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Will my car still get broken into every few months? Will I still have to walk over needles and human waste on my walk home? Will toothpaste still be locked up?

• librish 4y ago
  This isn't an accurate description of most peoples' lives in San Fransisco.
  • twblalock 4y ago
    Maybe it's not accurate for someone who lives in Twin Peaks and never leaves their house, but anyone who goes to any part of the city that could be called "downtown" sees needles and human waste every single day, and is very likely to have their car broken into if they leave it overnight.
  • mgraczyk 4y ago
    I've lived in SF for over 6 years, in at least 10 different neighborhoods from fidi to Mission to lower pac heights. This is completely accurate in my experience.
    • Apocryphon 4y ago
      What about Richmond or Sunset?
      • maerF0x0 4y ago
        Those are two very cherry picked examples. And I agree I'd probably have a totally different view of SF if I had lived there instead. But you're also talking like 30+ minutes commute to an office near Market street/Civic Center/SOMa
        • Apocryphon 4y ago
          Fair, but people throughout the Bay Area- those living in South Bay for instance- deal with commutes of such lengths every day, if not longer. Plenty of people live in Oakland and the East Bay and commute to San Francisco. Richmond and Sunset seem to be a destination for the savvy who want S.F. amenities and manageable commutes at cheaper rents without living outside of the city. Not to even mention those who live in Portola, Excelsior, or even Daly City. Also, Portrero Hill and Dogpatch are just east of the Mission. Dogpatch is (was) on the up and up before the pandemic.
          • maerF0x0 4y ago
            For those taking ^^ advice, NB: but also to deal with not being protected from the crazy weather patterns by Twin Peaks. The weather west of twin peaks is quite a bit more chaotic (stronger wins, more fog) than elsewhere at least as I recall living in it.
        • MAGZine 4y ago
          like, half of the city is a 'cherry picked example'? what about the marina. or noe valley? or corona heights? i think tech people live/visit in soma/mission/market and then write off the entire city based on that--like the only place to live in 7th and minna and everything else isn't close enough to.... something....
          • maerF0x0 4y ago
            I guess I basically think of stuff west of van ness to be like the "suburbs" of San Francisco. It's not nearly the same density as the core. Sure it's much more dense than like the suburbs of Austin, but also far far less going on besides little pockets like Divis or Cow Hollow .
      • mkj28 4y ago
        This is very much accurate description of my part of Richmond (Geary@19th Avenue).
      • twblalock 4y ago
        Those are getting bad too, now.
    • reducesuffering 4y ago
      In 30 years of being around SF, this is really only accurate of Tenderloin, Civic Center, SOMA, Market and Mission St, roughly 10% of SF. Almost every time someone complains about SF, they're describing their experience in SOMA or near BART.
      • mgraczyk 4y ago
        I don't think so, and even if that were the case you've described the locations where a huge portion of SFs population lives. I currently live in Haight, it's nearly just as bad as those you listed. I'm on Divisidero right now, there is poo everywhere and I can see needles in some gutters nearby. The areas where there are only single family homes are fairly clean, but anywhere people actually go when they leave their homes is filthy.
      • verteu 4y ago
        Much more than 10% of SF by population -- those neighborhoods are where the most people live: https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/vtoqd7/oc_san_francisco_density_map/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/vtoqd7/oc_san...
      • inferiorhuman 4y ago
        In 30 years of being around SF, this is really only accurate of Tenderloin, Civic Center, SOMA, Market and Mission St, roughly 10% of SF Most of San Francisco has been pretty rough for most of its history. The Haight has struggled with being a destination for street kids for going on fifty years. Vis Valley? Probably the most infamous projects west of the Mississippi. Chinatown? That's pretty much always been tenement housing and the sort of grunge that you get with that many people essentially living on top of each other.
  • zht 4y ago
    Is there a map of which surviving Walgreens/CVS have locked up toothpaste?
    • twblalock 4y ago
      The scale of the problem is pretty bad when you have to specify "surviving" retail locations.
      • inferiorhuman 4y ago
        The scale of the problem is pretty bad when you have to resort to half truths. https://sfist.com/2023/01/05/walgreens-ceo-says-maybe-we-cried-too-much-about-shoplifting-stores-may-see-less-private-security/ https://sfist.com/2023/01/05/walgreens-ceo-says-maybe-we-cri...
  • maerF0x0 4y ago
    It was an accurate description of mine having lived at two places on market (and east of VanNess) over a 4yr period. You're right in that it's not "Most" in the sense that there's a lot more areas of SF, but if you work/life basically anywhere boxed in East of Van Ness, South of California St. , North of 16th street (Potrero Hill area) Then you're going to experience that daily. I'm a decent sized guy and I was physically assaulted twice in by homeless(mentally unstable) people. I had enough of it, and left California.
    • random314 4y ago
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      • maerF0x0 4y ago
        No. The generally shitty state of the state did. I was tired of lock downs when others were free. I was tired of paying ~10% more in taxes than else where (and they still have their claws in me thanks to equity) I was tired of being treated as an extremist when on the national scale I'm a moderate (and classically liberal relative to the national scale). I was tired of living in a place where even as a 97th percentile income earner I'd never find a 3 bedroom home ownership (I want kids) affordable without also having a 97th percentile earning spouse. And also tired of moving because my landlord wanted to play a game of "Your rent is going up 10%", "Oh you gave notice, just kidding only 5%"... when I could live blocks away for 5% less. It's exhausting to have to fight that fight ever 12 or so months, and just feel straight up used by people who are playing games hoping the grief of moving is enough they can extract more out of someone who is basically the perfect tenant. And don't give me "Rent control" BS, essentially every rent controlled unit I saw was falling apart, old (thin walls, no amenities etc), and generally terrible places to live. I was tired of being constantly treated unfairly or as less than due to my race, gender, and religious views. I was tired of Newsom and other elites hypocrisy, and the people who refused to call him out on it. I was also a bit tired of the hype culture, where the lowest mental state you could be is "Excited, and so happy", everyone is a "CEO/Founder", and if you're not going to Tahoe, then are you even alive? I want to live somewhere that I can be honest about how life is going and not be ostracized.
  • tbrock 4y ago
    It’s 100% accurate for me having lived and worked in 3 neighborhoods over 7 years.
  • bloodyplonker22 4y ago
    As an SF resident for over a decade, it is absolutely accurate. SF was not as much like this before, but over the past 15 years, it has become an absolute hive of scum and villainy. I am not joking about this at all, several times I have seen people get into physical altercations on the street with mentally deranged drug addicts. I've had my car broken into so many times that I've had to rent a garage space for $550/month. This used to be only characteristic of the Tenderloin and its surroundings, but it has spread far and wide. Well into SOMA, the mission district, and beyond.
    • jboy55 4y ago
      As a Bay Area resident for 2+ decades, SF was very much like this before the Twitter boom brought tech into SF. SOMA, Mission etc were never areas where you could, 'leave your car' and not expect it to be broken into. I read your garage space comment and laughed, in '99 my friends in SF faced the same issues. SOMA was mostly residential hotels before those were converted into nice apartments and the residents were kicked to the streets. Before the ballpark there was never really any reason for tech workers to go in there. Mission was quite dangerous to walk around after night before it was deemed hip and thus gentrified. The period around the 2010 era was the nicest SF has ever been since Mark Twain walked the sidewalks.
    • inferiorhuman 4y ago
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  • rsj_hn 4y ago
    This is only because most people in San Francisco don't own cars. For those that do, it's quite accurate.
  • joenot443 4y ago
    Do you actually live there? It seems as if a lot of people that do have a very different opinion from you, so I’m curious where yours comes from.