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The only one of these that is a ‘bug’ is the failure to ring on android. The rest are all feature requests. That said, it’s interesting to see what people thi

by gort19 4y ago

The only one of these that is a ‘bug’ is the failure to ring on android. The rest are all feature requests. That said, it’s interesting to see what people think are basic requirement for a messaging app these days.

happymellon 4y ago
Taking poor pictures, if it is due to using the wrong API is also a bug.
thrtythreeforty 4y ago
If you want to be reductionist, everything is a feature. But if an app is missing something so basic as to impact usability, I might consider it a bug. It's a matter of opinion where the line is, of course. Uncontroversial example: a calculator app that doesn't have a divide key. Technically, yes, it's a separate feature from the multiply key, but it's so basic, so expected, that its absence is a bug. From the above list, I consider "No easy way to do and restore backups on Android and impossible to do backups on their PC client" a bug, or at least a frustrating omission by design.
baq 4y ago
The camera thing is definitely a bug, on iOS there are issues, too (eg doesn’t rotate pictures from landscape to portrait correctly).
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>The rest are all feature requests. More like missing basic features. I never said all are bugs, I said some are bugs and that all these things exist and work on the other alternatives like WhatsApp or Telegram
- gort19 4y ago
  Ok, but that means your criteria for a basic messenger app is something that does everything that all the other messaging apps do.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    No, that's not just my criteria, but Signal's own, when they entered the market as an alternatives to WhatsApp. If you climb in the ring with Ali, then you'd better be able to box. And it's also the criteria of millions of other users who have not switched to Signal because of the bugs, quirks, and lack of basic features for a modern messaging app. Just being able to send encrypted ASCII characters to someone is not enough to make a good messaging app these days.
    - gort19 4y ago
      No, they are your personal criteria. Your “gripes” as you said. > And it's also the criteria of millions of other users who have not switched to Signal because of the bugs, quirks, and lack of basic features for a modern messaging app. You have absolutely no knowledge that this is why people haven’t switched, indeed it’s highly unlikely that it would have been as successful as it has if this were the case. People move to Signal because they distrust Facebook and telegram. The more logical explanation is simply network effects and inertia. Occam’s razor.

by gort19 4y ago

happymellon 4y ago

Taking poor pictures, if it is due to using the wrong API is also a bug.

thrtythreeforty 4y ago

If you want to be reductionist, everything is a feature. But if an app is missing something so basic as to impact usability, I might consider it a bug. It's a matter of opinion where the line is, of course. Uncontroversial example: a calculator app that doesn't have a divide key. Technically, yes, it's a separate feature from the multiply key, but it's so basic, so expected, that its absence is a bug. From the above list, I consider "No easy way to do and restore backups on Android and impossible to do backups on their PC client" a bug, or at least a frustrating omission by design.

baq 4y ago

The camera thing is definitely a bug, on iOS there are issues, too (eg doesn’t rotate pictures from landscape to portrait correctly).

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>The rest are all feature requests. More like missing basic features. I never said all are bugs, I said some are bugs and that all these things exist and work on the other alternatives like WhatsApp or Telegram

gort19 4y ago
Ok, but that means your criteria for a basic messenger app is something that does everything that all the other messaging apps do.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  No, that's not just my criteria, but Signal's own, when they entered the market as an alternatives to WhatsApp. If you climb in the ring with Ali, then you'd better be able to box. And it's also the criteria of millions of other users who have not switched to Signal because of the bugs, quirks, and lack of basic features for a modern messaging app. Just being able to send encrypted ASCII characters to someone is not enough to make a good messaging app these days.
  - gort19 4y ago
    No, they are your personal criteria. Your “gripes” as you said. > And it's also the criteria of millions of other users who have not switched to Signal because of the bugs, quirks, and lack of basic features for a modern messaging app. You have absolutely no knowledge that this is why people haven’t switched, indeed it’s highly unlikely that it would have been as successful as it has if this were the case. People move to Signal because they distrust Facebook and telegram. The more logical explanation is simply network effects and inertia. Occam’s razor.