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Just get a modern Sony TV and be done with it. They perfected Motionflow to the point where you no longer think about framerate (choppiness nor soap opera). It'

by bkm 3y ago

Just get a modern Sony TV and be done with it. They perfected Motionflow to the point where you no longer think about framerate (choppiness nor soap opera). It's clearly a priority, probably because they are the only manufacturer with their own studios (Columbia/Sony pictures). There is a reason people pay the $800+ Sony tax over any TV that has the same panel.

richwater 3y ago
Is it just that easy? Do you have any specific model recs?
- Flameancer 3y ago
  I have an A80J and it’s possibly the best panel I’ve owned/seen in any house that didn’t have something similar. My dad who is a big movie buff with an Atmos HiFi actually got one like a month later after being a big LG fan.
- imp0cat 3y ago
  It's easy, but expensive. ;) Search for Digital Trends on youtube, they have a lot of videos about this. Their current "budget" pick seems to be the Sony Bravia X90L.
deanCommie 3y ago
That doesn't make sense. Are you saying these TV's still butcher the original artistic intent of the creators for the sake of arbitrary petty consumer desires to have their expensive TV purchase be justified? But they just do it better than the other manufacturers do?
- flir 3y ago
  C'mon, that's a reddit-level wilful misinterpretation of what he actually said. I mean, look: Are you saying the original artistic intent of the creators to insert unskippable ads at the beginning of the disc is more important than the consumer's right to control the playback of the content they bought? Plus I heard it might kill babies. See? It's just silly.
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- fomine3 3y ago
  It's a sort of truth. Creators' intension isn't so special for consumers.
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chpatrick 3y ago
But then what framerate is it?
thedougd 3y ago
Are they changing their interpolation settings based on source material? Some TVs will disable motion interpolation when they detect 24 frame rate content.
- imp0cat 3y ago
  Yes, Sony TVs try to detect the original fps and display it accurately. https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comments/7ztuwv/what_is_motionflow_and_cinemotion/?rdt=52292 https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comments/7ztuwv/what_is_moti...
com2kid 3y ago
The Sony tax is because ads on Sony TVs can all be turned off. Plenty of TVs have their price subsidized by ads, where as when going through initial setup, I've had Sony TVs with ads disabled by default and questions asking if you want to turn them on. Sadly disabling "recommended content" on the Google TV launcher also disabled voice search from the remote, but I am pretty sure that is a Google problem and not something Sony chose. (Also my Sony TV cannot stay connected to my WiFi network for more than half an hour before I have to toggle WiFi on and off again...)
- arantius 3y ago
  It took me several tries to find it but the Projectivy launcher ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu&hl=en&gl=US&pli=1 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.pro... ) is a great replacement for the Android/Google TV launcher like it used to be, with no "suggestions" -- just your content. But definitely use the "override current launcher" setting. The description implies this is a "only if you're having problems" option, but I find it makes a variety of subtle things work the way they should.
- hackmiester 3y ago
  That behavior follows, given that Google is an ad company.
- kridsdale1 3y ago
  All TVs can have ads disabled: unplug the Ethernet.
  - com2kid 3y ago
    Given that 100% of my TV usage falls into these categories: 1. Controlling Spotify 2. YouTube videos 3. Photo Albums from Google Photos No network connectivity would render my TV completely useless. Though I think I could show photo from a thumb drive, so I'd have that going for me I guess.
    - hirvi74 3y ago
viktorcode 3y ago
I own one, and can say that Motionflow produces uneven results. In certain scenes it kicks in, while completely ignoring others. Still has a way to go.
Flameancer 3y ago
Bit the don’t tax almost three years ago on an A80J. Honestly the best panel I’ve had. Probably going to buy another Sony panel to replace a circa 2012 4K Samsung.
dewbrite 3y ago
Not sure exactly what display I have, but it's a recent OLED Bravia. Motion smoothing is still awful.

by bkm 3y ago

richwater 3y ago

Is it just that easy? Do you have any specific model recs?

Flameancer 3y ago
I have an A80J and it’s possibly the best panel I’ve owned/seen in any house that didn’t have something similar. My dad who is a big movie buff with an Atmos HiFi actually got one like a month later after being a big LG fan.
imp0cat 3y ago
It's easy, but expensive. ;) Search for Digital Trends on youtube, they have a lot of videos about this. Their current "budget" pick seems to be the Sony Bravia X90L.

deanCommie 3y ago

That doesn't make sense. Are you saying these TV's still butcher the original artistic intent of the creators for the sake of arbitrary petty consumer desires to have their expensive TV purchase be justified? But they just do it better than the other manufacturers do?

flir 3y ago
C'mon, that's a reddit-level wilful misinterpretation of what he actually said. I mean, look: Are you saying the original artistic intent of the creators to insert unskippable ads at the beginning of the disc is more important than the consumer's right to control the playback of the content they bought? Plus I heard it might kill babies. See? It's just silly.
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fomine3 3y ago
It's a sort of truth. Creators' intension isn't so special for consumers.
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chpatrick 3y ago

But then what framerate is it?

thedougd 3y ago

Are they changing their interpolation settings based on source material? Some TVs will disable motion interpolation when they detect 24 frame rate content.

imp0cat 3y ago
Yes, Sony TVs try to detect the original fps and display it accurately. https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comments/7ztuwv/what_is_motionflow_and_cinemotion/?rdt=52292 https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comments/7ztuwv/what_is_moti...

com2kid 3y ago

The Sony tax is because ads on Sony TVs can all be turned off. Plenty of TVs have their price subsidized by ads, where as when going through initial setup, I've had Sony TVs with ads disabled by default and questions asking if you want to turn them on. Sadly disabling "recommended content" on the Google TV launcher also disabled voice search from the remote, but I am pretty sure that is a Google problem and not something Sony chose. (Also my Sony TV cannot stay connected to my WiFi network for more than half an hour before I have to toggle WiFi on and off again...)

arantius 3y ago
It took me several tries to find it but the Projectivy launcher ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.projengmenu&hl=en&gl=US&pli=1 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spocky.pro... ) is a great replacement for the Android/Google TV launcher like it used to be, with no "suggestions" -- just your content. But definitely use the "override current launcher" setting. The description implies this is a "only if you're having problems" option, but I find it makes a variety of subtle things work the way they should.
hackmiester 3y ago
That behavior follows, given that Google is an ad company.
kridsdale1 3y ago
All TVs can have ads disabled: unplug the Ethernet.
- com2kid 3y ago
  Given that 100% of my TV usage falls into these categories: 1. Controlling Spotify 2. YouTube videos 3. Photo Albums from Google Photos No network connectivity would render my TV completely useless. Though I think I could show photo from a thumb drive, so I'd have that going for me I guess.
  - hirvi74 3y ago

viktorcode 3y ago

I own one, and can say that Motionflow produces uneven results. In certain scenes it kicks in, while completely ignoring others. Still has a way to go.

Flameancer 3y ago

Bit the don’t tax almost three years ago on an A80J. Honestly the best panel I’ve had. Probably going to buy another Sony panel to replace a circa 2012 4K Samsung.

dewbrite 3y ago

Not sure exactly what display I have, but it's a recent OLED Bravia. Motion smoothing is still awful.