replacement that would be much appreciated!
- littlekey 3y agoAnyone else think the whole idea of "tab management" tools is crazy? The way to manage tabs is to close them.
- pixelbath 3y agoAnd if you'd like to read it later, bookmark it! You can organize bookmarks into groups, give them custom names, and they don't require the browser to be constantly hoarding multiple gigabytes of RAM.
- eviks 3y agoNeither do the tabs, autosleep/unload exists, you know And bookmark organization is worse since it's a separate UI breaking your mental connection to the physical layout that you spend most of the time with
- layer8 3y agoOr filtering and searching. Anything you can have a large number of should have an obvious filtering & searching UI. After how many decades of UI are we still so behind on basic usability design.
- rockemsockem 3y agoThis is a feature in Chrome today.
- eviks 3y agoIf you don't limit yourself to only the closing one part of management, you might see the reason behind the craze
- Imnimo 3y agoThis feels like a VP at Google told the Chrome team they needed more AI.
- albert180 3y agoAnother reason to use Firefox