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Show HN: I made a website to find best bus seat to avoid the sun while traveling
- avhon1 3y agoI'm surprised that so many posts are people saying they want this. I've never felt a strong preference for shady seats while traveling. Why do (many) people prefer them?
- andy_ppp 3y agoI'm fine with sun for a few minutes but it get's distracting and makes it difficult to sleep and work on a laptop.
- mattrighetti 3y agoWell, last year I was doing a 1hr commute on a bus in Italy with 35 degrees outside and with broken AC :) It's not fun to have the sun pointing at you for 10 minutes straight I can tell you that
- Xerox9213 3y agoAs someone who suffers from EPP, thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietic_protoporphyria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietic_protoporphyria
- alabhyajindal 3y agoVery cool!
- h1fra 3y agoLove it, I constantly try to pick the right seat on the bus and always fails to do so. I wish it was a feature in google maps. Not sure if I'm the only one, in the bus I try to avoid the sun but I'm looking for it in the train/plane.
- Davidzheng 3y agoLmao can you just bring a poster paper and cover the windows
- amitmahbubani 3y agoExcellent stuff! I do this manually right now for flight/bus journeys.
- fifilura 3y agoCongratulations! The idea and execution made me smile. This must be an epitome of a hobby project!
- chocoboaus2 3y agoThis would work for trains as well right? Overground trains i mean
- ygra 3y agoIt seems they route along roads between bus stops, so you won't get train routes that follow the tracks. But in principle the solution should be very similar.
- Symbiote 3y agoIf the routing is done with an internal database (rather than some roads-only API) it might be straightforward to use the railway lines from Open Street Map [1]. Or even the public transport routes recorded in OSM [2]. [1] https://openrailwaymap.org/ https://openrailwaymap.org/ [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#layers=O https://www.openstreetmap.org/#layers=O
- denysvitali 3y agoYour logo should be: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/two-guys-on-a-bus https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/two-guys-on-a-bus
- xlbuttplug2 3y ago... except reversed?
- katella 3y agoYes lol.
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- metflex 3y agoLOL
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- jorisboris 3y agoI need this for flights, not for the sun, but I somehow always have fomo when having to choose between left and right side of the plane on the seat selection screen
- Jhsto 3y agoIt would have to predict the model numbers of the planes though: some newer ones I have been to (A350s) seem to have automagic dimming windows. Getting on flights with such windows is better even if you have to sit in the sun!
- SwiftyBug 3y agoBoeings 787 also have this. There isn't even a lid to close/open the window. And in some situations you can't "undim" it. Kind of annoying when it's midnight and you want to take a look at the moon and stars.
- Toutouxc 3y agoYou can usually predict the plane quite well if you know the airline and their fleet and they show you the exact seating plan.
- dheera 3y agoI hate those windows, when fully dimmed they let through a lot of blue light, and blue light is bad for sleep. On the other hand though I detest window seat passengers who insist on having the windows closed for take-off and landing. I'd like to know when to expect a thud, thanks. The electric shades are nice in that aspect because they are never fully opaque.
- badgersnake 3y agoDon’t you have to have the blinds up for take off and landing? You definitely do in Europe.
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- aikinai 3y agoThis is amazing! My kids get sick on train rides and I think a lot has to do with the sun strobing through the trees. I’ll try this next time to at least not be on the sunny side.
- sitkack 3y agoStrobing lights can trigger migraines, which can cause nausea.
- schmookeeg 3y agoMore and more, I really appreciate great efforts that make a small but meaningful improvement in some under-noticed aspect of living. It seems zen-like. Bravo. :) What a great project and execution!
- dn3500 3y agoI recently took a bus over the Andes and was congratulating myself on choosing a seat on the shady side. Then I realized that in the southern hemisphere the sun is in the north and I had outsmarted myself.
- micw 3y agoYes. There are is mnemonic phrase in german to tell where the sun is in morning/noon/evening which contains "sun is never seen in the north" - which just not work on the southern hemisphere.
- tppiotrowski 3y agoInteresting because the sun rises and sets from the north (NE, NW) during the summer in the northern hemisphere. The effect is more pronounced the farther north of the equator you are and Germany is quite far north.
- dheera 3y ago> Then I realized that in the southern hemisphere the sun is in the north That's not exactly true. South of the tropic of capricorn, the sun is in the north at noon. Between the equator and the tropic of capricorn the sun could be slightly towards the north or south or directly overhead at noon depending on the season. As for sunrise and sunset the sun could be just about anywhere if you go south enough and the season is right. At the south pole in summer, the sun just runs 360 degrees around, floating slightly above the horizon, and daylight is 24 hours long. If you are standing 1km from the south pole, you will see the sun in the south direction at midnight and in the north direction at noon. And if you go just further from the south pole, e.g. to Patagonia in summer (i.e. now) the sun rises and sets close to the south and goes around to the north at mid-day. Daylight is close to 20 hours long. It's similar to the south pole situation except when the sun gets close to exact south it dips below the horizon for a few hours and you have a short-lived few hours of darkness. But you do see the sun in the southeast at sunrise and southwest at sunset.
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- gitgud 3y agoNice! This would be cool to integrate with "shademap", to visualize the shade/sun during the journey. [1] https://shademap.app/@37.75153,-119.53737,12.65679z,1641600391979t,-132.33425b,45p,0m https://shademap.app/@37.75153,-119.53737,12.65679z,16416003...
- radlad 3y agoThanks for this link - I'm amazed to see it even has an approximation for my city based on buildings (Detroit.) This is really useful tool for photography. On Android, I also use Sun Surveyor to determine when the sun is hitting the right side of a building, but it doesn't show the shadows cast by other buildings!
- hsrada 3y agoLove it! Always wanted to build something like this. Glad you made it first though! Drop your Twitter in your profile. Would love to give you a follow :)
- jack_riminton 3y agoI entirely expect your motives to be non-commercial but I reckon there will be bus or train ticket sites who would pay for this. Which would also allow more people to benefit from it. Well done on a great job
- Amithv 3y agoThanks
- robertlagrant 3y agoSunny-side pricing!
- jack_riminton 3y agoOr the opposite!
- prmoustache 3y agoThat would have seem to be something trivial to think about for anyone with a modicum of sense of orientation. I guess most people don't have that.
- ianschmitz 3y agoNot all routes are a straight line. The time of day also matters…
- yreg 3y agoCongratulations on your superior sense of orientation.
- urbandw311er 3y agoYour comment comes across as arrogant and (embarrassingly for you) you’re wrong. There are more variables - the direction the roads go in. The changing position of the sun during the journey. The date and time. It’s nothing like as clear cut as you make out. Try “London to Edinburgh” at this time of year and you’ll see what I mean - there’s only 10% difference in sun exposure between the two sides of the bus.
- quickthrower2 3y agoThe sun doesn't rise in the East and set in the West though. And a random short route I put in had about 30 turns and all kinds of angles. Not everywhere is a US grid city :-).
- kartoshechka 3y agogosh, I've been thinking about making this for years, now I have to generalize for planes
- qurashee 3y agoTwenty-three years ago, during my daily trips to the university campus, I had the exact same idea. However, I became distracted by calculating the position of the sun and delved into astronomical algorithms, which led me to never complete it. Kudos to you, that's really impressive!
- addandsubtract 3y agoGetting lost on the 0.1% edge cases or improvements is why I never finish side projects, either.
- berkes 3y agoI don't always manage to adhere to my own advise here. But talking to "customers" really solves this. Half these customers can't be bothered by the edge cases that I've been poring over for nights. The other half puts forward edge cases that I've never been aware of. Some of which are critical to their work-flow. Many are implemented in mere minutes. "Wow. That saves us 30 minutes typing over prices, every day!". As an engineer I love to find solutions. But as an entrepeneur I really must understand the problem and scope. that 0.1% edge cases is hardly ever part of the success.
- cdong 3y agoThanks for posting this, honestly the 0.1% scare me sometimes on technical project. I think you're right, just gotta talk to my customers directly if they even care about it.
- ngcazz 3y agoWriting the level editor for my raycaster is why I never wrote my raycaster
- chippiewill 3y agoI don't think getting the position of the sun is an edge case, it's a fundamental capability for the product to work at all
- 0raymond0 3y agoWhen I travel, Before I pick a seat, I will think about the direction of the bus or plane to decide which side(left or right) seat I should select. Sometimes I like the sun while traveling, sometimes I'm not. The method is simple, it needs three factors, 1. The direction of this transportation tool way to your destination; 2. The time range; 3. The direction of the sun in the time range. So if I create this site, I need these variables first: 1. Tell me where are you going(such as From, To). I can confirm the direction of the transportation tool on Google Maps. 2. Tell me the time, I can calculate the direction of the sun based on the time range. After that, I can know which side seat you should choose.
- Fbnkigffb66tfbj 3y agoIs it much more complicated than to prefer the predominantly northwest side in the morning and northeast side in the afternoon (for northern hemisphere)?
- sksksk 3y agoDo you live in a city with a grid based road system? In a country with more organic road networks, that wouldn't work
- Fbnkigffb66tfbj 3y agoA glance at the driving route on Google Maps should show you the typical vehicle orientation.
- dylan604 3y agoThis just doesn't seem very POSH.
- thrdbndndn 3y agoCool project. Where does it get worldwide bus route info? Does OSM have an API for it?
- Amithv 3y agoYes,OpenStreetMap has
- pcwelder 3y agoThank you for not having region based restrictions. It works for any place and destination.
- miyuru 3y agoIf Google had made this, it would be US only.
- dfgdfg34545456 3y agoLove that this is a web page and not another app taking up space on my phone.
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- Erratic6576 3y agoShady side is comfy but remember that 120 min of daily indirect or direct exposure to UVB can protect your eyesight health. Just 120 min a day under a tree during childhood. Dolgin, Elie. 2015. The myopia boom. Nature 519: 276. Williams, Katie M., & al. 2017. Association Between Myopia, Ultraviolet B Radiation Exposure, Serum Vitamin D Concentrations, and Genetic Polymorphisms in Vitamin D Metabolic Pathways in a Multicountry European Study. JAMA Ophthalmology 135: 47-53. doi: 10.1001/jamaophthalmol.2016.4752. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamaophthalmol.2016.4752 https://doi.org/10.1001/jamaophthalmol.2016.4752
- adav 3y agoDoes the glass block lots of UV?
- sitkack 3y agoGlass blocks 100% of UVB and 25% of UVA. So while you wont burn, light through glass will still cause skin damage.
- Erratic6576 3y agoSo travelling for hours on the sunny side of the bus won't do anything to protect our kids’ eyesight?
- urbandw311er 3y agoThanks - I learned something today. Looks like some bus companies treat their windows to block the UVA as well. Eg https://www.valleymetro.org/blog/2022/07/how-valley-metro-keeps-buses-cool https://www.valleymetro.org/blog/2022/07/how-valley-metro-ke...
- sitkack 3y agoWe need a little UVB everyday to maintain melanin (skin pigment) and skin thickness. If you work inside M-F and then go hard on the weekends outdoors, you will receive disproportionate damage from sunlight. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3427189/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3427189/ https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/radiation-the-known-health-effects-of-ultraviolet-radiation https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/rad... If you are blocking UVB, you should be blocking UVA as well. The bus folks are doing some good thinking.
- bhakunikaran 3y agoGiven the uniqueness of this idea, I'm curious about the technical challenges you faced while developing "SitInShade."
- j_leboulanger 3y agoIt's not working for me :( I'm trying a trip from the north of France (Paris) to the south (Lyon) in the morning while the sun rises. So the sun is mainly on the East (so left of the bus) and the app tells me to sit on the left side of the bus.
- qurm 3y agoAt this time of year, during daylight, the sun is mostly in the south in France. The journey is south-easterly and takes 5 hours, so the right side is sunny for most of the journey!
- ReleaseCandidat 3y agoThe idea is nice, the problem is that the route the app uses (it uses for example a highway) isn't the one the bus would use.
- yreg 3y agoHmm, shouldn't the more shady side be the same in practical scenarios (like not going the other way around the globe, etc)?
- notahacker 3y agoThere are quite a few bus routes that wind back and forth, especially in urban and mountainous areas potentially offering a lot of shade from buildings and cliff edges for parts of the route anyway. Whether these journeys involve long enough in direct sun to matter is another question.
- yreg 3y agoYes, but I believe that the diff of sun(RIGHT_SIDE) and sun(LEFT_SIDE) is the same, no? Like the bus cannot get to the same destination by taking a route where the sun shines on the other side more. (Ignoring some fringe theoretical routes where you do a massive detour over equator.) edit: I was too fast with my reply to read yours properly. Sorry. > a lot of shade from buildings and cliff edges for parts of the route I don't believe sitinshade.com handles those anyway.
- yellow_lead 3y agoThis is working well! My only feedback is that I was checking a location far outside my timezone (-12 hours). This means I have to look up the timezone for that location. I would prefer to always use the "local" timezone, from the starting location.
- Amithv 3y agoThanks for the suggestion. That would be a great addition.
- thinkingemote 3y agoWould be great to have the best route with less low angle sun facing directly into your face and blinding you when driving. Another idea for a simple website would be to find the less icy side of a street. Often south facing sides of streets have less ice on them.
- Symbiote 3y agoI tested with London to Paris — if it's easy with your routing system, you should add the Channel Tunnel as a fake road. I'm not sure why it chose a ferry so far off the shortest route.
- ballooney 3y agoBoth sides are pretty good for being well shaded from the sun, in the Channel Tunnel, in my experience.
- Symbiote 3y agoThe routing takes the Portsmouth-Cherbourg ferry, which is not the way any bus would go. They take either the Channel Tunnel, or one of the shortest ferries like Dover-Calais.
- Amithv 3y agoCurrently, it uses OpenStreetMap routing.Planning to change to the Google Maps Routing API.
- jackdh 3y agoCheck the prices on that, it can get exorbitant
- throwaway91920 3y agoThe site could probably charge extra for better quality results. Perhaps they could split it into a free version using open street data, and a paid version with actual transit routes and other relevant data (tunnels could be marked as 0% sun coverage if they are able to find a data source for it)
- ulnarkressty 3y agoOh man, I had this idea a long time ago when I was still commuting to work during sweltering hot summers in trams with no AC. Glad to see someone implemented it. If you want to take it to the next level, use GIS information to account for building shadows and waiting times in stations and at traffic lights. I just started using the metro instead :)
- Moru 3y agoI never got the idea because our busses had a sort of plastic bar tied to some plastic fabric that you could pull down over the windows. Worked pretty well for blocking the sun. Ofcourse this was way before internet became popular so I guess the ancient knowledge has been lost to humanity by now. The long distance busses also had some sort of air cooling function that they sometimes started up if it was a very warm day. Todays busses don't even have heating in the winter. If I can't bike, I'm taking the car nowadays. Can't sit in a bus when it's -20 C outdoors and -18 indoors. :-)
- swores 3y ago> Todays busses don't even have heating in the winter Reminder that not all busses are the same, and your experience is extremely localised to you - even different bus companies (or bus models used by a single company) in the same city can be completely different, yet alone different parts of the country, yet alone different countries. Near me, for example, pretty much all busses have heating for the winter, and maybe half (random estimate) have AC for during hot weather while the other half just have windows/vents to open or shut.
- iercan 3y agoNice idea
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- denysvitali 3y agoWow, spamming on behalf of Lufthansa on HN is a first for me
- pb060 3y agoWhen I was a kid I used to take a bus from East to West coast of Italy in Summer. Despite my best efforts to calculate the side with minimum sun exposure, I always ended up on the sunny side. This also happened when doing the opposite of my predictions. An app like this would have helped me a lot, but it would be nice to have the possibility customize the route.
- selimco 3y agoAt least one Turkish website (obilet) also offers this info. I consider this whenever I purchase a ticket.
- thret 3y agoMakes sense, it would be good if bus and train companies integrated this into seat selection. It really does make a difference.
- pknerd 3y agoUI is confusing. As someone who is living in Pakistan, I do not know what to put on location fields.
- AymanB 3y agoI asked myself the same question a couple times, but never thought of make an app out of it. Well done!
- makingstuffs 3y agoReally nice idea and it works to an extent, but it doesn’t seem to use the bus routes — just sent me the quickest route via the motorway. Not sure how much of a ball ache that would be to implement though as I guess you would need to pair a lot of APIs or pay google out the backside
- Amithv 3y agoCurrently OpenStreetMap routing API, would have to be replaced with the Google Maps Transit API.
- fazlerabbi37 3y agoOpenStreetMap routing API should provide routing with Car, Bicycle and Foot profiles. You might have to modify the API call to change the profile. PS: There might be other free alternatives to using the main osm.org API which will be more reliable.
- julesvr 3y agoWould be great to offer this as an option, even if we would have to fill in our own API key. The train tracks in my country differ quite somewhat from the roads when I try it out. Also. busses take defined routes and not the shortest path. Google Maps provides all these routes.
- Summershard 3y agoMay I suggest creating an option to add waypoints which should help recreate bus routes?
- dmurray 3y agoWould you get significantly different results? I'd expect this would work OK even if you assumed travel in a completely straight line - unless you're tacking like a sailboat, you're going to spend most of your time travelling close to the overall direction of travel.
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- g0ran 3y agoGood job!
- danilor 3y agoThanks!! I always try to imagine in my head where the sun will be before I book a ticket ;) Now this is more accurate!
- andy_ppp 3y agoThis is brilliant, one thing I would say is making the “Preferred Side” value red leads my eye to believe red = negative/not good/don't so I was searching for something else without thinking. Probably better to make the affirmative/do this/sit here colour green not red.
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- dainiusse 3y agoI love HN community :) Congrats for just making something and putting out there!
- odiroot 3y agoI would gladly use "sit in the sun" version of this.
- fjfaase 3y agoIt shows the percentage of sunshine for both sides. Simply choose the other side than the one that is recommended for shade.
- tutfbhuf 3y agoAnother solution is to wear sunglasses and/or a hat and to use an E-Ink device when traveling. I have tested it multiple times, works quite well.
- _bax 3y agoThe same is useful to place the baby in the car in the better side on a long trip
- moctarhaiz 3y agoGreat idea. I'm wondering how dis you computed the sun postion in every area of the eath ?
- defrost 3y agoBack in the 1980s when doing this we used a Naval Almanac - the US Navy navigation | star position formulas and data are all open source (as products of the US Government). These days you can tease similar information from Celestia, Stellarium, and other astro projects. Sun angle wrt a smooth perfect ellipsoid is one thing .. actual sun angle + shadows in the presence of mountains, valleys, forests, tall buildings, etc is a whole other ball of fun.
- 7373737373 3y agoNo idea how OP did it, but libraries like astropy make it very easy: https://docs.astropy.org/en/stable/generated/examples/coordinates/plot_obs-planning.html https://docs.astropy.org/en/stable/generated/examples/coordi...
- Amithv 3y agoCalculation based on azimuth of bus and sun considering change in time and movement of bus.
- 6R1M0R4CL3 3y agowill someone think of the vampires ?
- aronhegedus 3y agoworked instantly! Where is the explanation for the calculations?
- ddano 3y agoThis is the level of creative thinking the industry needs! :D Kudos for the idea and execution, it's awesome :D
- siddheshgunjal 3y agoThis is so interesting and the fact that it works anywhere in the world is awesome buddy! And kudos for finishing your side project
- unobatbayar 3y agoSimply well done. The look and feel of the Submit button is cherry on top.
- abrarsami 3y agoDamn, this one hit the spot. Nice idea
- franzkappa 3y agoPosh! > A popular folk etymology holds that the term is an acronym for "port out, starboard home",[4] describing the cooler, north-facing cabins taken by the most aristocratic or rich passengers travelling from Britain to India and back. However, there is no evidence for this claim [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/posh https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/posh]
- mrjh 3y agoThis reminded me of the fabulously British song from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BzjPukTLoY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BzjPukTLoY
- devon_c 3y agoPlease post this to /r/SkincareAddiction Sick project!
- dkekenflxlf 3y agogood one! like it since im blonde
- saevarom 3y agoSeems to work, I'm located in Reykjavik Iceland and the website tells me there is no sun :) Left Side: 0.00% Right Side: 0.00% No Sun: 100.00%
- WinstonSmith84 3y agoSuppose when you live in Iceland or other similar latitudes, and the sun starts to appear on the horizon, the preferred seating is the sun side to see hours long sunrise / sunset
- dghughes 3y agoThat's a big assumption that the sun can even be seen lol it's always cloudy here in SE Canada it seems. It's nearly 8am the sun supposedly is up but the clouds are so thick it may as well be 5am.
- jonasft 3y agoSE Canada is like France, though. We’re talking Iceland here, which is way north compared
- dghughes 3y agoOh I know Iceland is about the same as northern Labrador or even south east Nunavut. But here in SE Canada especially Newfoundland the warm Gulfstream and Labrador current both meet here so it can be quite foggy. Plus it seems we are like the tailpipe of North America every weather system seems to end up here even hurricanes.
- avgcorrection 3y agoMore like there are two modes: no Sun or sunlight directly in your eyes.
- emsixteen 3y agoI get the same result[1], and I'd have expected that if I still live in the Arctic, but I'm a lot further south and see the sun out the window right now. [1] https://i.imgur.com/92jfFGy.png https://i.imgur.com/92jfFGy.png
- gregorvand 3y agoJust pick a seat with no sun
- threesmegiste 3y agoOnce a bus firm in Türkiye used this method
- wkjagt 3y agoWhat a cool idea! Well done! One feature suggestion: it would be cool if it asked you if you prefer the shade or the sun. I’m in Canada, and during winters I love to sit on the sunny side of the bus.
- reportgunner 3y agoYou need a feature to tell you to sit on the "wrong" side ? There's just two sides !
- Fricken 3y agohot dog/not hot dog
- moontear 3y agoWorks. Beautiful. Also works internationally. Good job! It would be splendid if you used 24 hour format per default instead of AM/PM or at least let me choose. You correctly figured out I am at UTC+01:00, but we don't use AM/PM here. I'm not perfectly happy with the colors in the final map. You use blue to represent right, yellowish for left and dark gray for "no sun". Your suggestion on top for preferred seating uses red. To me the preferred seating color should correspond with the left/right colors.
- Symbiote 3y agoIt says 13:31 for me, and it's just a <input type="time" ...> element. Is your browser using an AM/PM locale?
- Amithv 3y agoThanks for the suggestion. Time selection relies on the default settings of the browser/system.
- moontear 3y agoRight, locale is set to 24h but I do use US English as a language. I don’t see AM/PM anywhere, but on your site.
- yangxiaobo 3y agoThis is really an interesting feature, haha!
- linuxalien 3y agoThis is the kind of tool I like. Not sure what kind of edge case I've hit though. Trip from Perth to Exmouth in Western Australia, leaving 1:13pm UTC+1000, ends up suggesting the wrong side. Preferred Seating : Left Side 1250 km / 776.41 miles :14h 40m 33s Sun Exposure Data Left Side: 49.62% Right Side: 7.94% No Sun: 42.44%
- wizzwizz4 3y agoLeft side sun exposure < 50%, at a guess.
- dkekenflxlf 3y agosell it to apple!
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- Igor_Wiwi 3y agowhat is the tech stack you used to build this site?
- fdgjgbdfhgb 3y agoThis is very cool, congrats OP! I wish it would let me select some other cities the bus passes through, since as another commenter said it just uses the quickest way by car - though I guess that would not impact the seat selection too much, since the general direction of travel is still the same!
- wigster 3y agogenius. works for my trip to dudley castle!
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- larodi 3y agoWhats the technology behind this? Is it spatial SQL or some other python-based spatial analysis? I suppose the map is either open layers or leaflet, but the other part is more interesting. Sorry, didn't find it on the page or here, please take excuse if already answered. Thanks
- Amithv 3y agoBackend: Node.js Calculations are performed based on the azimuth of the sun and the bus, taking into account the movement of the bus and change in time.
- amelius 3y agoPlease extend this with the position of the Sun in your window. I don't mind the Sun if it's coming from the back, for example.
- meehow 3y agoAre you a vampire?
- flykespice 3y agoIneffective because a bus isn't stationary and can change orientation as it travels.
- Amithv 3y agoIt considers the bus's movement, orientation and the changes in time.
- ibrarmalik 3y agoI’m assuming this is taking that into account. Otherwise why would it compute a route?
- pinglin 3y agoThis is what I really need! My eyes are very sensitive to sunlight. Good stuff.
- mezi 3y agoGreat stuff :D I traveled too much between the ages 10-20 and I would have loved a site like this :D
- madcaptenor 3y agoAnother use case: seating in stadiums for outdoor sports. (Whether you want to be in the sun or not will depend on the time of year.) You'd need data on how stadiums are oriented though.
- adam-nmth 3y agoLove the idea + really nice website! Fun fact: There are some trains from Berlin to Munich which go through Leipzig, where they come out of the train station the same way they go in there, so both your ride direction and window side switches, which can be very annoying. ("luckily" there isn't much sunshine in this area most time of the year, haha)
- Congeec 3y agoHave I found a bug? I entered JFK and Heathrow, it resolves to correct airports but the map shows a route between London and Lisbon. Addresses used: John F. Kennedy International Airport, JFK Access Road, Queens, New York, 11430, United States Heathrow Airport, Cranford Lane, Hatton Cross, London Borough of Hillingdon, London, Greater London, England, TW6 2DN, United Kingdom
- Amithv 3y agoI think you used standard bus route search with JFK and Heathrow. OpenStreetMap suggests Lisbon since the departure and destination are on different continents, providing a route in close proximity to the destination with access to the sea. If you prefer the flight path, you can visit dev.sitinshade.com/flight [beta].
- burkaman 3y agoThis is an OpenStreetMap issue, that's what it gives you when you ask for driving directions across the Atlantic: https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=40.643%2C-73.779%3B51.468%2C-0.459#map=3/40.51/-20.21 https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm.... I'm not sure exactly what's going on, even if you provide a US address in the middle of the country it will only ever give you directions for the European side. If you replace Heathrow with a different continent, like Africa or Asia, it correctly says it can't find a route. My best guess is that the algorithm sees there is a water crossing, but then finds the ferry from France to England and says "ah ok all good". Maybe there is a special case to handle Europe to UK that is causing the problem? If you put in JFK to Dublin it will find two ferries, France to England and England to Ireland, but still nothing on the North American side. Edit: No nothing to do with the ferries, I think Europe just has some special status. For example, try Brazil -> Morocco vs. Brazil -> Spain.
- eythian 3y agoYou should team up with the people who wrote zonopjebakkes/seatsinthesun, which is used for finding bars and cafes that have terraces that are still in the sun, mostly useful in late summer afternoons as the evenings are getting shorter and cooler.
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- tppiotrowski 3y agohttps://jveuxdusoleil.fr/ https://jveuxdusoleil.fr/ is another fun one.
- Tempest1981 3y agoCool project! I'm having occasional problems with autocomplete of city names: Try typing "Sacramento" slowly... it shows 0 results as you type letters 6..9, then suddenly finds it on the last letter
- ballenf 3y agoIn a related vane, has there ever been a map/routing app that included weather forecasts visually on the map? Like, a storm cloud on route ahead that is based on the forecast for that position at the estimated time you'll reach it. I feel like routing apps have completely stagnated basically since the Waze acquisition by Google.
- totoglazer 3y agoIt’s common in boating, for sure!
- uticus 3y agoGreat work! Two questions on this related to extended trips that I can't find obvious answers to, even after using: [answered] does it calculate exposure for points on trip moving, or is exposure for all points calculated for same time? (Moving south-north for two hours before noon would be exposure on right/east for first half, on left/west for second half in northern hemisphere). Secondly, does this have any difficulty with trips that encompass certain times that often serve as "reset" markers? Such as trips that include midnight, or multiday trips? [edit: example for nothern hemisphere clarification] [second edit: looks like it does for first question, ref Oklahoma City to Wichita KS starting an hour before noon]
- Solvency 3y agoI need this combined with Alltrails or some other trail map data! My 4mo old absolutely hates direct sunlight which makes finding good walks/hikes in a carrier very challenging.
- AtNightWeCode 3y agoNext project can be a service for planning a walk in a city based on how much time one would like to spend in the shadow or in the sun.
- squidbot 3y agoThis is a great idea! I see others have mentioned ferries, however when I put my route in (Bainbridge Island to Seattle, WA) it chose roads not the ferry. Any way to force it to use my ferry route rather than the 3 hour road trip it chose?
- arcastroe 3y agoAlso try to sit towards the middle of the bus too, so that you don't get sun exposure from the front or back windows. When I read the title, I was expecting the site to give you an optimal "seat" (13A), but I suppose for this would need to know the exact bus make and model.
- dhritzkiv 3y agoFound a bug on the first search I ran, where the right side is preferred, despite having more sun (10.55%) vs. the left side (6.64%). Not sure how. All other searches gave more expected results. Parameters: - Toronto to Montreal at 3:21PM EST.
- 29athrowaway 3y agoPerhaps we should take genes from Deinococcus radiodurans and put them in humans.
- meshaneian 3y agoThis sounds particularly useful to me. As a shut-in. Not a vampire.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoHere is my strategy for boarding the bus: try to figure out how not to be toppled by a bus driver who's eager to hit the accelerator as soon as my fare is validated. As a result, I am usually collapsing into the first available seat that isn't completely soaked in urine or vomit. The Sun's position is usually the last thing on my mind at this point.
- lsferreira42 3y agoIs it open source?
- nyc0x80 3y agoThat is so cool !
- bobnarizes 3y agoIt looks great! I had the same problem while traveling by train during my time at university, so I created an app for that, including features for trains, buses, and even car trips. It was called Sunny Boy - https://github.com/taranntell/SunnyBoy https://github.com/taranntell/SunnyBoy I didn't succeed in generating revenue, but building it was a lot of fun! Kudos and best of luck
- all-an 3y agoGreat ! I am just testing here in Brazil !