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Dino 0.4 – Message Reactions, Replies and GTK4

89 points by larma 4y ago

transfire 4y ago
Does XMPP support conversation threads?
- MattJ100 4y ago
  The latest version of the Cheogram app (Android) has a neat implementation (demo video: https://kumi.tube/w/1LQQp5Uia4u8Pdojxen1y8 https://kumi.tube/w/1LQQp5Uia4u8Pdojxen1y8 ). At the XMPP summit in Brussels last week we had several developers across different projects converge on an approach based on this, so I'd expect to start seeing even more clients supporting threads in the near future.
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Zash 4y ago
Congrats on the release! Reactions, replies and mobile Linux support are all features many users have asked for.
- summersprite7 4y ago
  Seems like it's only the main screen that was adjusted for Linux mobile, no full Linux mobile support yet. Hopefully the rest will follow.
  - larma 4y ago
    Yes, the whole app will be Linux Mobile ready soonish, but priority was to have the main screen first and get everything ready in-time for Debian stable inclusion
rattlesnakedave 4y ago
Not to be confused with "Deno"[1] the javascript runtime [1] https://deno.land/ https://deno.land/
- mega-tux 4y ago
  yeah, right...I was thinking "Why Dino announced changes related to the GTK GUI toolkit?"
- avtar 4y ago
  Too late, I clicked expecting Deno news :P "Dino is a modern open-source chat client for the desktop. It focuses on providing a clean and reliable Jabber/XMPP experience while having your privacy in mind."
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xiaomai 4y ago
Thanks Dino team, I am a big fan of this XMPP client.
jonas-w 4y ago
I wish xmpp would be as wide spread as matrix. It is so much more lightweight (prosody vs synapse) and doesn't make requests to anything else than the people i chat with.
- yaky 4y ago
  Agreed. After trying out Matrix, SimpleX Chat, and XMPP for everyday use with my spouse, XMPP has been the most reliable and has instant message delivery.
- Zash 4y ago
  Be the change you wish to see in the world ;)
- pantalaimon 4y ago
  Yea I'm always depressed by how long it takes the Element client to refresh (update the history of) a medium number of subscribed channels. It's just text messages, why does it take so long?
  - kxldodo 4y ago
    Because Matrix is designed as a distributed database instead of as a message passing service so Synapse has to catch up before you can do anything.. awful..
  - robert_foss 4y ago
    Slowness of all kinds have the major goal for Matrix to fix in the last few months, they recently presented very impressive improvements at FOSDEM. https://video.fosdem.org/2023/Janson/matrix20.mp4 https://video.fosdem.org/2023/Janson/matrix20.mp4
  - jonas-w 4y ago
    Same, it feels so sluggish and slow compared to xmpp clients, even in small private chats, public rooms on matrix are on another level of unusable. Also that element is the only client that supports all features, would love to switch something more lightweight but most of them have some features missing (that i would miss) or even e2ee missing. Kind of funny that your name matches an e2ee matrix proxy. https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon
kxldodo 4y ago
What XMPP clients are good to pair with Dino when chatting with people on other platforms? I've heard Conversations is good on Android but I'd love to hear about interop with iOS, Web, and Windows/Mac clients if anyone cares to share anecdotes
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  cheogram is my current favorite fork/upgrade of conversations. it works really well with jmp.chat for an xmpp phone number and to text your friends via that phone number from xmpp. I personally like gajim better than dino, but dino 0.4 hasn't made it to my flavor of arch yet so I am waiting to find out if it's worth switching on the desktop or not. interoperability isn't a problem as long as your clients all support the xeps the others are choosing to use (this should be true of most full fledged clients).
- j--r 4y ago
  There is an unofficial windows port over at https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/tree/master-windows-changes https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/tree/master-windows-change... which works quite well for me
Zababa 4y ago
The reminder of what Dino is at the start of the article is great, thanks for that. Congratulations on the release!

89 points by larma 4y ago

transfire 4y ago

Does XMPP support conversation threads?

MattJ100 4y ago
The latest version of the Cheogram app (Android) has a neat implementation (demo video: https://kumi.tube/w/1LQQp5Uia4u8Pdojxen1y8 https://kumi.tube/w/1LQQp5Uia4u8Pdojxen1y8 ). At the XMPP summit in Brussels last week we had several developers across different projects converge on an approach based on this, so I'd expect to start seeing even more clients supporting threads in the near future.

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Zash 4y ago

Congrats on the release! Reactions, replies and mobile Linux support are all features many users have asked for.

summersprite7 4y ago
Seems like it's only the main screen that was adjusted for Linux mobile, no full Linux mobile support yet. Hopefully the rest will follow.
- larma 4y ago
  Yes, the whole app will be Linux Mobile ready soonish, but priority was to have the main screen first and get everything ready in-time for Debian stable inclusion

rattlesnakedave 4y ago

Not to be confused with "Deno"[1] the javascript runtime [1] https://deno.land/ https://deno.land/

mega-tux 4y ago
yeah, right...I was thinking "Why Dino announced changes related to the GTK GUI toolkit?"
avtar 4y ago
Too late, I clicked expecting Deno news :P "Dino is a modern open-source chat client for the desktop. It focuses on providing a clean and reliable Jabber/XMPP experience while having your privacy in mind."
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xiaomai 4y ago

Thanks Dino team, I am a big fan of this XMPP client.

jonas-w 4y ago

I wish xmpp would be as wide spread as matrix. It is so much more lightweight (prosody vs synapse) and doesn't make requests to anything else than the people i chat with.

yaky 4y ago
Agreed. After trying out Matrix, SimpleX Chat, and XMPP for everyday use with my spouse, XMPP has been the most reliable and has instant message delivery.
Zash 4y ago
Be the change you wish to see in the world ;)
pantalaimon 4y ago
Yea I'm always depressed by how long it takes the Element client to refresh (update the history of) a medium number of subscribed channels. It's just text messages, why does it take so long?
- kxldodo 4y ago
  Because Matrix is designed as a distributed database instead of as a message passing service so Synapse has to catch up before you can do anything.. awful..
- robert_foss 4y ago
  Slowness of all kinds have the major goal for Matrix to fix in the last few months, they recently presented very impressive improvements at FOSDEM. https://video.fosdem.org/2023/Janson/matrix20.mp4 https://video.fosdem.org/2023/Janson/matrix20.mp4
- jonas-w 4y ago
  Same, it feels so sluggish and slow compared to xmpp clients, even in small private chats, public rooms on matrix are on another level of unusable. Also that element is the only client that supports all features, would love to switch something more lightweight but most of them have some features missing (that i would miss) or even e2ee missing. Kind of funny that your name matches an e2ee matrix proxy. https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon https://github.com/matrix-org/pantalaimon

kxldodo 4y ago

What XMPP clients are good to pair with Dino when chatting with people on other platforms? I've heard Conversations is good on Android but I'd love to hear about interop with iOS, Web, and Windows/Mac clients if anyone cares to share anecdotes

snapplebobapple 4y ago
cheogram is my current favorite fork/upgrade of conversations. it works really well with jmp.chat for an xmpp phone number and to text your friends via that phone number from xmpp. I personally like gajim better than dino, but dino 0.4 hasn't made it to my flavor of arch yet so I am waiting to find out if it's worth switching on the desktop or not. interoperability isn't a problem as long as your clients all support the xeps the others are choosing to use (this should be true of most full fledged clients).
j--r 4y ago
There is an unofficial windows port over at https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/tree/master-windows-changes https://github.com/LAGonauta/dino/tree/master-windows-change... which works quite well for me

Zababa 4y ago

The reminder of what Dino is at the start of the article is great, thanks for that. Congratulations on the release!