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Elon vs. Apple

7 points by crypot 4y ago

crypot 4y ago
Will Elon be able to break the app store?
- gerikson 4y ago
  I highly doubt it.
seydor 4y ago
Apple wouldn't want to remove twitter because then people will start using the web again (the web app is ~ identical). But probably nothing is happening here, just noise.
- adamwk 4y ago
  Would they really care though? Apple only makes money from in-app purchases and last I checked twitter doesn't make any money
- deleted 4y ago
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sylware 4y ago
Is Elon not a vanguard/blackrock man? Like apple/msft/google(via alphabet) are companies steered/managed by their ppl (and amazon once JB sells his shares)?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > Elon not a vanguard/blackrock man? What is this supposed to mean?
  - sylware 4y ago
    For instance he is "like" msft CEO, which is also starbucks CEO, both companies steered and managed by vanguard/blackrock ppl (that include very probably the CEO as biggest share holders weight a lot on CEO choice then on the whole hierachy of management). It is the same for "alphabet"(google)/apple and many other companies in big tech. There are the "same" networks of people.
    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > he is "like" msft CEO Twitter is privately held. Vanguard and BlackRock have nothing to do with it.
      - sylware 4y ago
        You missed the point: Elon Musk is spacex and telsa, if spacex and telsa "are" vanguard/blackrock, then Elon Musk is one of their CEOs, even though he bought twitter on its "own" "money".
        JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > Elon Musk is spacex and telsa, if spacex and telsa "are" vanguard/blackrock, then Elon Musk is one of their CEOs SpaceX is also privately held. Vanguard has nothing to do with it, neither do I think BlackRock. With Tesla, they are holders, but largely through index funds. And Elon has control. There is a public market index hypothesis, but it pointedly doesn’t apply to Elon or his companies.
        sylware 4y ago
        It can be privately held by vanguard/blackrock. The difference is only based on how the "shares" where bought/sold. The "usual" way is to buy shares available on public and formalized markets like stock exchanges. So what's you say about Tesla and Elon Musk is like Amazon and JB: they are share holders, but not big enough compared to Elon Musk in Tesla (did not check that) then they cannot setup their ppl on management like their CEOs. This is the same with amazon: JB is in control, but vanguard/blackrock are just behind (and azure), namely once JB sells enough of his shares, vanguard/blackrock get in control and then will setup their ppl as CEO and management (unless azure interfere). Like alphabet(google)/microsoft/apple/starbucks/etc.

Elon vs. Apple

7 points by crypot 4y ago

crypot 4y ago

Will Elon be able to break the app store?

gerikson 4y ago
I highly doubt it.

seydor 4y ago

Apple wouldn't want to remove twitter because then people will start using the web again (the web app is ~ identical). But probably nothing is happening here, just noise.

adamwk 4y ago
Would they really care though? Apple only makes money from in-app purchases and last I checked twitter doesn't make any money
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sylware 4y ago

Is Elon not a vanguard/blackrock man? Like apple/msft/google(via alphabet) are companies steered/managed by their ppl (and amazon once JB sells his shares)?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> Elon not a vanguard/blackrock man? What is this supposed to mean?
- sylware 4y ago
  For instance he is "like" msft CEO, which is also starbucks CEO, both companies steered and managed by vanguard/blackrock ppl (that include very probably the CEO as biggest share holders weight a lot on CEO choice then on the whole hierachy of management). It is the same for "alphabet"(google)/apple and many other companies in big tech. There are the "same" networks of people.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > he is "like" msft CEO Twitter is privately held. Vanguard and BlackRock have nothing to do with it.
    - sylware 4y ago
      You missed the point: Elon Musk is spacex and telsa, if spacex and telsa "are" vanguard/blackrock, then Elon Musk is one of their CEOs, even though he bought twitter on its "own" "money".
      - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        > Elon Musk is spacex and telsa, if spacex and telsa "are" vanguard/blackrock, then Elon Musk is one of their CEOs SpaceX is also privately held. Vanguard has nothing to do with it, neither do I think BlackRock. With Tesla, they are holders, but largely through index funds. And Elon has control. There is a public market index hypothesis, but it pointedly doesn’t apply to Elon or his companies.
        sylware 4y ago
        It can be privately held by vanguard/blackrock. The difference is only based on how the "shares" where bought/sold. The "usual" way is to buy shares available on public and formalized markets like stock exchanges. So what's you say about Tesla and Elon Musk is like Amazon and JB: they are share holders, but not big enough compared to Elon Musk in Tesla (did not check that) then they cannot setup their ppl on management like their CEOs. This is the same with amazon: JB is in control, but vanguard/blackrock are just behind (and azure), namely once JB sells enough of his shares, vanguard/blackrock get in control and then will setup their ppl as CEO and management (unless azure interfere). Like alphabet(google)/microsoft/apple/starbucks/etc.