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While I've never used Google's toilets, cleaning your asshole using a water spray is usually accomplished by a bidet. They're somewhat common in toilets in part

While I've never used Google's toilets, cleaning your asshole using a water spray is usually accomplished by a bidet. They're somewhat common in toilets in parts of Europe, and quite common in Japan. It's preference, but people usually like them. That being said, if the toilet component sucked then the whole experience will suck. I just wouldn't discount ass-spraying toilets from one bad toilet. EDIT: Almost all the toilets with bidets I've used have also had manual flush options, although the UX is hit or miss.

buro9 3y ago
I was never convinced on bidets as in the UK virtually no-one has them. But then I heard the line (from a Frenchman) "If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum?". On reflection, why aren't they everywhere?
- idontwantthis 3y ago
  Seriously. Once you have lived abroad and gotten used to it, you can’t go back to toilet paper. It is revolting, and ineffective compared to just a little bit of water.
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    Wait, aren't you still wiping your butt afterwards ? at least to wipe the water ?
    - DrThunder 3y ago
      Not really wiping, just padding. This avoids the dreaded rolls of tp stuck in your ass as well.
- tescocles 3y ago
  "If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum?" I don't know about you but I don't tend to touch my keyboard or food with my anus like I do with my hands
  - wincy 3y ago
    You’ll just rip little tears with rough paper all over your sensitive anus instead, giving yourself terrible hemorrhoids.
    - SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
      If you're wiping so hard you're giving yourself hemorrhoids the material you're using is probably not the issue.
- wincy 3y ago
  I bought myself a $400 bidet for my birthday 6 or so years ago. It’s totally cured my hemorrhoids (and my wifes!) which were a major problem before. South Park recently had a very funny (and tame for them) episode about toilet paper and bidets. Obviously it’s fictionalized but a combination of marketing and non historical usage keeps people in the US from widely adopting something that would be hugely beneficial to them.
  - jwestbury 3y ago
    As someone else with haemorrhoids, my Toto bidet seat really did improve my life significantly. I've now moved to the UK, where the lack of power outlets in bathrooms (and the fact that our flat has toilets with in-wall tanks) means I'm bidetless, and it's made my life worse again. :(
    - aaronmdjones 3y ago
      As a UK electrician, you can have power outlets in your bathroom. However, it has to obey certain rules. For example, if it is a BS1363 socket, it must be 2.5 metres outside of zone 2 (basically not close to any sinks or baths). This restriction does not apply to switched-fused connection units [1] so you can have an electrician install one of those next to your toilet regardless of how close that is to your bath or sink. These are also used for e.g. heated towel rails. [1] https://media.screwfix.com/is/image/ae235/13479_P https://media.screwfix.com/is/image/ae235/13479_P
    - coremoff 3y ago
      You can get a Shatfa or "bum gun" installed next to your toilet instead, if you can't get power for an on-seat bidet instead. They are very common in the Middle East. Personally I wouldn't do without one and would install one in any new home I moved to.
      - bluGill 3y ago
        Every one of them I've seen was the cause of a large puddle on the floor next to the toilet. I've only seen them in India and so this might be a statement on infrastructure in India. They are all over in India and they all leak, so I'm not interested in having one in my house.
- nkrisc 3y ago
  > If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum? For one thing, I don’t eat with my bum. I’m still in favor of bidets.
  - DrThunder 3y ago
    Yes, but I assume you actually clean your ass with soap when you shower? So, why then would be ok leaving your turd residue to get on your underwear all day?
    - nkrisc 3y ago
      To be clear, I do think bidets are superior to wiping your ass with bits of thin paper. That said, if a bit of toilet paper can't get rid of all the "turd residue" down there, then I don't think a bidet is going to be all that much more effective. I may be naïve, as bidets are exceedingly rare where I live, but I've never heard of one that uses soap and scrubs your bum as well. After all, don't people who use bidets still wash their ass with soap in the shower? I can only speak for myself, but at the end of the day my underwear is not covered in "turd residue." If a bidet is the only thing between you and shit-stained underwear, toilet paper might not be the issue. I assure you, as barbaric as we are in the bidet-less reaches of the world, most of us are not walking around with turd residue seeping from our underwear.
      - DrThunder 3y ago
        Your tp is not getting rid of all the feces in your butt and it's leaving a bunch of pieces of rolled up shit paper behind in your ass. I don't care how good of a wiper you are. Yes a water pressurized bidet spraying your crack is quite a bit better... not as good as actual soap but still. You can apply this to any body part and ask yourself if you think wiping that part with some shaved off tree is better than water???
- bombcar 3y ago
  There's a difference between pressure washing bidets and those that seem to just be a sink so you can get down and dirty with your bum and fingers
  - thejackgoode 3y ago
    Similar dichotomy applies, pressure washing bidets also splatter. It depends on circumstances, you know
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Price and maintenance. I asked while in France, and while you can buy them - you need an electric plug, and builders tend to avoid putting them in the toilets or aren't asked for in the first place. - once you have them, the water clogs the thin pipes with calcium apparently. So every one/two year we'd have to replace the tubes.
  - MajimasEyepatch 3y ago
    The calcium issue would mostly depend on the hardness of your water, right? So that would probably vary by region.
    - makeitdouble 3y ago
      It is, and Japanese water is overall pretty soft so it helps in that regard.
- irrational 3y ago
  We got one during the pandemic when TP was hard to come by. Life changer. I am now spoiled and hate using a non bidet toilet. Ours has a heated seat, warm water, a nice air vent to dry off your bum. So nice.
th15row 3y ago
I'm used to bidets (separate from the toilet) being present in every bathroom, so it's strange to me how some people are completely unaware of the concept.

buro9 3y ago

I was never convinced on bidets as in the UK virtually no-one has them. But then I heard the line (from a Frenchman) "If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum?". On reflection, why aren't they everywhere?

idontwantthis 3y ago
Seriously. Once you have lived abroad and gotten used to it, you can’t go back to toilet paper. It is revolting, and ineffective compared to just a little bit of water.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Wait, aren't you still wiping your butt afterwards ? at least to wipe the water ?
  - DrThunder 3y ago
    Not really wiping, just padding. This avoids the dreaded rolls of tp stuck in your ass as well.
tescocles 3y ago
"If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum?" I don't know about you but I don't tend to touch my keyboard or food with my anus like I do with my hands
- wincy 3y ago
  You’ll just rip little tears with rough paper all over your sensitive anus instead, giving yourself terrible hemorrhoids.
  - SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
    If you're wiping so hard you're giving yourself hemorrhoids the material you're using is probably not the issue.
wincy 3y ago
I bought myself a $400 bidet for my birthday 6 or so years ago. It’s totally cured my hemorrhoids (and my wifes!) which were a major problem before. South Park recently had a very funny (and tame for them) episode about toilet paper and bidets. Obviously it’s fictionalized but a combination of marketing and non historical usage keeps people in the US from widely adopting something that would be hugely beneficial to them.
- jwestbury 3y ago
  As someone else with haemorrhoids, my Toto bidet seat really did improve my life significantly. I've now moved to the UK, where the lack of power outlets in bathrooms (and the fact that our flat has toilets with in-wall tanks) means I'm bidetless, and it's made my life worse again. :(
  - aaronmdjones 3y ago
    As a UK electrician, you can have power outlets in your bathroom. However, it has to obey certain rules. For example, if it is a BS1363 socket, it must be 2.5 metres outside of zone 2 (basically not close to any sinks or baths). This restriction does not apply to switched-fused connection units [1] so you can have an electrician install one of those next to your toilet regardless of how close that is to your bath or sink. These are also used for e.g. heated towel rails. [1] https://media.screwfix.com/is/image/ae235/13479_P https://media.screwfix.com/is/image/ae235/13479_P
  - coremoff 3y ago
    You can get a Shatfa or "bum gun" installed next to your toilet instead, if you can't get power for an on-seat bidet instead. They are very common in the Middle East. Personally I wouldn't do without one and would install one in any new home I moved to.
    - bluGill 3y ago
      Every one of them I've seen was the cause of a large puddle on the floor next to the toilet. I've only seen them in India and so this might be a statement on infrastructure in India. They are all over in India and they all leak, so I'm not interested in having one in my house.
nkrisc 3y ago
> If you got shit on your fingers would you wipe it off with a piece of tissue, or wash your hands? Why would the answer be different for your bum? For one thing, I don’t eat with my bum. I’m still in favor of bidets.
- DrThunder 3y ago
  Yes, but I assume you actually clean your ass with soap when you shower? So, why then would be ok leaving your turd residue to get on your underwear all day?
  - nkrisc 3y ago
    To be clear, I do think bidets are superior to wiping your ass with bits of thin paper. That said, if a bit of toilet paper can't get rid of all the "turd residue" down there, then I don't think a bidet is going to be all that much more effective. I may be naïve, as bidets are exceedingly rare where I live, but I've never heard of one that uses soap and scrubs your bum as well. After all, don't people who use bidets still wash their ass with soap in the shower? I can only speak for myself, but at the end of the day my underwear is not covered in "turd residue." If a bidet is the only thing between you and shit-stained underwear, toilet paper might not be the issue. I assure you, as barbaric as we are in the bidet-less reaches of the world, most of us are not walking around with turd residue seeping from our underwear.
    - DrThunder 3y ago
      Your tp is not getting rid of all the feces in your butt and it's leaving a bunch of pieces of rolled up shit paper behind in your ass. I don't care how good of a wiper you are. Yes a water pressurized bidet spraying your crack is quite a bit better... not as good as actual soap but still. You can apply this to any body part and ask yourself if you think wiping that part with some shaved off tree is better than water???
bombcar 3y ago
There's a difference between pressure washing bidets and those that seem to just be a sink so you can get down and dirty with your bum and fingers
- thejackgoode 3y ago
  Similar dichotomy applies, pressure washing bidets also splatter. It depends on circumstances, you know
makeitdouble 3y ago
Price and maintenance. I asked while in France, and while you can buy them - you need an electric plug, and builders tend to avoid putting them in the toilets or aren't asked for in the first place. - once you have them, the water clogs the thin pipes with calcium apparently. So every one/two year we'd have to replace the tubes.
- MajimasEyepatch 3y ago
  The calcium issue would mostly depend on the hardness of your water, right? So that would probably vary by region.
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    It is, and Japanese water is overall pretty soft so it helps in that regard.
irrational 3y ago
We got one during the pandemic when TP was hard to come by. Life changer. I am now spoiled and hate using a non bidet toilet. Ours has a heated seat, warm water, a nice air vent to dry off your bum. So nice.

th15row 3y ago

I'm used to bidets (separate from the toilet) being present in every bathroom, so it's strange to me how some people are completely unaware of the concept.