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Please stop sending me emails written by GPT
- michaelaiello 3y agoIs there a prompt someone has created yet to translate all their incoming email to a format/structure they like?
- ChrisLTD 3y agoI would absolutely love this
- inconceivable 3y agofinally, my annoying habit (annoying for other people, that is) of typing in terse irc-style with no capitalizations and minimal punctuation comes in handy.
- dubcanada 3y agoJust use GPT to summarize the email and formulate a response. Probably solved.
- JohnFen 3y agoWhy bother with getting a summary of the email? Just have it write the response for you blind. Fair's fair.
- jwood27 3y ago"Please if you want to send me a message and feel compelled to use GPT, please just send me whatever you wrote in your prompt instead. I promise I will still read it!" We can dream.
- eimrine 3y ago[flagged]
- cardboardbach 3y ago[dead]
- TrickardRixx 3y agoSurely TFA could ask ChatGPT for a prompt that would generate the email, and then read that?
- mateusfreira 3y agoMay I subscribe to this movement too? We should make a manifest or something so others can sing-in
- oxfordmale 3y agoCan someone please use ChatGPT to design an email filter to move CHatGPT generated emails straight to the Recycle bin?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoOne would have to accept dealing with the difficulties caused by many false positives.
- Veen 3y agoIt's not possible. The current AI detectors are extremely unreliable, whatever people selling them might tell you. You'd probably get fewer false positives by filtering the people who send mail that you think is AI generated.
- patrakov 3y agoThere is no need to use ChatGPT for that. I suppose running the emails through LanguageTool (or, if you don't care about privacy, Grammarly) and counting the suggestions to fix "too wordy sentences" would be a good approximation.
- hathym 3y agoworks great for me in my corporate job :)
- cantSpellSober 3y agoI've gotten several emails from a recruiter that address me as my last name, all lower caps (Hi swanson, this job..."). It was for an AI company of course.
- low_tech_love 3y agoThis is just the beginning. Ever since late last year, I estimate that around 25-30% of everyone I ever talked to via some online session where we had to share the screen for something or another, had a ChatGPT tab open. For students this jumps to around 50%.
- guenthert 3y agoCount yourself lucky! Last message I got from a recruiter was addressed to {firstname}.
- malikNF 3y ago> Please if you want to send me a message and feel compelled to use GPT, please just send me whatever you wrote in your prompt instead. I promise I will still read it! Best bit of the article. Question for someone who knows more about this stuff. How likely is it to get the same response to the same prompt with gpt ? Does it have some kind of random seed applied behind the scenes? -edit- Thank you for the responses. TIL.
- gkoberger 3y agoIt's not a random seed, but it will always be slightly different. It's similar to "prompting" a human... you'll likely get the same general result if you ask the same person the same question a dozen times, but it will have enough variability that it won't be identical.
- thefreeman 3y agoPretty sure this is entirely dependent upon the "temperature" parameter used when inferring. The higher the temperature the more uniform the response will be.
- drusepth 3y agoQuick fix: the higher the temperature, the more varied the potential responses. For uniform responses, you want the lowest temperature.
- thefreeman 3y agoOof. I was worried I was going to mess that up.
- low_tech_love 3y agoIt's certainly not in any way whatsoever similar to "prompting" a human. And yes there are definitely random processes involved. For an extremely objective prompt you may get very similar results but for general stuff like "write an e-mail about this or that" it will be significantly different each time.
- bingaling 3y agothe wit's soul wears briefs or something
- ymck 3y agoNo.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoThe author seems unaware or at least uninterested in the fact that writing style can have a dramatic impact on output. It's unclear if they wish to not be emailed "by ChatGPT" or if they wish to not have to sift through unnecessary and flowery pose. I'll spare you the details, but a follow up "That's great. However, please rewrite it in the style of Ernest Hemingway." delivers concise, yet obviously Hemingway-esque emails. Example here: https://pastebin.com/rrkCMd8c https://pastebin.com/rrkCMd8c It works much better in a two-step process. If "Write this email in the style of Ernest Hemingway" is affixed to the original prompt, the model will generate prose at length, defeating the purpose of being concise. "That's great. However, please rewrite it in the concise style of Paul Graham," of course, works even better.
- progbits 3y ago> I'll also be taking Friday off. Turns into: > Come Friday, I won't be in. Just one day. Things will continue, though. Any emergencies, I'm a call away. Off is off, don't call me. Must have been trained on a lot of linkedin posts to volunteer your personal time like this.
- haldean 3y agoIf I received the second email there I would think the sender was a psychopath
- cl42 3y agoI love these multi-step prompt 'hacks'. They very much take advantage of the fact that this is still 'just' a model predicting the next token. Asking a model to write an email as if it were written by Hemingway requires the model to generate a probability distribution based on the context of an email it needs to write + the style it needs to write it. In the second approach, you've changed the model weights/inputs by including the email in the context window, so the task of predicting the next token is fundamentally different (and possibly easier) for the model. It's also why models are sometimes bad at answering a factual question, but good at judging whether their own answer is correct.
- dwighttk 3y ago
- neurobashing 3y agoFrom what I've seen so far, the best writers (and, I suppose, the best _editors_) tend to get the best results from ChatGPT. I have seen some examples of people whose writing I already liked drive it in ways I never imagined; but like the author suggest "normies" tend to get piles of drivel.
- BoorishBears 3y agoI mean, you can say - "I really really hate this line" - "I love that line a little bit, hmm actually I read it a bit more and it started to stink" - "This line feels a little too Vogue" - "Can we make this a little more Arnold in Kindergarten Cop" And it will distill that into something distinctly actionable. You have an interface to communicate your edits in the lowest friction way ever exposed by mankind and people are still trying to enter a prompt and Ctrl+C Ctrl+V.
- simplyluke 3y agoMy experience, both writing and coding non-boilerplate so far, has been that this back and forth almost always takes longer than doing the work myself. There are situations that's not true, namely information retrieval, but I've yet to find it highly practical beyond being a fun experience.
- BoorishBears 3y agoThat's why there's room for all the tools everyone dismisses as prompt wrappers. You can ask GPT-4 for code or you can use Co-Pilot and have it autocomplete as you type
- paulpauper 3y ago"i hope our paths meet again" It would seem as if gestures of kindness are more likely to be fake compared to meanness, criticism, or other negativity. I think this is why 1-3 star reviews are so useful, same for reviews posted to reddit , because they are more critical.
- ArjenM 3y agoI'm already impressed when someone spells my name correctly, the bar isn't that high on the matter of email etiquette for me.
- racl101 3y agoFeel like all the people who use proper diction and grammar are gonna be collateral damage in all this.
- JohnFen 3y agoFeels like everyone is going to take collateral damage one way or another.
- elashri 3y agoMaybe this is a personal experience. As a non-native English speaker who works in academia. I learned formal English since I was a child. ChatGPT/bard will produce a much quicker formal professional email than I will do. But if I took my time to check the email, I would produce a similar email, which is actually how I normally write if I'm sending an email to a professor or someone else in the field. AI like bard or ChatGPT will be a huge time saver in such cases. However, living in the US for half a decade changed a lot.
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- ChrisLTD 3y agoWith the cat out of the bag on these AI tools, the solution will be to have GPT summarize and tag your emails for you to decide if you need to read the whole thing.
- i2cmaster 3y agoNext people will have GPT4 summarize their mailbox. Ten years from now it will all just be robots mailing each other and no one will understand why things keep breaking.
- collaborative 3y agoActually I wish many of my colleagues used GPT to write their emails
- kumi111 3y agoWhat is going to happen if people start to increase the length of emails and laws (luckily privacy stuff are being reduced in Europe to be more easily understandable by non-lawyers) to the point where it's like a book, imagine people stop to read them at all, and just use LLMs to ask questions directly, which can still marginally give wrong answers. It's like bypassing human limit of time, because now people can read few books in like 10-20 min, and so everything can increase too.
- lloeki 3y agosender: writes summarized prompt llm: emits excessively lengthy and polite prose smtp: transports lengthy prose llm: summarizes lentghy prose to bullet points recipient: reads summary what a wonderful waste of energy
- spondylosaurus 3y agoThe way out of this is to make it acceptable to send emails that open with a polite greeting and then just outline their message in bullet points. As long as they're intelligible and not outright rude, emails really don't need to be a writing contest.
- gcoakes 3y agoIs email really like that for other industries? Where I work, the only non-content prose I read or write is the salutation and signature: ``` Hello Bob, We're observing an issue with X, and I was directed to you by Y as a good point of contact. Do you have any comments on: 1. Some point of interest. 2. ... There's more info at: Jira: http://some.site/TICKET-1 http://some.site/TICKET-1 Customer Ticket: https://someother.site/1234 https://someother.site/1234 Respectfully, <name> ```
- spondylosaurus 3y agoThis is more or less how I write emails, but most of the emails I receive are pretty bloated.
- jedberg 3y agoI used ChatGPT to write my wife's Mother's Day card. I had to keep prompting it "now make it funnier" about five times. Then I had to edit it myself because it was still too formal. It didn't matter, she immediately called me out as soon as she read it. :)
- nluken 3y agoI'm sure the output of this LLM could be improved with some hacking but why bother? Are we really at a point where we're nitpicking about the best way to automate away any kind of interpersonal communication?
- duxup 3y agoWe really just want AI for the purpose of BSing other people. I would know, I just asked it to write a privacy policy for me …
- pleb_nz 3y agoEmails. Just get to the point and highlight the important details as bullets. Long emails with lots or big paragraphs rarely get read, or at least read properly. Keep it short, on point, to the point. Note. Milage varies based on targets
- zvmaz 3y agoI haven't thought too deeply about it, but do we have a moral obligation to be "authentic" when writing something? I.e., writing with our own words instead of using a machine to speak our minds? An email entirely written by chatGPT seems problematic.
- gregors 3y agothe billion spammy emails I've received also sound like this....training data