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3y ago
> we have zero fragmentation so far. some clients implement more features than others The Matrix spec has many versions and many features. Clients implement and keep up with varying parts of it due to varying reasons usually involving va
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Zash
3y ago
Pretty sure I remember the AP spec author saying the whole thing works very much like XMPP. But they couldn't have built on top of XMPP for some unspecified reason.
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Zash
3y ago
Pretty sure the client feature parity problem is inherent to open ecosystems with many vendors with varying priorities and budgets. Just look at the web back when there were more browsers in the game, or email clients etc.
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Zash
3y ago
XMPP simply does not have enough Hype, it's just boring old technology that keeps working and getting better over time despite lack of funding and startups.
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Zash
3y ago
But most of all, users care about talking to their friends. You could have all the features and amazing UX but if their friends are using tin cans and wet wire, that's what they will turn to. Network effect trumps all. Features and U
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Zash
3y ago
Such a subset exists already: https://xmpp.org/about/compliance-suites/
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Zash
4y ago
XMPP is still around and alive. Have you seen https://sr.ht/~nicoco/slidge/ ? No need to resort to murder.
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Zash
4y ago
Be the change you wish to see in the world ;)
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4y ago
Congrats on the release! Reactions, replies and mobile Linux support are all features many users have asked for.
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Zash
4y ago
Yes, small ones. http://www.snsn.se/map_right.html lists earthquakes in Sweden the last year.
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4y ago
DNSSEC-secured DNS with PowerDNS Federated XMPP chat with Prosody Email with Postfix and Dovecot Prometheus keeping track of it all and Grafana to draw some pretty graphs for how it's all going
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Zash
4y ago
Looks like it's based on the established and mature standard XMPP. Not disappointing to me.
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Zash
4y ago
I remember it the other way around, Google killed Talk and repeatedly replaced it with non-XMPP things while XMPP survived to this very day!
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Zash
4y ago
But, XMPP is push all by itself already, and works with mobile push notification services where needed.
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Zash
4y ago
The physical keyboard was certainly nice, especially for a linux sysadmin / programmer. I also miss the camera, the "normal" and familiar Linux environment, the unified messaging (native XMPP support, with A/V calling!).
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Zash
4y ago
It's XMPP that misses you ;)
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4y ago
> Matrix is the most popular open chat protocol [citation needed]
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Zash
4y ago
How can XMPP have failed when I and many others use it daily? When many things like Snikket and Zoom and WhatsApp are built on it?
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Zash
4y ago
Maybe the key is network effect and enough marketing to bootstrap it?
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Zash
5y ago
May I interest you in some Lua instead? https://doc.powerdns.com/authoritative/lua-records/index.htm... I run PowerDNS but haven't found a reason to play with this yet.
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Zash
5y ago
Looks a bit like the PowerDNS LUA records https://doc.powerdns.com/authoritative/lua-records/index.htm... but with JavaScript and shinier GUI?
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5y ago
See also: Article 42 (7) of the Treaty of the European Union
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What the EU mutual defence clause means (2016)
(europarl.europa.eu)
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5y ago
Also, as I understand it OTRv4 intentionally does not target multi-device scenarios so it seems unlikely to gain any wider adoption for the kind of use cases XMPP and Matrix target, where being able to see your chats on other devices is con
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5y ago
In the past, people have squeezed Prosody onto their routers with 32MB RAM and the like. Today you might struggle fitting the Modern XMPP experience into that, but 512M or 1GB should be plenty. As for storage, it really depends on how many
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5y ago
Try https://snikket.org/service/quickstart/ and see for yourself
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5y ago
WebSockets is just another transport method, by itself it is not going to be very different from plain old TCP/TLS sockets. Other things are going to matter more, like how 'chatty' the protocol is, especially while you are no
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5y ago
If you really can't stand the thought of installing a single statically compiled Go binary to use XMPP, many XMPP servers also have HTTP API interfaces like https://modules.prosody.im/mod_post_msg.html or https:/
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5y ago
Well, if it was _a_ client. But if 100% of clients make the same mistake, then it is the spec that is the problem, or so the argument went. Maybe one day xhtml-im will make a glorious return as a 2.0, with bigger, better and scarier warning
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5y ago
Do not mention the format war. Once upon a time, we had XHTML-IM https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0071.html But then web developers came along and just put this directly into the DOM of their web clients, leading to end
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